Bohras fall at the feet of Narendra Modi too

[Adam]

You should go and ask the abdes of the heads of Deobandis and Barelvis.

You're dodging questions as usual
ANAJMI Answer this :

It really shouldn't concern you as SYEDNA is not YOUR leader.
Look at it this way (i'm supposing you're from India), the Dawoodi Bohra s that believe in Syedna are a tiny (in terms of numbers) community varying till about a million. Whereas there are over a Billion people in India.
You live in free society, in a huge globalized world.
Syedna's actions don't affect politics of a country in general, or day to day events.
Syedna s actions don't affect you at all, so you have nothing to worry about.

WHY IN GOD's NAME DO YOU CARE!?

If you have a Leader, who is it?

You appoint your own leader, and worry about whether he acts or doesn't act. If you don't like him, no one is stopping you go find another one!
Fair enough?

[anajmi]

Adam,

You should read porus' response to your "SYEDNA is not your leader" tirade. It is most appropriate.

Here is a link to it just in case you missed it.

http://dawoodi-bohras.com/forum/viewtop ... 9&start=30

[SBM]

sorry, but this does not answer my question.
What has the Heads of the Deobandi and Barevli sects done to improve the living conditions of their community?

Two wrongs do not make one right and if some one else in on wrong path, should we follow that path.

[Adam]

Adam,

You should read porus' response to your "SYEDNA is not your leader" tirade. It is most appropriate.

Here is a link to it just in case you missed it.

http://dawoodi-bohras.com/forum/viewtop ... 9&start=30

Yes, I just read it, will be answering it very soon.
But again, YOU haven't answered my questions. Why are do dodging it over and over again?

You live in free society, in a huge globalized world.
Syedna's actions don't affect politics of a country in general, or day to day events.
Syedna s actions don't affect you at all, so you have nothing to worry about.

WHY IN GOD's NAME DO YOU CARE!?

If you have a Leader, who is it?

You appoint your own leader, and worry about whether he acts or doesn't act. If you don't like him, no one is stopping you go find another one!
Fair enough?

[anajmi]

mustafa,

I have answered, read and understand, or keep your peace.

Adam,

Read porus' answers. They are most appropriate. Syedna affects people around us. So it becomes necessary to talk about him and his corrupt acts.

[ghulam muhammed]

Modi most communal, ready to defend Bhatt: Shanti Bhushan

Key Team Anna member Shanti Bhushan on Tuesday called Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi “the most communal person” and said he was willing to appear for “persecuted” IPS officer Sanjiv Bhatt in the Supreme Court if the latter approached him.

Elaborating, he said, “Modi is the most communal person and he was responsible for the killing of a large number of Muslims.” The Bhushan senior alleged that Bhatt was being persecuted by Modi and said “we are supporting him”.

When pointed out that Hazare had earlier praised Modi, he said Anna had clarified after visiting Gujarat.When he visited Gujarat, he understood it was only a propaganda. He had then said liquor flows more than milk in Gujarat and had commented about non-appointment of Lokayukta.”

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/modi- ... an/858679/

[anajmi]

I don't expect you to see any answers...anywhere. Peace out.

[ghulam muhammed]

For me, Modi is a common criminal and who happens to be the Chief Minister: Sanjiv Bhatt

In a setback for the Gujarat government, a special court granted bail to suspended police officer Sanjiv Bhatt who has accused Chief Minister Narendra Modi of complicity in the 2002 communal riots. Coming out of jail, the officer said rule of law has prevailed.

Bhatt termed Modi a "criminal" and who can get him killed.

"For me, Modi is a common criminal and who happens to be the chief minister and that doesn't make any difference. As a police officer I see him as a criminal," he told news channel Times Now.

http://twocircles.net/2011oct17/me_modi ... im+News%29

[ghulam muhammed]

No US visa for Narendra Modi yet, says Robert Blake

NEW DELHI: The United States on Tuesday described Gujarat as an "important place for American investment", but added that there has been no review on the issuance of visa for chief minister Narendra Modi.

