Bohras fall at the feet of Narendra Modi too

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Re: Bohras fall at the feet of Narendra Modi too

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Unread post by SBM » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:25 am

Br Zinger and Sr Fatems
The American Muslims have more serious problem from their own like ISIL and others and Modi has become less of the problem
The Modi factor does not affect American Muslims as much and American Muslims are more realistic then they get credit.
The question Br Zinger you should be asking what happend to Indian Muslims specially Dawoodi Bohras who fell at the feet of Narenda Modi when American Muslims and American Govt denied the visa to Modi. The reality on the ground is THAT IT WAS INDIAN MUSLIM LEADER WHO FELICITATED NARENDRA MODI
Donot accuse American Muslims and America for the selfish attitude of Indian Muslim leadership specially Dawoodi Bohra community who bent backward to have Modi his way :cry:

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Re: Bohras fall at the feet of Narendra Modi too

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Unread post by humanbeing » Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:59 am

Modi’s visit to USA is imperative as head of state. Moreover he enters USA with pride and state guest honor. It is an embarrassment to US government more than to NaMo.

USA’s opinion is not a benchmark to distinguish rights and wrongs. NaMo’s selection as leader of India reflects the opinion and nature of Indian citizens or rather lack of options to choose from. US govt banned him in the past upon his involvement with riots, where now he represents India. And on a larger economic scale, India-US relations are more important to US then justice. Morever the request for travel ban comes within US from other agencies, rather than US govt Intelligence declaring NaMo as terrorist and ban him for travel to US.

However the PMs position does not dissolves black spot on NaMo’s character. He gives a dam what US, India or world thinks of him. The only hope, if he really repents his deeds seeks forgiveness by developing the nation taking along everyone to path of prosperity and does not polarize / tear apart India’s secular fabric any further.

Bohra Dai’s affinity towards him is objectionable ! Flattering NaMo can be a cowardly smart political move in the duniya. however it is a concluded point, why they are so affectionate towards this tyrant. Why bother discussing threadbare. Kothari royals are least interested in deeni obligations !

I would only support his intent to salvage the broken trust and divided indian society. There is no surprise that murderers and conspirators are head of states in the unjust world we live in.

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Re: Bohras fall at the feet of Narendra Modi too

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:13 am

zinger wrote: My question was to SBM bhai and CAIR, since i believe, he mentioned once that they (him including) will resist him at every step of the way and ensure that he does not step foot on US soil. i would like to ask him what they did to prevent it
what zinger does not understand that once elected as a PM, the US govt is bound by diplomatic protocols to invite him and allow to step onto their soil. whether CAIR or other muslim organisations want him there or not does not matter anymore.

besides modi did not rush to visit US as a trip in itself, he went there to address the UN general assembly, like the heads of state from over 200 countries. modi is a shrewd operator. he waited for this opportunity to make his entry and drum up the support of the indian community, of which the gujus are the most sizeable and wealthiest lot.

zinger, it almost seems that you are trying to defend your ex-syedna's love for modi and in reflection attempting to prove that look, even the muslims of US could not do a damn about preventing modi from coming to a triumphant welcome there.


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Unread post by JC » Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:41 am

And this shows US government at its best, they can say we not only 'claim' but truly believe in democracy ........... irrespective who is 'elected' we will work with 'elected representatives'. Secondly US has to do business with India, how will they do so if they refuse to engage elected PM of that country?

Abde population is so happy and every abde tells another that look with Maula's Dua Modi became PM of India ........... and hence now whatever success and achievements Modi gets, the credit will go to Late Mr. Burhanuddin ............

Advice to Kothar - how about Living Maula gives asheerbad to Imran Khan...??!! He is PM-in-waiting of Pakistan ............. then like the 'Ikhlas' of mumineen of India, Pakistan Muffat-Dal can 'claim' .... look at the leaders of India and Pakistan, Bawajee Sahib Modi Nay Laya, Main Imran Nay Layoo ............ :o

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Re: Bohras fall at the feet of Narendra Modi too

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Sep 30, 2014 5:01 pm

Congressmen urge Obama to discuss religious tolerance with Modi

Eleven members of the U.S. Congress have urged President Barack Obama to inject a discussion about religious tolerance and the protection of minorities into his bilateral summit with visiting Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi on Monday and Tuesday.

In a formal letter to the President, the bipartisan Congressional group said, “Your meeting with [Mr.] Modi… provides an opportunity to discuss religious inclusion and the protection of religious minorities in India,” adding that the Indian Prime Minister’s visit could open a dialogue about the “positive steps his government can take in preventing oppression and encouraging religious inclusion.”

