History behind Kashmir dispute explained very well

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wise_guy
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History behind Kashmir dispute explained very well

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Unread post by wise_guy » Fri Mar 21, 2014 10:53 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBKn6TFDVxQ

Also, watch other episodes such as history behind Sikh disputes and Indira Gandhi assasination.



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Unread post by Ummul Bani » Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:25 am

Talks like our very own Rahul Gandhi!!

I will take back entire Kashmir from India: Bilawal Bhutto Zardari
PTI | Sep 20, 2014, 02.07PM IST


"I will take back Kashmir, all of it, and I will not leave behind a single inch of it because, like the other provinces, it belongs to Pakistan," Bilawal Bhutto Zardari said.


http://m.timesofindia.com/india/I-will- ... 987127.cms



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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:51 pm

Of Media Hyped Military Rescue Operations In Kashmir Floods

With the state administration crumbling under the water, what could be seen only two agencies working in rescue operation. On the one hand, it was the Kashmir’s young men, risking their lives, carrying the rescue operation by using local Shikaras (boats); on the other, Indian military, though lately, using choppers and boats for the rescue purpose. However, the military has been widely accused of giving preference to elites, Indian tourists and Indian laborers over the common Kashmiri in the rescue operation. What distinguished the rescue operations by the local youth from the rescue operation of military was that the one was lead by passion to save every stranded person, the other was purely a “Sadbhavna” operation accompanied by TV journalists, who gave minute by minute footage to Indian military rescue efforts—showcasing their “bravery and wholehearted” effort to save Kashmiri people—the otherwise anti-national and antimilitary populace. In this scheme, the ‘chopper rescuers’ were projected by the media as the only messiah of the Kashmiri people.

If this hyper nationalistic media courage was not enough; television studios started telecasting prime time shows and debates on Indian military’s “heroic efforts” in rescue operation. For example, India's much celebrated "liberal" news anchor Barkha Dutt, in her show “The Buck Stops here” on 9th evening, castigated Hurriyat leadership for not acknowledging and praising the military rescue efforts. She went on to argue that the forces which are being seen alien and hated by the people of Kashmir are the ones who are saving Kashmiri people. Thus the argument was made and the message was conveyed that the Kashmiris should now pay back to India in the form of giving love, care to the Indian soldiers and embracing Indian system by forgetting the miseries, hardships, humiliation they have faced in the hands of Indian forces from last twenty five years.

Anyway, as Kashmir is tackling the issue of disaster, Indian media is continuing projecting the military as the only messiah. Be it 2005 floods in Mumbai, 2010 floods in Leh, 2013 floods in Utrakhand, or now in 2014 floods in Kashmir, Indian military has been at the forefront in rescuing people. But then, why in Kashmir this rescue operation is being projected in a manner as if a great mercy is done on the people of the valley. In Utrakhand the military lost its 20 soldiers in a helicopter crash during the rescue operation, but a small stone pelting incident by some stranded people, presumably angry for not be rescued immediately, was projected in a manner as if a full-flagged war was launched against the 'military rescuers'.

http://www.countercurrents.org/nabi280914.htm



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Unread post by tasneempati » Tue Sep 30, 2014 4:19 am

Pakistanis cannot understand the meaning of PEACE? That's the problem isn’t it. After losing 4 wars, Billions of Rupees, half a country (Now Bangladesh), massive Radicalization of society to send proxies to fight in Kashmir, countless deaths due to this Radicalzation, if Pakistan cannot forget or sideline the Kashmir issue(which is essentially an Islamist issue since no Hindu, Buddhist or Sikh in Kashmir will support Seperatism), then it speaks a lot for a country’s priorities. India has sent a probe to Mars! Its Economy is 10 times as big, even though population is 7 times as big. Most importantly India is peaceful. Pakistan is NOT. Pakistan has to decide if it wants peace. This peace process nomenclature implies both sides need peace, but that’s not the case, is it?



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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:07 am

Tensions Rise as Muslims object to use of loudspeakers in Hindu temple-

Tensions gripped Jammu's Poonch district on Monday after Muslim youth started objecting to the use of loudspeakers in a Hindu temple and Hindus stopped them. As per reports, the Muslims in the area started objecting to the use of loudspeakers in a Hindu temple. This happened in Poonch's Jhulas village and led to increasing tensions

http://satyavijayi.com/tensions-rise-mu ... -happened/




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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Wed Jun 22, 2016 3:16 am


Think why Kashmiri Pandits have to live in muslims homes,
they used to have their own homes in Kashmir.