Modi was denied a visa to travel to the US in 2005 for his alleged complicity in Gujarat's violence in 2002.

The US embassy had said Modi's tourist and business visa issued in 1998, had been revoked and there was no chance he would be issued a diplomatic visa either.

http://articles.economictimes.indiatime ... endra-modi

[ghulam muhammed]

ISHRAT JAHAN: MURDER IN COLD BLOOD

Ishrat Jahan’s murder in Gujarat is yet another instance of death during fake encounters of Muslim youth by Narendra Modi’s government.

As the Citizen’s Tribunal pointed out in the aftermath of Godhra train burning Gujarat State machinery was told to sit back when the rioters were unleashed to kill and maim, to loot and to rape during the carnage. Now we know that in the same state, police officers have become emboldened enough to pick up minority elements, kill them in cold blood and proclaim that it is an encounter! The repeated cry of terrorists planning to kill Modi has been a favorite ploy of the police officers for killing innocents to please the CM, to seek promotions. It also helps to create a larger than life picture of Modi.

The officer, D. G.Vanjara, who killed these four, was also the one who had brutally killed Soharabbudin and his wife Kauserbi, and is now behind the bars. There is a section of Gujarat people, who are very appreciative of what Vnajara has done, and the situation which Modi Government has brought in.

The difference here is the total identification and defense of such acts by the political leadership of state. The difference is that a section of people are being made to believe such dastardly acts are needed to make the society safe. The effort of Gujarat Government is just to show a brave face in the light of exposure of its brutality in killing the innocents.

The situation which is being created due to all this is further used to blame minorities for it. The Modi-Vanjara duo, which is becoming a law unto them, is the symptom of deeper malaise of Gujarat.

http://www.insafbulletin.net/archives/626

[Al Zulfiqar]

modi's govt, his coterie of confidants and his wide ranging absolute powers, enforced through the corrupt police force and his militant party cadre full of goondas are reminiscent of what and whom..?

you guessed it. his best friend and comrade in arms, the syedna and his corrupt establishment!

"avo bhai harkha, apne bewe sarkha". no wonder birds of their feathers stick together, and have formed a mutual admiration society!

[ghulam muhammed]

Narendra Modi's legal troubles are not only for the carnage that took place on his watch in 2002 but also for the series of mysterious killings of those who had allegedly sought to take revenge on him or fallen out with him in the wake of the riots.

Irrespective of whether these setbacks affect him politically, the legal outlook for Modi in the upcoming election year in Gujarat seems grim. Consider the cases that have acquired momentum in recent months, laying bare the rampant misuse of the police to stir the communal cauldron from time to time in a state that has long been dubbed as a laboratory of Hindutva.

If Tihar Jail in Delhi has seen an unprecedented number of politicians being incarcerated for corruption, Gujarat is gaining notoriety for the procession of police officers detained in connection with fake encounters.

The transfer of the Sohrabuddin case to the CBI proved fateful as it led to Shah's arrest. He is the second Modi minister to have been arrested on the murder charge; the first being Maya Kodnani, though that was in connection with the riots.


http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes ... -encounter

[ghulam muhammed]

THE AFTER EFFECTS OF THE DAI'S MEETING WITH NARENDRA MODI, SEE HOW MODI HAS MANAGED TO CREATE A BAND OF ABDES WHO SIT ON THE FLOOR WITH FOLDED HANDS IN HIS DURBAR. A PERSON OF THE RANK OF "COLLECTOR" IS BEHAVING EXACTLY LIKE THE "ABDE SHEIKHS/NKD'S :-

http://lite.epaper.timesofindia.com/mob ... blabel=TOI

[ghulam muhammed]

Nisar mai teri galiyon pe aye watan
Ke jahan chali hai rasam ke koi na sar utha ke chale…..

I am talking about the so called best administered state of our country at least such are the claims!

I am talking about the “Vibrant Gujarat”. A Gujarat which under its capable ruler is boasting of good governance, foreign capital inflows, shining skyscrapers, road connectivity, etc etc…

All these do matter but are of little or no meaning when the system is designed to manipulate justice.