A twelfth lawmaker, Mike Honda from California, wrote an individual letter to Mr. Obama along similar lines, urging him to reinforce human rights and religious freedoms through increased attention and dialogue, but also underscoring that the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom’s 2014 Annual Report noted that “in the past year, reports of incidents of communal and religiously-motivated violence in India increased.”

The Congressmen, who signed the letter, including Keith Ellison, Joseph Pitts, John Conyers, Raul Grijalva, Barbara Lee, Betty McCollum, Jim Sensenbrenner, Jared Polis, Trent Franks, James McGovern and Rush Holt, also alluded to “an increase in violence against Muslims and Christians in the first hundred days of Prime Minister Modi’s term,” adding that this “echoes the deadly 2002 riots in Gujarat, which happened while Prime Minister Modi was Chief Minister of the region.”

They said that Mr. Modi had made positive remarks after winning the general election earlier this year, when he suggested that his government’s only religion would be “India first.”

While this statement was promising, the members of Congress said, “Given the reported increase in violence against Christians and Muslims, the reality on the ground in India’s communities indicates that this promise must be followed by action.”

Highlighting Mahatma Gandhi’s non-violent approach to civil disobedience as an example of our shared belief in democratic values between India and the U.S., the members of Congress said that such values included, foremost, the tolerance of minority groups.

“Prime Minister Modi can play a constructive role by criticising extremists and opening a dialogue in the country about violence aimed at religious minorities,” in this regard, they noted.

Coalition Against Genocide, an alliance of human rights groups campaigning for justice and accountability for the Gujarat pogrom of 2002 said that it welcomed the lawmakers’ letter to Mr. Obama.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/internatio ... epage=true

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Re: Bohras fall at the feet of Narendra Modi too

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Sep 30, 2014 5:25 pm

Narendra Modi's arrival on stage was pure political theatre. He walked up and into a ring of US Congressmen and senators who had been introduced and invited to stand in place a few minutes before. He was totally 'ring-fenced' — to borrow from Syed Akbaruddin, the ministry of external affairs spokesperson — from court summons and other legal orders.

Even though orchestrated, the political managers may have been trying to do a Bill Clinton: recreating the enthusiasm of Indian parliamentarians falling over each other to shake his hand when Clinton visited India as president.

Clever it was, and avenging it must have been for Modi to have 'America's Most Elected' stand all around him by choice. The visa wound is, hopefully, healed after this. Of course, US politicians know this was not a rally to be missed for love or money, especially the NRI money. Campaign funds should register a mild spike after this.

Oh, the final zinger: you revoked my visa but I will give you visa on arrival.

He was giving the crowd just what they wanted: high rhetoric, higher promises and a call to take care of 'Mother India'. In one speech, he firmed up the support of the already adoring BJP masses that live in this land of plenty. But some of their plenty is being recalled as 'debt' to service the country. Will they come sprinting back to invest their hardearned dollars currently making more money in money-market accounts?

Well, we shall see.

The audience was largely of the already converted. It was essentially a BJP rally, not an Indian American rally. Reported attempts to roll in all kinds of Indian Americans, and not just the temple associations and determined BJP-lovers, seemed weak.

The Sangh Parivar remains an undivided Hindu family.

But a Muslim supporter of Modi from Gujarat, Zafar Sareshwala, told me that hundreds of Indian American Muslims had attended, including nearly 50 from the Bohra community.

There is no way to verify the figure.

Sareshwala said he went to mosques in various parts of America to ask diaspora Muslims to attend the rally.

Reportedly, Sareshwala's active participation was resented by the New Jersey crowd, the base of Modi's Fortress America. And this non-inclusiveness remains a problem both at home and abroad.


Read more at:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/art ... aign=cppst

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Sep 30, 2014 5:36 pm

DONT MISS THIS !!

DO WATCH !!


Photos: The protests outside that Narendra Modi and Madison Square Garden won’t see

Not everyone is cheering on Indian prime minister Narendra Modi as he gives a speech at a sold-out Madison Square Garden in New York City today.

http://qz.com/272479/photos-the-protest ... -wont-see/

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Sep 30, 2014 6:15 pm

asad wrote:The gift of Visa free travel to PIO's is meant mainly for the large Hindu gujarati supporters of BJP. these are the people who have supported BJP and its sister concerns all their life so its just a small token of Thank you from the PM.
I had posted the below mentioned article on another thread but as the same is relevant to the current discussion I am reposting it again :-

RSS – Funds of Hate

Official RSS site claims that “The Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (Sangh or RSS as it is popularly known) was founded in 1925 by Dr. Keshava Baliram Hedgewar on Vijaydashami day. Its influence is growing ever since it was established in 1925, before India got its independence. It is one of the biggest voluntary organizations of the world having over 50 lakhs Swayamsevaks. It is engaged in uniting Hindus and thereby is aimed at taking India to its pinnacle of glory.

