Australia Jamaats

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ozmujaheed
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Joined: Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:14 am

Australia Jamaats

#1

Unread post by ozmujaheed » Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:35 pm

This message has been doing the rounds , some disrguntled group is standing up.

----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Yvonne Michael
To:
Sent: Wednesday, 27 March 2013 1:19 PM
Subject: Sydney Momeenin

Hi
I agree with you.
You need to go a bit further. As Australia borrows money to pay for
baby bonus, pension, unemployment cash and all the other benefits
those momeenin who have or are receiving benefits from Australian
Government should send the money back as it is from riba haram money.
Infact all the momeenin should leave Australia for good as all services
provided is with money tinted with riba.
you can reword this and send to all Australian Bohras.
Good Luck

----- Forwarded Message -----
From: J Ali
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 19 March 2013 3:25 PM
Subject: Maula Farman in Sydney

To Sydney mumin affected. Maula Sayedi Ali Qadr Mufadal Shazada Saheb TUS has told muminin to purify from napaki like riba, khamar, zina, dagakhori. We do not know how many bhaio and baheno in Sydney are doing the napak adats.But we know many work for banking business like Westpac, ANZ, Commonwealth, National Australia, AMP, Macquarie. They receive wages from bank profit from interests, credit finance, derivatives, bonds, funds, investments, insurance. Mumin use the wages as rizk for their family, farzando, wajebat, daris , najwas. We have to stop Sydney mumin working for banking businesses. Shameful if Maula found out in Sydney we have mashayek, mullahs, khidmat guzars, shabab working for banks. How can you ask other muminin to change before the khidmat guzar show by example. If Khidmat guzar ayan remain in banks the ayan have to resign from position so muminin who already live paak life can do khidmat and advise others.Message sent without raza of Janab

Maqbool
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Joined: Thu May 10, 2007 4:01 am

Re: Australia Jamaats

#2

Unread post by Maqbool » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:39 am

ozmujaheed wrote: They receive wages from bank profit from interests,
OK then what about our accounts with banks, The banks are not earning from our accounts with them?

asad
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Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:54 am

Re: Australia Jamaats

#3

Unread post by asad » Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:18 am

so Oz when are you leaving Australia than. :wink:

ozmujaheed
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Joined: Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:14 am

Re: Australia Jamaats

#4

Unread post by ozmujaheed » Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:17 am

If Kothar is reading this they better take serious legal advise because they will face the full force of law and media if they trample, using disguised farmans to preach extreme ideology and impose a form of shariat on Bohras and deny them freedom provided by law and Australian values.

They better read and learn from history..this is not UK, India or Africa.

http://www.valueseducation.edu.au/value ... 14515.html
2005
Federal Education Minister Dr Brendan Nelson says he will be meeting the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils (AFIC) to develop ways to teach so-called Australian values to Muslim school children.

But Dr Nelson says those who do not accept and teach Australian values should "clear off".

One of the recommendations at Prime Minister John Howard's terrorism summit yesterday was for Islamic schools to be encouraged to denounce extremism and teach about Australian traditions and culture.

The Minister says it is important for all groups to be integrated into the Australian community, whatever their religion.

"If you want to be an Australian, if you want to raise your children in Australia, we fully expect those children to be taught and to accept Australian values and beliefs," he said.

"We want them to understand our history and our culture, the extent to which we believe in mateship and giving another person a fair go, and basically if people don't want to support and accept and adopt and teach Australian values then, they should clear off."

But a prominent Muslim educator says Australian values and traditions are already being taught in Islamic schools.

The deputy president of the Australian Council of Islamic Education in Schools, Silma Ihran, says the Minister should meet with school leaders to get a clear understanding of what is actually being taught.

"We have a document in all of our schools and we've all been receiving, through associations such as Independent Schools Association, professional development on how to actively incorporate the state of Australian values that are in this document, called Australian Values for Schools, as part of our teaching process," he said.

Meanwhile, Muslim educators are calling on Mr Howard to include their representatives in future summits with the Islamic community.

Ms Ihran, who is also the principal of the Nooral Houda Islamic College in Strathfield in Sydney, says Mr Howard must consider the wider Muslim community and its youth before making decisions about the teachings of Islamic schools.

"The Federation of Islamic Councils is an excellent body, but it doesn't represent the majority of the community and it itself isn't aware of some of these programs which are really the ones that the Government should be working with, to make sure that their concerns over the issues of values and citizenship are really addressed properly," she said.

Howard

Prime Minister John Howard says the Government is willing to go inside mosques, prayer halls and Islamic schools to ensure they are not preaching terrorism.

"I mean I have no desire and nor is it the Government's intention to interfere in anyway with the freedom or practice of religion," he said.

"But we have a right to know whether there is, within any section of the Islamic community, a preaching of the virtues of terrorism."

This article is being challenged if it was ever stated but is from far right blogs
http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/govern ... grants.htm

think
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Re: Australia Jamaats

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Unread post by think » Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:38 am

none of these human values are taught in bohri madrasas. The amil is king and every one is taught to be subserviant to him. Once you take your misaak ,you have become the slave of the Dai so where is the teaching of self respect and freedom that the austrailian education council is talking about. The austrailian education council's policies are more in line with the progressive bohri council's policies. The representation of the progressive bohri council in austrailia would be very fruitful.

wise_guy
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Joined: Sat Jan 28, 2012 5:52 pm

Re: Australia Jamaats

#6

Unread post by wise_guy » Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:35 am

think wrote:none of these human values are taught in bohri madrasas. The amil is king and every one is taught to be subserviant to him. Once you take your misaak ,you have become the slave of the Dai so where is the teaching of self respect and freedom that the austrailian education council is talking about. The austrailian education council's policies are more in line with the progressive bohri council's policies. The representation of the progressive bohri council in austrailia would be very fruitful.
well this is to do with the education system Indians go through. Indian education systme doesn't promote free learning and thinking. Its structure is pretty rigid. One has to learn what the state has decided is best (which is equivalent to stone age). Most schools and higher learning institutes follow a very rigid structure of curriculum and practices. Most Indian students are only concerned with excelling in exams by rote learning without giving any thought to knowledge and concepts and again most companies looking to hire consider the examinations as the sole indicator of the progress of student. So most Indian students are caught in the web of exams, marks and percentages. There is no incentive whatsoever for learning new concepts and things or see things differently

So keeping all the above points in mind, how do you think that most bohras would oppose the Aamil or Kothar or any authority and think freely ?

seriousnessisamess
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Joined: Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:13 am

Re: Australia Jamaats

#7

Unread post by seriousnessisamess » Sat Oct 12, 2013 12:35 am

Why font these kothars eat shit and die one dat,Why cannot we just close down all the money laundering officea,and who the hell is royal here,We work hard and they took our money,multiplied it into god knows damn how much and called themself diffrent from us and royals,All these royal family 2 penny dogs link pricks have never worked,have seen young guys acting like girls and enjoying the share of what we give then.