I am talking about the intolerant ruler of the state, Narendra Modi who uses law to his advantage to prosecute anybody who dares to go against his ideologies however incorrect, however sinful!

Sanjiv Bhatt apparently tops the hit list of Mr. Modi, as he refuses to bend upon his stand of speaking the truth, the truth of Gujarat genocide. Despite all the pressure tactics applied on him by the state, this upright officer refuses to budge from his stand, an officer who has the guts to call the chief minister of the state he is serving in, a common criminal for his involvement in the 2002 pogrom.

Sanjiv Bhatt like many of his colleagues has refused to toe government line hence paying a price for it.

Sanjiv Bhatt, however, says that all these moves are desperate attempts of a desperate government, and their desperateness is giving strength to his resolve to continue his fight against the atrocities of the arrogant ruler and his cohorts.

“ yun hi humesha ulajhti rahi hai zulm se khalq
Na un ki rasm nai hai, na apni reet nai”

http://twocircles.net/2011nov30/custodi ... im+News%29

[ghulam muhammed]

How holy is Modi? -- Gujarat cop’s affidavit in SC reveals

Petitioner is suspected of having stumbled upon some intimate secrets of Narendra Modi’s illicit escapades with a woman. The petition of Mr. Pradeep Sharma - admitted in the highest court of the land – exposes the holiness of Narendra Modi.

“THE CHIEF MINISTER’S ILLICIT LIASON WITH MS MANSI SONI

How are we supposed to react to this now, for a leader who has always presented himself to be holier than thou?

Mr. Modi tread on this path if you really want to, but tread softly for, in an age of publicity it is almost impossible to hide one’s clandestine affair from the glare of media.

Politicians in India are expected to have a brand image in public life. Any link-ups with the opposite sex are a complete no-no for any ambitious political leader in this country, where morality is a religion.

One wonders whether there is a tinge of ridiculous hypocrisy in this, however, dear friends, this is exactly the kind of hot soup our popularly elected Chief Minister has landed himself in to, if one was to believe this affidavit!!!

http://twocircles.net/2011dec07/how_hol ... im+News%29

[ghulam muhammed]

The ambitious Maulanas of Modi’s land

Majority of Muslims in Gujarat are suffering from a “case of Stockholm Syndrome…where the oppressed praise the oppressor.” It’s true especially in the case of the ambitious Muslim clerics and the traders.

This is the most extraordinary political phenomenon yet in the new century. One can still excuse the traders but certainly not the community leaders for embracing their perpetrators. How are we supposed to rationalize the proximity of the clerics and maulanas to the architects of 2002 carnage? Is it their lust of power or their downright fear that remains unarticulated?

Gujarat clerics suffering from Stockholm Syndrome?

The status of Muslims in India, as it is zilch beyond just being the vote bank to parties in need. This community is grossly underrepresented in position of authority as no political party could ever do anything for the uplift of this community.

We are yet to see whether Modi who is talking big time about “Sadbhavana” would enshrine the Stockholm-stricken Muslims of Gujarat in legal and political institutions or not. The right answer to these questions is of course best known to the Gujarat Muslims themselves.

Al of us would remember what humiliation Sayyed Imam Shahi Sayeid had to go through when he went ahead to offer Modi a shawl and a cap, during Modi’s three-day Sadbhavna fast. Mr. Imam Shahi Syyed put all of us to shame by doing what he did to get in to the good books of Modi and hence the power center.

Gujarat Pradesh Congress Committee president Arjun Modhwadia said, "During such events, people offer caps, shawls, pagadis to show their love and respect. In declining to wear the cap, offered by Mullahji, his real side has come out. He (Modi) tried to become a hero in 2002 with the riots followed by fake encounters. Now, his real side is exposed."

Expressing shock over this incident, the Deoband chief said: "Considering that Modi's past record and role in anti-Muslim riots was known to all, it was shocking and disheartening to find these Muslims standing with Modi. They ought to know that their act was highly anti-Islamic."