Barkha promoting secessionist agenda by insisting no separate colonies 4 Pandits.
does she know Habbakadal was also exclusive Pandit colony.



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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Mon Jul 11, 2016 2:24 am

Terrorism has no religion,
but one religion has lots of terrorists,
and they openly show it.
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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:03 pm

Kashmir mein Internet par rok lagi hai ! Aur Home Minister Rajnath Singh Twitter par shanti ki appeal kar rahe hai !! Kabhi dekhi hai aisi moorkh Sarkar ???? :lol: :lol:



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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:41 am

Kashmir's choices: Peace or a 1,000-year war

'The Kashmiri identity and its unique blend of Sufi Islam, its culture and language can best survive in a plural and secular India.'
'Neither independence nor merger with Pakistan can achieve that objective.'
'Peace will return to Kashmir only when Kashmiris realise this, else they will be part of the 1,000-year war,'

To be fair to the Kashmiris, this inability to accept multiple identities is a problem plaguing the Islamic world at large. The extreme example of this is seen in the behaviour of Islamic State supporters for whom their Islamic identity supersedes even humanism, reducing them to behaving like animals towards non-Muslims.

Muslim populations in Europe and America are all wrestling with this dilemma. The root of the problem in the Kashmir Valley is the refusal to accept their Indian identity.

http://www.rediff.com/news/column/kashm ... 160711.htm



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Unread post by KA786110 » Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:54 pm

qutub_mamajiwala wrote: The root of the problem in the Kashmir Valley is the refusal to accept their Indian identity.
India would like Kashmiris to think like that but that time and option is gone. Kashmiris do not want to be part of either Pakistan or India now they want their own independent country (albeit landlocked which does not bode well).

So best interest of both Pakistan and India is to leave the current situation as it is without any further altercations.



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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:00 am

An open letter explaining the meaning of being an Indian, to a Kashmiri

http://www.opindia.com/2016/07/an-open- ... -kashmiri/



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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Jul 24, 2016 5:33 pm

Media gag in Valley, back to Emergency

Kashmir Valley has been pushed into an information black hole in a most anti-democratic and unwise exercise of arbitrary powers by the government. The state government took drastic action in the last few days to gag all media – conventional, non-conventional and social – to cut off the Valley from the world and from itself and to prevent it from being presented to the outside world. It could not have taken the action without the concurrence of the Central government. It is a virtual throwback to the Emergency days whose horrors were thought to have been buried decades ago. The comprehensive ban on news and blocking of information channels in Kashmir was the worst assault on the citizens’ basic right to know and freedom of expression since those shameful days. These rights are the same for Kashmir as for the rest of India, and the attack on them should be condemned and opposed by everyone. What is at stake in Kashmir is and will be at stake elsewhere.

The methods of enforcement of the gag orders were reminders of the actions of the worst authoritarian regimes. Mobile internet and broadband services had already been disconnected. The police raided newspaper offices and printing presses, seized newspapers and printing material and detained staff after days of resorting to methods like blocking news, denying curfew passes, physically threatening journalists and otherwise obstructing collection and dissemination of news. The government now does not take responsibility for its actions and has denied there was any gagging. But a minister had clearly found fault with “certain projections” of newspapers. Kashmir is witnessing a high tide of public anger, defiance and protests after a militant was killed by the security forces some days ago. The government is responsible for mismanaging and aggravating the situation. It cannot obliterate the message and shoot the messenger for its own failure.

When legitimate channels of news are blocked, wrong news and rumours spread, causing more damage, further aggravating the situation. Authoritarian governments do not learn this simple truth. Free media provides the best insurance against untruth and wrong propaganda, and no government wins a propaganda war after gagging the media. The government only loses its credibility, violates its obligations to the people and its commitment to uphold the Constitution when it curbs freedom of expression. The world’s largest democracy cannot deny the most basic of freedoms to its people, and continue to claim to be democratic. Even its claims in Kashmir will be questioned if it denies such rights to the people. The government must apologise for the grievous mistake it made and ensure that it will not be repeated.

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/559 ... gency.html



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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:41 am

In what should hit the liberal sympathisers of Kashmiri separatists and terrorists hard, Hizbul Mujahideen founder Syed Salahuddin admitted that the Kashmir issue was not about “azaadi” but about Islam.