To propagate its own brand of Hindutva ideology the AFFILIATES of the Rashtriya Swayamsewak Sangh have been receiving millions of dollars from corporates in the United States and it has been exposed by the ‘Campaign to Stop Funding Hate’ (SFH), a group of professionals, students, workers, artists and intellectuals. They have identified that the India Development and Relief Fund (IDRF), a Maryland-based charity organisation established in 1989, has been a the key fund-raiser for the PARIVAR in the U.S. SFH says that the IDRF, which was set up to provide funds for `relief and development work’, has been funding RSS-initiated projects all over India. In 2000, around $1.7 million was channeled to Sangh Parivar organisations such as the Vanvasi Kalyan Ashram (VKA), which has been linked with anti-minority violence. Between 1994 and 2000, the IDRF disbursed close to $4 million to Sangh Parivar organisations all over India.

Some other long-term recipients of IDRF funds include the Vikas Bharti (Bihar), the Swami Vivekananda Rural Development Society (Tamil Nadu), the Sewa Bharati (New Delhi), the Jana Seva Vidya Kendra (Karnataka), the Girivasi Vanvasi Sewa Prakalp (Uttar Pradesh) and the G. Deshpande Vanvasi Vastigrah (Maharashtra). While organisations like the Sewa Bharati are openly identified with the RSS, others like the Swami Vivekananda Rural Development Society profess to work for the development of tribal people, though in reality they lay stress on teaching the tribal people the `Hindu way of life’. Collectively, these organizations have been supported by the IDRF since its establishment.

The SFH launched a `Project Saffron Dollar’ to check the activities of the IDRF. The group released a 91-page report titled “A Foreign Exchange of Hate: IDRF and the American Funding of Hate” in New Delhi. The report reveals how the IDRF obtained considerable amounts from leading U.S. technology companies such as Cisco, Sun Microsystems, AOL-Time Warner and Hewlett Packard and distributed it among RSS affiliates. While 83 per cent of the funds went to the RSS, the (VHP) and other Sangh Parivar organizations, only 2 per cent went to secular organizations.

When collecting money, the IDRF professes that it is doing so to `fund relief and development work’. Actually, the funds are distributed among RSS organizations dealing with re-conversion programmes. For example, the IDRF’s website claims that it is a charity organization that has helped the victims of the Gujarat earthquake of 2001. However, the fact remains that it used the funds to help only Hindu victims. The anti-minority stand of the IDRF is not new. In the past, IDRF in supporting organisations like the Sewa Bharati and the VKA, which is accused of using violence against Christians in Madhya Pradesh in 1998.

Biju Mathew, Professor of Information Systems at Rider University, said: “We are now disseminating the results of our investigations amongst the NRIs and U.S. corporations. Our report clearly establishes the link between the IDRF and the RSS.”

How does the IDRF operate in the U.S.? The most active fund-raisers of the IDRF are the Indian migrants to the U.S., especially professionals working in the software sector. Such IDRF sympathisers encourage their companies to put the IDRF on the corporation’s list of grantees. The swayamsewaks working in U.S. corporations project the IDRF as the `best’ and the `only’ way to provide funds for `development and relief’ work in India.

http://indiaopines.com/rss-funds-of-hate/

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Unread post by zinger » Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:56 pm

SBM wrote:Br Zinger and Sr Fatems
The American Muslims have more serious problem from their own like ISIL and others and Modi has become less of the problem
The Modi factor does not affect American Muslims as much and American Muslims are more realistic then they get credit.
The question Br Zinger you should be asking what happend to Indian Muslims specially Dawoodi Bohras who fell at the feet of Narenda Modi when American Muslims and American Govt denied the visa to Modi. The reality on the ground is THAT IT WAS INDIAN MUSLIM LEADER WHO FELICITATED NARENDRA MODI
Donot accuse American Muslims and America for the selfish attitude of Indian Muslim leadership specially Dawoodi Bohra community who bent backward to have Modi his way :cry:
Like i said earlier, im not gloating, but just wanted to highlight in bold, the very fact that it was the Dawoodi Bohra community that he mentioned and lauded out of the thousands that were there. Is this something we should be proud of. IMHO, no, not that Modi singled us out for praise, but what we need to be proud of atleast is that we got global recognition. "it was just 15 seconds of fame" you might say, "Modi doesnt know shit about the reality of Qardan HAssanant" you might say, but tell me, who else was mentioned in his speech? i dont accuse American Muslims for their selfish attitudes, they have enough problems of their own within the country, i admit it, but im just sensing a lack of conviction in their stand here now, sorry to say.