Within the country we see the Islamic clerics and Hindu priests joining hands to observe fast to seek ‘divine retribution’ for Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi for the alleged state-sponsored killing of Muslims during the 2002 riots. But the ‘ambitious maulanas’ of the land of Modi, oblivious of the realities around them, refused to join hands with people fighting against the perpetrators of the 2002 carnage of Gujarat, instead went ahead bootlicking them.

Stop using “caps” for siyasat…they’re only meant for ibadat

After being snubbed by CM Narendra Modi during his Sadbhavana Mission rallies a month back, some Muslim clerics and community leaders took another attempt towards the appeasement of the communal, highly intolerant head of the state, Narendra Modi.

This time they went ahead to offer him saffron shawl with tridents and “Om Namah Shivayah” printed on it, which Modi did accept. This was the Sunni Muslim Samaj of Porbandar. Following this, the Junagadh Sunni Muslim Jamaat gave him a 2.5-foot idol of Hanuman and a miniature of Lord Krishna’s chariot.

“Through the shawl and idol we tried to send the message of sadbhavana,’’ said Kasam Sandhar, president of the Anjuman Islam Porbandar.

Mr. Kasam Sandhar, you are not sending out any message of sadbhavana, you are just seeking some traction for yourself in the office of authority.

You have no right to call yourself the representative of Muslims, as you are doing them no good, you are just misleading the community by leading them to the bootlicking of your tyrant ruler who is a murderer of thousands of innocent lives. Stop using “caps” for siyasat..they are only meant for ibadat!

[SBM]

One more of pleasing His Gondaness Modi by Abdes and Aamil
http://www.zeninfosys.net/zi6/content/m ... na-mission

[ghulam muhammed]

One more of pleasing His Gondaness Modi by Abdes and Aamil

http://www.zeninfosys.net/zi6/content/m ... na-mission

Thanks to their master, the abdes have lost their soul, humanity and conscience and have no regard for the Muslim Ummah and the atrocities commited on them. Indeed Bohraism in its current form is NOWHERE close to Islam and the dai is nothing but a sadistic version of Modi and Thackerey who fool people under the banner of religion with misleading words like 'Hindu hruday samrat'.

[prof.Ali]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... VihOjTPzs8

[prof.Ali]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... VihOjTPzs8

sunnis

[SBM]

What is this hang up with Sunnis, this is DB Reformist Board and if you justify everything Syedna and his Goons are doing because Sunni did it then you agree that Syedna and his Goons follow the same practice as some of the corrupt Mullahs of Sunni or Shia leaders
Admin: Make sure this trouble maker does not change every thread into Shia/Sunni thread once again, seems some one has re-incarnated with new ID.

[ghulam muhammed]

This forum is inviting attention from many corners which is rubbished by the jealous and frustrated die-hard slaves of the dai. The subject article was quoted in a leading media daily :-

"BJP sources informed that a group of Bohra businessmen from Dahod had met Modi of whom two touched the chief minister’s feet while greeting him.

A photograph of a Bohra businessman touching the feet of the chief minister has been posted on one of the popular websites of the progressive Dawoodi Bohra community. The photograph has three businessmen in typical Bohra dress. While one of them is seen touching the feet of Modi, the others are standing, one with folded hands. The website page also has a discussion forum ‘Bohras and Reforms’ in which a number of Bohras have expressed their views about the incident, with the majority condemning it. Participants quoted religious rules under which such an act is prohibited. Many have demanded strict action against these community members. Of the 4,200 visitors who viewed the page, 151 commented at the forum which attracts huge participation".

http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/ ... wMode=HTML

[ghulam muhammed]

Modi gave oral order to release arrested Hindus, alleges Shreekumar

The retired Gujarat Additional Director-General of Police R. B. Shreekumar has claimed that the then Additional Chief Secretary (Home) Ashok Narayan told him that Chief Minister Narendra Modi gave an “oral order” for immediate release of the Hindus arrested in connection with the 2002 communal riots.