“The Kashmiri movement was Islamised from day one. Why do you think an educated young man, who has a bright future otherwise, is willing to die? Azaadi is not his objective. He is into militancy because he knows that if he dies for a noble cause, he would become a martyr, as per Islam. We tell him that he would get into the ‘real life’ after this death and he would get peace.”

http://topyaps.com/syed-salahuddin-kash ... aign=TYAKP



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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Jul 31, 2016 7:01 pm

J&K: PELLET PATIENTS MAY GET LEAD POISONING

Valley enters its 21st day of lockdown as curfew is reimposed.

The Doctors Association Kashmir (DAK) said that embedded pellets in the bodies of the injured youths in the Valley have the potential to cause severe lead poisoning. Around 320 youths have pellet injuries, with 10 patients having lost their vision in one year. Seventy of the injured have chances of retaining their eyesight, while 60 could possibly lose their sight. Three patients have already been totally blinded.

"Pellets retained in the body are toxic and could poison and kill people," said Dr Nisar ul Hassan, president, DAK. Pellets are non-spherical projectiles loaded with spherical lead or lead alloy, designed to be fired from an air gun. A single cartridge can hold about a hundred lead bearings.

According to experts, lead toxicity secondary to retained pellets has been well documented in several studies and various cases of lead toxicity have been reported regarding these patients. Hospital authorities said after the team of doctors arrived at SMHS Hospital, 58 surgeries were performed so far.

http://www.mumbaimirror.com/news/india/ ... 461132.cms?



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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:55 am

Stoned, grenaded police not welcome in civil hospitals


A grenade splinter had hit and entered his skull through the left temporal, traversed through the brain, ruptured the tissue and left it bleeding inside. In the operation theatre, another constable was being operated on for his multiple facial fractures; a stone had hit and altered his face beyond recognition.

law and order agencies remain so dehumanized by the politics of the Kashmir conflict that it has been difficult for the administration to get their wounded treated in civil hospitals of the valley.

In a few cases of emergency, we took our injured boys on stretchers to the well-known civil hospitals but mobs chased them right up to the gate

The bone flap in his skull was opened to remove the splinter but to no avail. An injured Marathi constable who received splinter injuries in his abdomen, recounted how someone among the stone-pelters at Nowhatta lobbed a grenade at the dozen odd paramilitary men.

We are used to the stone-pelting mobs who come out on the streets almost every Friday here. We took the stones and grenade splinters but did not fire back. We always exercise restraint because we don't wish to open fire at young boys," a Kerala constable said adding, "But I got scared by the mob that followed me in the hospital

The outrage against the forces is such that even the Army hospital at Drugmulla in north Kashmir was targeted by stone pelters, a video released by the Northern Command showed. Ironically, the Army hospital treats more civilian population than Army personnel. Last year, it gave free treatment to more than 10,000 civilians.

Low paid police personnel remain at the receiving end, both while fighting stone-pelting mobs in the streets and even after they are severely injured, a constable who could barely talk with a broken jaw told

Civilian casualty and injuries far outweigh security personnel's but what should a handful of policemen do in the face of stone-pelting mobs of over 100 to 200 youth, some of which are infiltrated by armed militants, many officers in police and CRPF have been asking in Kashmir. "Our boys exercise maximum restraint but it is easier said than done when rioters and militants are out there assaulting us with stones and grenades. But it seems media wants us to abdicate our responsibility and allow absolute anarchy

Do you know the speed of a stone that is hurled at us? It is 100 miles per hour. Do you think that is not lethal?" the officer asked adding that stones in Kashmir were not benign. In the last 26 years, over 6000 security forces have laid their lives and more than 10,000 have been injured while fighting insurgency in Kashmir. J&K police alone has lost 1500 officers and personnel

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 305089.cms



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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Aug 04, 2016 6:19 pm

Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru in Amrita Bazar Partrika,Calcutta, January 2, 1952

“Kashmir is not the property of India or Pakistan. It belongs to the Kashmiri people. When Kashmir acceded to India, we made it clear to the Leaders of the Kashmir people that we would ultimately abide by the verdict of their plebiscite. If they tell us to walk out, I would have no hesitation in quitting Kashmir,”

“We have taken the issue to the United Nations and given our word of honour for a peaceful solution. As a great nation, we cannot go back on it. We have left the question of final solution to the people of Kashmir and we are determined to abide by their decision.” Kashmir Today