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Unread post by zinger » Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:04 am

humanbeing wrote:Modi’s visit to USA is imperative as head of state. Moreover he enters USA with pride and state guest honor. It is an embarrassment to US government more than to NaMo.
will disagree here. Americans dont give a damn. it was an embaressment to all those naysayers who say Modi will never go anywhere
humanbeing wrote: USA’s opinion is not a benchmark to distinguish rights and wrongs. NaMo’s selection as leader of India reflects the opinion and nature of Indian citizens or rather lack of options to choose from. US govt banned him in the past upon his involvement with riots, where now he represents India. And on a larger economic scale, India-US relations are more important to US then justice. Morever the request for travel ban comes within US from other agencies, rather than US govt Intelligence declaring NaMo as terrorist and ban him for travel to US.
wrong again, you dont live in india, and whoever you have in india is a miniscule representative of what you think, Modi was not chosen for lack of a better alternative. he was chosen as a primary choice. Muslims in Gujarat and all over the country (with the exception of Kerala) voted for him. MUSLIMS mind you, not people all over the country but MUSLIMS all over the country. Why? Because they believe that he will bring positive change. The US government or agencies did not ban him, it was lobbyists working on behalf of Muslim groups who got him banned. there is a difference.
humanbeing wrote:However the PMs position does not dissolves black spot on NaMo’s character. He gives a dam what US, India or world thinks of him. The only hope, if he really repents his deeds seeks forgiveness by developing the nation taking along everyone to path of prosperity and does not polarize / tear apart India’s secular fabric any further.
Agreed, but are you gonna wave black flags at him wherever he goes or are you going to put this behind you and move on???

While Muslims all over the world blamed Modi for the carnage, did anyone wonder why the Godhra riots started? who burnt the train full of Kar Sevaks? Its controversial i agree, but there can be no smoke without fire

Bohra Dai’s affinity towards him is objectionable ! Flattering NaMo can be a cowardly smart political move in the duniya. however it is a concluded point, why they are so affectionate towards this tyrant. Why bother discussing threadbare. Kothari royals are least interested in deeni obligations !

I would only support his intent to salvage the broken trust and divided indian society. There is no surprise that murderers and conspirators are head of states in the unjust world we live in.

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Re: Bohras fall at the feet of Narendra Modi too

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Unread post by tasneempati » Wed Oct 01, 2014 6:44 am

zinger wrote:
humanbeing wrote:Modi’s visit to USA is imperative as head of state. Moreover he enters USA with pride and state guest honor. It is an embarrassment to US government more than to NaMo.
will disagree here. Americans dont give a damn. it was an embaressment to all those naysayers who say Modi will never go anywhere
humanbeing wrote: USA’s opinion is not a benchmark to distinguish rights and wrongs. NaMo’s selection as leader of India reflects the opinion and nature of Indian citizens or rather lack of options to choose from. US govt banned him in the past upon his involvement with riots, where now he represents India. And on a larger economic scale, India-US relations are more important to US then justice. Morever the request for travel ban comes within US from other agencies, rather than US govt Intelligence declaring NaMo as terrorist and ban him for travel to US.
wrong again, you dont live in india, and whoever you have in india is a miniscule representative of what you think, Modi was not chosen for lack of a better alternative. he was chosen as a primary choice. Muslims in Gujarat and all over the country (with the exception of Kerala) voted for him. MUSLIMS mind you, not people all over the country but MUSLIMS all over the country. Why? Because they believe that he will bring positive change. The US government or agencies did not ban him, it was lobbyists working on behalf of Muslim groups who got him banned. there is a difference.
humanbeing wrote:However the PMs position does not dissolves black spot on NaMo’s character. He gives a dam what US, India or world thinks of him. The only hope, if he really repents his deeds seeks forgiveness by developing the nation taking along everyone to path of prosperity and does not polarize / tear apart India’s secular fabric any further.
Agreed, but are you gonna wave black flags at him wherever he goes or are you going to put this behind you and move on???

While Muslims all over the world blamed Modi for the carnage, did anyone wonder why the Godhra riots started? who burnt the train full of Kar Sevaks? Its controversial i agree, but there can be no smoke without fire

Bohra Dai’s affinity towards him is objectionable ! Flattering NaMo can be a cowardly smart political move in the duniya. however it is a concluded point, why they are so affectionate towards this tyrant. Why bother discussing threadbare. Kothari royals are least interested in deeni obligations !

I would only support his intent to salvage the broken trust and divided indian society. There is no surprise that murderers and conspirators are head of states in the unjust world we live in.
Zinger I disagree with you. In your opinion when Muslims voted for Modi was correct whereas Bohra Dai's affinity towards is objectionale ?
My friend Bohra's Dai took more practicle & far sighted decision in making friendship with MODI whereas Muslims vote was out of fear.

