Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics)

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Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by Ozdundee » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:35 am

Universaldad wrote: it is his mindset, knowledge and personality that communicates and delivers to the audience that matters.
:D :x :P :oops:......laughter...fell of my chair...got a hiccup..tears in my eyes...need a pump ..got breathless ...wife thought I got a heart attack.

Best joke of the month.

We are talking about the same person the SMS , right ?

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Unread post by Dumbledore » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:31 am

humanbeing wrote:
Universaldad wrote:I believe the Alighar University delegation was there to request Syedna Saheb to accept the chancellorship of the university in the footsteps of SMB and STS.
I would love to see speech of SMS addressing aligarh university students ! can SMS communicate in English ? just asking, Jokes Apart !
Kya hota hai ...kya ho sakta hai...kya hojayega...kyabkyabnahi hosakta.in urdu....

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Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by Universaldad » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:38 am

Ozdundee wrote:
Universaldad wrote: it is his mindset, knowledge and personality that communicates and delivers to the audience that matters.
:D :x :P :oops:......laughter...fell of my chair...got a hiccup..tears in my eyes...need a pump ..got breathless ...wife thought I got a heart attack.

Best joke of the month.

We are talking about the same person the SMS , right ?
Your wife must be dissapointed then.

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Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by YaHussain » Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:59 am

Universaldad wrote:
Ozdundee wrote: :D :x :P :oops:......laughter...fell of my chair...got a hiccup..tears in my eyes...need a pump ..got breathless ...wife thought I got a heart attack.

Best joke of the month.

We are talking about the same person the SMS , right ?
Your wife must be dissapointed then.
that was hilarious

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Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by topiwala » Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:38 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote:
Universaldad wrote:I have called KQ a [DELETED]. i.e. a speech impaired person. What is wrong in that. Why dont you call a blind man blind, or a mute person a mute.
It means that you would call your limping father a [DELETED].! During his later years, SMB had lost all his teeth so did you call him [DELETED].? He wore dentures which protruded weirdly, so would you call him [DELETED]. ?
gm how dare you insult Mola with such harsh word, this is clearly hypocrisy towards bohra religion and you have exposed you true wahhabi core.

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:51 pm

topiwala wrote:
ghulam muhammed wrote: It means that you would call your limping father a [DELETED]. ! During his later years, SMB had lost all his teeth so did you call him [DELETED]." ? He wore dentures which protruded weirdly, so would you call him [DELETED]." ?
gm how dare you insult Mola with such harsh word, this is clearly hypocrisy towards bohra religion and you have exposed you true wahhabi core.
topiwala, you seem to be so stress-free, now that you are back after successfully selling off all your surplus stocks of XXL topi's. in any case, welcome back, we sorely needed the superb hilarity you always provide.

now let me understand your logic. so anyone who opposes the dai is a wahabi??

and since when did a new religion called 'bohra religion' come into being? are these bohras muslims or some other religion or cult? i hope you know the difference between bohras and muslims and a religion v/s a cult.

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Unread post by topiwala » Tue Nov 25, 2014 2:42 am

please read my posts in islam section where I clearly defined what a wahhabi is , wahhabi is not affliated to a region /person, it is an ideology which goes back even before Abdul wahhab. even the protestants use wahhabi ideology. and the basis of this forum is wahhabi ideology this is why it attracts so many pure bred wahhabis like GM,anajmi, Zulfiqar,sbm etc

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Unread post by Ozdundee » Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:24 am

By that case even SKQ will be labelled Wahhabi, women who work and not wear ride are Wahhabi, the kid who refused to play with SMS when they were young is a Wahhabi.

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Unread post by SBM » Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:12 am

Topiwala
and the basis of this forum is wahhabi ideology this is why it attracts so many pure bred wahhabis like GM,anajmi, Zulfiqar,sbm etc
On that basis you are also Wahabi since you are attracted to this website Welcome Brother to our club :mrgreen:

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Unread post by topiwala » Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:41 am

nopes, i was not at all attracted, I came here for the sole purpose of exposing the true nature of wahhabism and the wahhabi people hiding behind "bohra" curtains.