Claiming that Mr. Narayan's “revelation” only corroborated his earlier narration about “numerous illegal verbal orders given by the Chief Minister” and other political leaders, as he had mentioned in his earlier affidavits, Mr. Shreekumar said he suggested to the ACS (Home) then that he should report the matter to the Commission. But Mr. Narayan disagreed, stating that there was no way to prove that Mr. Modi had issued any such order.

Mr. Shreekumar claimed even after their conversation was over, Mr. Narayan had confirmed it to him that his earlier intelligence report — about measures for improving the criminal justice systems, appointments of the special public prosecutors, many of whom were found to be the Vishwa Hindu Parishad activists or its sympathisers — for the trial of the riot cases and such other measures was “ridiculed at” by the Chief Minister with the comment that his suggestions “deserved to be put in the waste paper basket.”

http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/oth ... 796399.ece

[ghulam muhammed]

The message forwarded below is self-explanatory. Citizens for Justice and Peace, along with victim-survivors, and social activists from Gujarat are planning a week-long Memorial to the 2002 genocide in Gujarat, 10 years later. Those
of you who could join in Gujarat are most welcome to do so. For those who cannot, the suggestion is that on February 28, you organise your own programmes in your own towns and cities and get connected with the Live Memorial in Ahmedabad. Please spread the word around.

*Gulberg Society, Ahmedabad*

*February 28, 2012*

*2 p.m. onwards*

How do we commemorate such a cataclysmic series of violences, lives torn as under, narratives of depth and despair, callousness and courage, struggle and hope?

Together we hope. As we near the Ten year mark of the genocidal carnage in Gujarat we appeal and call to all of you to join us on February 28, 2012 in the Live Memorial at Gulberg Society, Ahmedabad, physically or through countrywide protests and memorials all over India. From 2 p.m. onwards that day we shall be observing the Memorial. Through Reminiscences and recordings, Panels and Exhibits, Music and Words, Acknowledgements and Tears.

*Nationwide Resonance A Call and Appeal*

When we do so in Ahmedabad we hope that each and all of you in different parts of India will share the experience and in turn interact with us through a technologically linked endeavour. We shall be linking the Memorial through live web cam links and internet connections so that it can be viewed and shared at a few minutes gap in faraway Kerala, Kashmir, Manipur, Lucknow, Delhi, Mhow, Faizabad, Ayodhya, Malegaon, Mumbai.

*Requirements:*

All we ask is that you arrange Protest and Commemorations to mark this date. To enable an interactive sharing of the Live Memorial on February 28, 2012 at Gulberg Society, Communalism Combat and Citizens for Justice and Peace are in collective action, with individuals and groups, organizing a live relay of the Memorial by live Internet link. We request that each and all of you groups organize a Live Screening of this Memorial in different cities/locations all over the country on large projector screens. Participating in this memorial you organise your own special protest
commemorations in every location. We shall also make arrangements that over three thousand survivors and activists at Gulberg will also view over the evening the protests and commemorations that you are observing in different
locales.. Such an Interactive Live Memorial will be unique. It will ensure that there is a nationwide resonance to the Ten Year Commemoration of the Genocide.

The Ten Year Live Memorial will be up linked for permanent viewing on the Internet after February 28, 2012. The Memorial is part of week long observances *Insaf ke Dagar Pe, *also detailed below. The Citizens for Justice and Peace will also be organizing a Seminar Workshop on Lessons from Gujarat (Criminal Justice System and Accountability) at the Gujarat Vidyapeeth on February 27, 2012.

*Memorial to a Genocide Gujarat 2002 – 2012*

*Manifesto of the Gulberg Society, Ahmedabad*

Over the past ten years, as protests, testimonials and meet have observed the traumatic events in Gujarat in 2002, a traveling memorial to all the carnage sites was also attempted by us in 2008. Instead of peacefully allowing victim survivors to pay respects at the Coach S-6 in Godhra we were, one hundred of us, arrested and forced to bide time at the police station. The site of the burnt remains of the S-6 Sabarmti Express Coach has sadly become the sole mourning preserve of the government and organizations like the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP). Reconciliation and
Reparation appear a faraway dream when collective memorials are thus forbidden. It took time and energy to get ourselves released from the police station before we could reach the sites of brute violence at Pandharwada village, Panchmahals and then Ode, Anand before traversing Sardarpura. At each site, locales of the violence and sites where dear and near ones were unceremoniously dumped, were remembered. The next day when we walked in silence towards Teesra Kuan in the Maidan at Naroda Patiya, where Missing Persons Bodies had been dumped in 2002 and have not been recovered to date. A hostile neighbourhood and an edgy police barely allowed us to light candles there.