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Re: Bohras fall at the feet of Narendra Modi too

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Unread post by zinger » Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:00 am

tasneempati wrote:
zinger wrote: will disagree here. Americans dont give a damn. it was an embaressment to all those naysayers who say Modi will never go anywhere
wrong again, you dont live in india, and whoever you have in india is a miniscule representative of what you think, Modi was not chosen for lack of a better alternative. he was chosen as a primary choice. Muslims in Gujarat and all over the country (with the exception of Kerala) voted for him. MUSLIMS mind you, not people all over the country but MUSLIMS all over the country. Why? Because they believe that he will bring positive change. The US government or agencies did not ban him, it was lobbyists working on behalf of Muslim groups who got him banned. there is a difference.
Agreed, but are you gonna wave black flags at him wherever he goes or are you going to put this behind you and move on???

While Muslims all over the world blamed Modi for the carnage, did anyone wonder why the Godhra riots started? who burnt the train full of Kar Sevaks? Its controversial i agree, but there can be no smoke without fire

Bohra Dai’s affinity towards him is objectionable ! Flattering NaMo can be a cowardly smart political move in the duniya. however it is a concluded point, why they are so affectionate towards this tyrant. Why bother discussing threadbare. Kothari royals are least interested in deeni obligations !

I would only support his intent to salvage the broken trust and divided indian society. There is no surprise that murderers and conspirators are head of states in the unjust world we live in.
Zinger I disagree with you. In your opinion when Muslims voted for Modi was correct whereas Bohra Dai's affinity towards is objectionale ?
My friend Bohra's Dai took more practicle & far sighted decision in making friendship with MODI whereas Muslims vote was out of fear.

brother, why the Dai chose to felicitate Modi is a discussion that has been oft-repeated here. i stood by it then and i stand by it now. its a shrewd move to protect not just his interests but those of the community. the reformists and anti-Bohras here will say that it is only the former and not the latter, but thats cause grapes are sour.

and yes, i agree we made a smart move in courting him, again something that does not go down easily the throats of many here, not forgetting that they too will benefit from it somehow, some time in the future but muslims across the country made a conscious decision to vote for modi. i employ 3 Sunni Muslims and they and their friends have voted for Modi of their own free will.

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Re: Bohras fall at the feet of Narendra Modi too

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Unread post by humanbeing » Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:44 am

Bohra's Dai took more practicle & far sighted decision in making friendship with MODI whereas Muslims vote was out of fear.
So much for the sake of practicality and far sightedness. Very well !! then these DAIs should stop calling themselves followers of Imam Hussein, Qutbuddin Shahid, Fakhruddin Shahid. If one to perceive that Muslims voted for NaMo out of fear, is acceptable atleast to extent that they deem his deeds and character as wrong. Rather then sell their souls to devil for practicality and far sightedness.

Why are abdes then beating their chest (maatam) for Imam Hussein, what values do they follow ?? what practicality and far sightedness we are talking here !

I am not suggesting a rebellion or hate campaign against NaMo, but atleast not the shameless flattery of his persona. Take a stand of dignified neutrality.

Those abdes and bohras who have not lost loved ones, will never understand the pain of those who suffered in those riots. For them, its easy to preach forgiveness and move on to enjoy the NaMo’s fancy campaigns and gloat in the pride of political mastery of Kothari thugs. Assuming they are going to benefit under NaMo’s thanda sayaa !

Wait and watch these practicality and far sightedness of these kothar thugs will tighten the noose around abdes more and more. The coercion and intimidation will become official. Before there was an outlet for people to seek justice, now abdes and bohras will be screwed, pushed, shoved, bent and kicked from within and outside the community.

Now there will be official warning letters sent to sabeel/wajibaat defaulters, threats will become official of consequences that a bohra will face on non payment of their taxes. Accounts are vulgarly misrepresented and a bohra cannot do a bit about it. Properties made from community’s money are bluntly transferred to private ownership and dumm abdes will know nothing about it. Wajibaat money will be spent more and more in filling NaMo’s coffers, for the far-sightedness and practicality of community’s well being under the thanda saya of NaMo.

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Re: Bohras fall at the feet of Narendra Modi too

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Oct 01, 2014 5:47 pm

The images of genocide of Muslims in Gujarat 2002: these will keep haunting Modi wherever he will go

http://muslimmirror.com/eng/can-we-forg ... arat-2002/

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Re: Bohras fall at the feet of Narendra Modi too

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Oct 01, 2014 5:59 pm

Khakhi terror in Baroda, uneasy calm prevails, over 200 arrested

“We saw the infamous 2002 riots in Vadodara, on the same pattern Muslims are being attacked by Hindus with the help of police said Abumiya in wadi area with tears in his eyes. This 72 year old man with stick claimed that this riot is actually planned well before and Muslims are facing the brunt of violence and police terror in walled city of Vadodara.