It holds true as you see no bohra mumineen visits this site which I CONFIRMED and only "internalized wahhabi" people come here. Just goto any hardware shop and ask any mumineen about this site , he will say NO

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Unread post by YaHussain » Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:51 am

thats true actually no one in my circle visits this website neither they care about it.

I come here just for one thread and that is "BOHRA SMS DUNIYA" its really funny to see updates on that thread which is not possible for me to see otherwise.

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Unread post by Akhtiar Wahid » Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:08 am

Obviously they will say No! even if they are visiting this website. this website is a tool for anonymity. You come here speak your heart out without the constant fear of ex-communication and social stigma.
This website has been coined the term as "Axis of evil" by the holy preacher, he does not mention the name of the website, but indirectly blaming the use of internet for such uses for exposing the truth of the saints covered in white apparel.

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:07 pm

topiwala wrote:
It holds true as you see no bohra mumineen visits this site .....

Just goto any hardware shop and ask any mumineen about this site ,
but since you are visiting here, then you are not a true bohra momin, but a harcore, rabid, virulent wahabi. that will make your ustad adam also a pure 24 carat wahabi.

do you mean all hardware shops belong only to abde bohras? you said "Just goto any hardware shop." btw, please actually walk into a hardware shop and ask stupid questions like 'bhai su tame PDB site jaano chho?" the reply you will get is" arey, [DELETED] nut bolt leva aayo chhe, ke ghela jewa sawal poochwa? bhaag ahiya thi nahi to tane [DELETED] dai desu."

pata nahi kahan kahan se chale aate hai phateli topiwale...

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Unread post by topiwala » Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:14 pm

miyabhai wahhabi zulfiqar ki lagta hai kuch jal gayeee.

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Unread post by SBM » Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:20 pm

topiwala wrote:miyabhai wahhabi zulfiqar ki lagta hai kuch jal gayeee.
The person from Aligarh Muslim University is Miya Bhai can you inform your Master SMS to distance himself from that person and NOT TO PUT SHAWAAL ON HIM

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Unread post by topiwala » Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:47 pm

eh Molana nu gaibi ilm chhe , e masoom chhe galtio si pak chhe. tame to khali mazak udavso , pan wah joh mola ni shaan, aa baddha wahabio mali jase ane mehnat karse to bi elokani akhi zindagi ma pan emne Mola jewi shaan nahi mile, ekle to eeloka ekla jale chhe,

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Unread post by SBM » Tue Nov 25, 2014 2:00 pm

topiwala wrote:eh Molana nu gaibi ilm chhe , e masoom chhe galtio si pak chhe. tame to khali mazak udavso , pan wah joh mola ni shaan, aa baddha wahabio mali jase ane mehnat karse to bi elokani akhi zindagi ma pan emne Mola jewi shaan nahi mile, ekle to eeloka ekla jale chhe,
Topiwala
Get off Moula Nu Phook Nu Paani and take real medication,,really..

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Unread post by Ozdundee » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:55 pm

topiwala wrote:eh Molana nu gaibi ilm chhe , e masoom chhe galtio si pak chhe. tame to khali mazak udavso , pan wah joh mola ni shaan, aa baddha wahabio mali jase ane mehnat karse to bi elokani akhi zindagi ma pan emne Mola jewi shaan nahi mile, ekle to eeloka ekla jale chhe,
Potiwala is a big fake he is here to encourage reformists to spew...his latest comment exposed his motives. He is even mocking SMS. He has no respect for SMS or Bohras, he is an example of a double agent or as they say eats from 2 hands..he gets entertained by reformists comments and maliciously picks arguments with specific individuals.

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Tue Nov 25, 2014 4:12 pm

topiwala wrote:zulfiqar ki lagta hai kuch jal gayeee.
meri bohri topi ....

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:51 pm

topiwala wrote:aa baddha wahabio mali jase ane mehnat karse to bi elokani akhi zindagi ma pan emne Mola jewi shaan nahi mile, ekle to eeloka ekla jale chhe,
Ek aj wahabi desh Saudi Arabia ye waat lagavi kaari hati, yaad chhe ke bohra dai 20 waras sudhi waha jai nota sakta, Saudi na fatwa ni copy ane vadhu jaankari maate aa forum ma e fatwa joi sako chho.