Given this painful past, we gave decided to collectively commemorate the 300 traumatic bouts of violence over 19 districts in a Live Memorial at Gulberg Society Ahmedabad. We earnestly appeal to each and all of you to participate in this endeavour.

Digital Installations and Exhibits in English, Gujarati and Hindustani

TIMELINE in content and chronology tracking the rehabilitation and justice
process with a

PHOTO RETRO of the lives of internally displaced persons in various transit
camps

STATISTICS of a human tragedy, an installation

MISSING PERSONS remembered through a ritualistic Wailing Wall

ACKNOWLEDGMENTS to Saviours of Lives, Activists, Jurists, Photographers and
Media People in wall panels

SURVIVOR’S LEAD US THROUGH THE MEMORIAL AND SPEAK

HIDDEN NARRATIVES brute targeting of women and children

DIGITALISED MEMORIALS News Coverage and Parzaania on large side screens



MUSIC IN MEMORIUM

Shubha Mudgal (vocal), Aneesh Pradhan (tabla), Sudhir Nayak (harmonium)


We shall be digitalizing the exhibit installations with text and photos and sending it out on CD to all of you to enable you to reproduce these in different cities. Do revert back to us on the nature of the protests and commemorations that you plan. Already, on youtube you may view Survivor lines link on YouTube http://youtu.be/xcomQuyEHtM


Rupa Modi Tanvir Jafri Salim and Saira Sandhi, Teesta Setalvad, Javed Anand


*Javed Anand*
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+91-22-26602288
Nirant, Juhu Tara Road, Juhu
Mumbai 400049

[bohra_manus]

Another one of the Modi's fast in Godhra and out of all Hindustan Times had to publish this photo
http://www.hindustantimes.com/photos-ne ... icle4.aspx

[ghulam muhammed]

Court comes down on Modi's ‘false sense of invincibility'

While dismissing the Gujarat government's petition challenging the Governor's authority to appoint Justice R. A. Mehta the Lokayukta, the Gujarat High Court passed strong strictures on Chief Minister Narendra Modi, terming his efforts to stonewall the appointment of the anti-corruption ombudsman “spiteful” and demonstrative of his “false sense of invincibility.”

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/a ... 815109.ece

[Gulf]

the CM na.mo became too wise now a days. I found nothing wrong in people those who supports na.mo

[ghulam muhammed]

the CM na.mo became too wise now a days. I found nothing wrong in people those who supports na.mo

The earlier germans supported Hitler inspite of the holocaust as they didnt find anything wrong in doing so.
The Jews supported George Bush inspite of he attacking Iraq and causing deaths to a million people as they didnt find anything wrong in doing so.
Thousands of soldiers supported Yazid inspite of he slaughtering the shohadas at Karbala as they didnt find anything wrong in doing so.
Hence it is no surprise if the spineless, hyocrite and foot licking slaves support Modi inspite of he engineering the mass genocide of innocent muslims and their leader funding the shaitan with crores of rupees and felicitating him in the House of Allah (swt).

[anajmi]

the CM na.mo became too wise now a days. I found nothing wrong in people those who supports na.mo

Now imagine how things would be if sy.mo.bu were to learn a lesson or two from na.mo. Then we would say that there is nothing wrong with abdes too.

[ghulam muhammed]

Supreme Court orders probe into all fake encounters in Gujarat

Dealing a blow to the Narendra Modi government in Gujarat, the Supreme Court on Wednesday asked the Monitoring Authority (MA) headed by M.B. Shah, a retired Supreme Court judge, to probe all fake encounter deaths in the State from 2002 to 2006.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/a ... epage=true