Today an uneasy calm prevails in the city though police keeps strict vigil but anything happens during late night, according to some effected people. Baroda police has arrested over 200 people after two men were stabbed during violence between Hindus and Muslims that left more than a dozen injured and was triggered by an image posted on Facebook, officials said on Monday. The violence in Gujarat coincides with a visit to the US by Prime Minister Narendra Modi, who is set to meet President Barack Obama later on Monday on a trip emphasizing India’s economic potential.

Baroda police has shown khaki terror last night. After a day long violence when people were sleeping in their homes suddenly police with some people, probably Hindus attacked them in Wadi and Taiwadi areas and broke many two wheelers, Autos, and atleast three cars . All of them belonged to people of Muslim community. Police also rammed into the house of Ayeshabibi and used very abusive and harsh language. The men in Khakhi took Abdul Rehman with them and arrested without any valid reasons.

Another old age lady Saidabibi told that police ransacked her fridge and looted Rs. 2000. She claimed that some people were with police. These people may be from Hindu saffron groups. The homes of Ismail Malek,, Ismail Lambawala, Samimbanu Mastan, Ismail fruitwala were attacked by police

Vadodara based well known activist and former professor of M.S. university DR. J.S. Bandukwala said that Gujarat is in the control of hardline RSS/VHP/Bajrang Dal fanatics. Modi used them to gain the Power. Now these saffron outfits are beyond his control. A complication factor is Modi’s inability to fulfill his lavish promise of development. The easy way is to encourage Muslim hatred .

All India Milli Council , Gujarat based vice President Munir Kheruwala and some other prominent people of city met the police commissioner and requested him to bring situation under control. JUH has also given memorandum to authorities and described police inaction to curb the violence.

Baroda based social activist and educationist Zuber Goplalani clearly told this correspondent on phone that the police acted in partisan and bias manner against Muslims in walled city. 90 percent people are enjoying Garba. no tension for them but for Muslim population there is fear and harassment from police. Why so? This is totally against civilised society ethoes and this is not the culture of Gujarat and India. In 2002 Hindus attacked Muslims with the help of police in the same way this time we experienced, he alleged.

For almost a decade Modi was unwelcome in the US after Washington revoked his visa in 2005 over accusations of religious intolerance stemming from riots three years earlier in Gujarat, when he was the state’s chief minister. Gujarat’s government deployed riot police to control the clashes in Vadodara over the weekend and appealed to religious leaders to intervene to curb them.

Mobile telephone Internet and bulk text messaging has been suspended for four days as a precautionary step. “We arrested 140 people on Sunday evening after two men were stabbed,” the city’s police commissioner, E. Radhakrishnan, said. “The injured are under medical observation and those who have been arrested are being interrogated.” Trouble was sparked by an image widely distributed on social media website Facebook that some Muslims considered offensive to Islam, said a senior administration official in the city. India has a dark history of religious violence, especially between the Hindu majority and Muslims, who account for more than 150 million people, making India the world’s third most populous Muslim nation.

Modi contested the 2014 general election from Vadodara but gave up the seat in favour of Varanasi, the Hindu holy city in north India, from which he had also contested. At least 1,000 people, mostly Muslims, died during a month of rioting in Gujarat in 2002. Critics say Modi did not do enough to stop the violence. Courts have found insufficient evidence to back that up. A US non-profit organisation filed a civil lawsuit on Thursday, timed to embarrass Modi during his trip to New York and Washington and seeking compensatory and punitive damages for alleged crimes against humanity over the 2002 riots.

Modi’s early training was in a movement that sees Indian culture as being primarily Hindu. Emboldened by his emphatic election victory in May, Hindu hardliners have been agitating across much of India against religious minorities. The latest violence has marred celebrations of the Navratri festival that involves men and women in prayer, music and dance. It follows a campaign by radical Hindu groups to bar Muslims and other religious minorities from taking part in the traditionally tolerant festivities. “The idea of banning Muslims from Hindu festivals has upset the minority but we are determined to keep the celebrations open to all,” Radhakrishnan said, adding that tension had begun to ebb. Police in Vadodara this month arrested a Muslim cleric who had labelled Navratri a “festival of demons”.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Oct 01, 2014 6:32 pm

India is for Sale – Mr. Modi

Mr. Modi tried his level best to Mortgage as much rights of the people of India as he can before US Government and Corporations who in real sense rule the world.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Oct 01, 2014 6:52 pm

BOHRAS AT MADISON SQUARE FOR MODI'S SPEECH.

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Unread post by tasneempati » Thu Oct 02, 2014 4:08 am

Chaiwala to P.M. to Jhaduwala...... May be he can provide quality services to U.S.A.
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Unread post by chocoman » Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:35 am

It is one of the signs of Qayamat, when evil people will be elected as leaders.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:18 pm

Dear friends,
During the last week of September 2014, while Prime Minister Modi was visiting USA, Vadodara a city of Gujarat engulfed in riots, beating, killing and burning. I have received private video of the incident when the Police whose job is to prevent rioting, looting, and destruction of properties, are seen destroying minority community Muslim’s property, in a vengeful way.

Riot started when an insurance agent, Sunil Rahulji, superimposed pictures of Hindu deities: Durga Mata on Kaaba & Hindu God Ganapati on Maqam-e-Ibrahim. He then published it on Facebook. This disturbed Muslims.

A Muslim crowd of 100s went to Rahulji’s house where shouting and clashing occurred. Later on, a busload of about 55 BJP supporters armed with pipes went to Muslim neighborhood of Taiwada, and Panjripol Mohalla. They broke doors of Muslim residents and beat them severely. Police arrested and charged young Muslims men with non bailable penal codes. Police made them sign Kabool Nama statements. However, police refused to write FIR against Hindu rioters and hooligans. In Baroda/Vadodara, Yakutpur Police destroyed Muslim Rickshaw beat and arrested many Muslims

Please click the following link and watch how police are breaking windshields of Muslim rickshaws. Damaged to rickshaws may make their owners/drivers beggars and may make them take path of crime for feeding their families.

2.31-minute video: police is seen destroying minority community’s vehicles. Look at police vengeance. http://youtu.be/67zl1PmA-Ug

View 48-second video from World News Times Report. pl. click https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjlUOBKxOgw

One moron’s mean act took away lives and

In USA, ZEE News didn’t mention anything about Baroda riots.

If India wants to progress, maliciously hurting emotions should be dealt firmly. Police destroying propertied should be given life term jail. There are many from BJP, VHP, ShivSena, Bajrang Dal, and some Muslim outfits who are bent upon creating chaos. Indians should defeat them by practicing justice and tolerance. Generally, in such riots, Muslims are presumed to be guilty and are thrown in jail, while Hindu perpetrators remain Scot-free. Akbar Allahabadi
(born 1846) has said,

Salam
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Unread post by anajmi » Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:22 pm

A Muslim crowd of 100s went to Rahulji’s house where shouting and clashing occurred.
I consider these people to be the bigger morons. The bjp goondas want the muslims to react this way. And the muslim morons, they always oblige. When you go to a zoo, you throw a banana to a monkey expecting him to react in a particular way. That is the condition of these muslims. They are monkeys that are expected to react this way with these actions so that they can be hammered and thrown into jail. My advise to these morons is to stop reacting. Once you stop reacting to these bananas, people will stop throwing them at you.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:31 pm

Guess who's missing from the American newspapers?

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Oct 05, 2014 5:18 pm

Two Uttar Pradesh cops who filed charge sheet against Amit Shah transferred

MUZAFFARNAGAR: Two policemen who were involved in preparation of the chargesheet against BJP president Amit Shah for alleged hate speech, which was rejected by a local court, have been transferred.

Deputy superintendent of police (New Mandi Circle) Yogender Singh and investigation officer of the case sub-inspector Bharat Lal were shifted yesterday.

Deputy SP Yogender Singh has been shifted to police lines from the circle of New Mandi, while sub-inspector Bharat Lal has been shifted to Bhorakala Police Station from the New Mandi Police Station, he said.

SI Bharat Lal had investigated the case while deputy SP Yogender Singh had filed the chagesheet in the court.

Shah was charge sheeted by the police on September 10 for his alleged hate speech during campaigning here for the Lok Sabha elections.

The court of Additional Chief Judicial Magistrate Sunder Lal on September 11 refused to take cognizsance of the chargesheet against BJP president Amit Shah in connection with the alleged hate speech made by him and returned it to the police.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Oct 05, 2014 6:48 pm

MODI'S VISIT TO USA AND ITS GRAVE REPURCUSSIONS !!

MUST WATCH !!


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Unread post by zinger » Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:21 am

This site still allows Modi to happily advertise here. Should the topic now become "REFORMIST BOHRAS FALL AT THE FEET OF NARENDRA MODI TOO"????
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Unread post by zinger » Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:38 am

ghulam muhammed wrote: Please click the following link and watch how police are breaking windshields of Muslim rickshaws. Damaged to rickshaws may make their owners/drivers beggars and may make them take path of crime for feeding their families.

2.31-minute video: police is seen destroying minority community’s vehicles. Look at police vengeance. http://youtu.be/67zl1PmA-Ug
GM bhai, this video is a fake. Let me tell you why
1. i got the same video some time in september, on FB about police going on a rampage in Vasai or Virar.
2. How can your famous Mr. Asghar Vanaswala know for a fact that this a minority community's vehicle? He is famous for spreading stories. Please verify facts for yourself, because he does not have ethics to do so himself.
Let me remind you of the one video he had put up of an old man dancing to a marasiya, and someone had informed him that it was a reformist bohra from udaipur and gave the name of that old man too. after this, he removed the video
3. Rickshaws in Gujarat are green. this one is yellow
4. Look at the number plate carefully, you can JUST ABOUT make out MH, not GJ (i could be wrong on this, i cannot read it correctly to be sure myself)

ghulam muhammed wrote:View 48-second video from World News Times Report. pl. click https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjlUOBKxOgw
hope you have seen it too. it sounds like someone has spliced the audio together. so the news announcer is saying something else and this person has picked up words and stitched them together to make it sound like she is saying something

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Unread post by zinger » Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:38 am

deleted. same post was posted again

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Unread post by zinger » Tue Oct 07, 2014 6:53 am

humanbeing wrote: So much for the sake of practicality and far sightedness. Very well !! then these DAIs should stop calling themselves followers of Imam Hussein, Qutbuddin Shahid, Fakhruddin Shahid. If one to perceive that Muslims voted for NaMo out of fear, is acceptable atleast to extent that they deem his deeds and character as wrong. Rather then sell their souls to devil for practicality and far sightedness.
Why have you singled out just these 3 names??? Islam is abundant with instances where people have made a pact with enemies just for the sake of peace
humanbeing wrote: Why are abdes then beating their chest (maatam) for Imam Hussein, what values do they follow ?? what practicality and far sightedness we are talking here !
You are mixing up 2 issues. Gham-E-Hussain is one, practicality and far-sightedness is another
humanbeing wrote: I am not suggesting a rebellion or hate campaign against NaMo, but atleast not the shameless flattery of his persona. Take a stand of dignified neutrality.
Sometimes, you have to sleep with the enemy. also, tell that to the other Muslims who line up to kiss him. they are leaders of their community in their own rights
humanbeing wrote: Those abdes and bohras who have not lost loved ones, will never understand the pain of those who suffered in those riots. For them, its easy to preach forgiveness and move on to enjoy the NaMo’s fancy campaigns and gloat in the pride of political mastery of Kothari thugs. Assuming they are going to benefit under NaMo’s thanda sayaa !
Do you have anyone who suffered in the riots? i did... so i know what it feels like. BTW, who burnt the compartment of kar sevaks? It was a bunch of sunni muslim was it not?
humanbeing wrote: Wait and watch these practicality and far sightedness of these kothar thugs will tighten the noose around abdes more and more. The coercion and intimidation will become official. Before there was an outlet for people to seek justice, now abdes and bohras will be screwed, pushed, shoved, bent and kicked from within and outside the community.
haa haa haa, tell us something new bro. this is the story of our lives. and when you talk of before, how long ago are you talking about? 100 years ago? Cause the reign of Taher Saifuddin Maula and Burhanuddin Maula was 100 years. Are you talking of Dais before them? How do you know what it was under them?
humanbeing wrote: Now there will be official warning letters sent to sabeel/wajibaat defaulters, threats will become official of consequences that a bohra will face on non payment of their taxes. Accounts are vulgarly misrepresented and a bohra cannot do a bit about it. Properties made from community’s money are bluntly transferred to private ownership and dumm abdes will know nothing about it. Wajibaat money will be spent more and more in filling NaMo’s coffers, for the far-sightedness and practicality of community’s well being under the thanda saya of NaMo.
Again, lets hear something new. the official warning letters have already started

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:17 pm

zinger wrote:GM bhai, this video is a fake. Let me tell you why
Bro zinger,
I tend to disagree with your above statement for reasons mentioned below :
zinger wrote:1. i got the same video some time in september, on FB about police going on a rampage in Vasai or Virar.
Look at the police uniforms and you will see that they are quite different from what is worn by Vasai/Virar (Maharashtra) police. The ones shown in the video have worn white shirt and khakhi pant and this uniform is worn ONLY by the traffic police of Mumbai (Maharashtra) whereas that's not the case in Gujarat, although some policemen have worn the full khakhi uniform but the the caps of ALL these policemen are quite different from what is worn by Maharashtra police and the ones worn by the police as shown in the video are exactly the same types of cap as worn by Gujarat police. Hence the video cannot be of an incident occurred in Maharashtra but it is definitely of an incident which has taken place in Gujarat.
zinger wrote:Rickshaws in Gujarat are green. this one is yellow
There are green as well as yellow rickshaws in Gujarat and the green rickshaws are the ones which run on CNG whereas the yellow ones also run on petrol/diesel. No specific colour is given to rickshaws in Maharashtra which run on CNG as well.