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Unread post by anajmi » Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:36 pm

Ema pan aqa maula ni hikmat ane taweel hati. Maula e jaani joi ne hiva kaam kidhela ke ena upar Saudi o baraat kidheli. Ema mumineen ni bhalia aj hathi. Maula maar bhi khase to ema pan taaweel che. [DELETED]

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Unread post by YaHussain » Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:15 am

ghulam muhammed wrote:
topiwala wrote:aa baddha wahabio mali jase ane mehnat karse to bi elokani akhi zindagi ma pan emne Mola jewi shaan nahi mile, ekle to eeloka ekla jale chhe,
Ek aj wahabi desh Saudi Arabia ye waat lagavi kaari hati, yaad chhe ke bohra dai 20 waras sudhi waha jai nota sakta, Saudi na fatwa ni copy ane vadhu jaankari maate aa forum ma e fatwa joi sako chho.
even Muhammed(s) could not visit mecca for many years when it was under kafir rules, even today mecca is under wahabiya mushriq rules and its hard for shia to visit with freedom.

SMB was ban for just one reason and that is because he kissed turbat of Fatema(s), did he do some thing wrong?

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Unread post by YaHussain » Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:55 am

this forum is really funny when some reformist is replied his [DELETED] jumps in instantly to derail subject, and get the whole thing into sectarian so that reformist can save himself.

funny way of running a movement.

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Re: Khuzema Qutbuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Wed Nov 26, 2014 2:49 am

& yahussain
SMB was not banned for kissing turbet of maa fatema as.
i think for some another reason.
may be GM can shed more light on it.

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Unread post by YaHussain » Wed Nov 26, 2014 2:51 am

qutub_mamajiwala wrote:& yahussain
SMB was not banned for kissing turbet of maa fatema as.
i think for some another reason.
may be GM can shed more light on it.
sure, what was those reasons?

btw again Admin deleted mine and anajmi posts to save him, what is going on? you guys want discussion, but you keep deleting post to save your [DELETED] ?

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Unread post by humanbeing » Wed Nov 26, 2014 4:57 am

topiwala wrote:It holds true as you see no bohra mumineen visits this site which I CONFIRMED and only "internalized wahhabi" people come here.
YaHussain wrote: I come here just for one thread and that is "BOHRA SMS DUNIYA" its really funny to see updates on that thread which is not possible for me to see otherwise.
Chalo koi bhi bahaane se aaye ... janaab aap aaye yaha par wahi khoob hai !
topiwala wrote:Just goto any hardware shop and ask any mumineen about this site , he will say NO
Hardware shop !! yaar … should have added more business lines. Bohras are quiet advanced, they have ventured into many other SMEs ( small scale enterprises)

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Unread post by anajmi » Wed Nov 26, 2014 10:15 am

even Muhammed(s) could not visit mecca for many years when it was under kafir rules, even today mecca is under wahabiya mushriq rules and its hard for shia to visit with freedom.
As I had said in my previous post which the Admin deleted, it is Allah's hikmat that mecca is under wahhabi rule. If it had been bohras, they would've taken down the kaaba to install the "haqiqi kaaba" and hajees would've had to go around this "haqiqi kaaba" and we would all be going to hell for this extreme shirk!!

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Unread post by humanbeing » Wed Nov 26, 2014 10:30 am

anajmi wrote:As I had said in my previous post which the Admin deleted, it is Allah's hikmat that mecca is under wahhabi rule. If it had been bohras, they would've taken down the kaaba to install the "haqiqi kaaba" and hajees would've had to go around this "haqiqi kaaba" and we would all be going to hell for this extreme shirk!!
Mecca is no better in wahabi rule either. Look what is happening to mecca and surrounding of haram shareef, it is turned into commercial enterprise, where rich and wealthy can have a comfortable stay. Hajj was to be journey of faith and equality, but wahabees have turned into a playground of wealthy. wahabi or bohra or anyone else has turned religions into an extremist self serving power grabbing tool.

With increasing population, what haram shareef needs is more and more open space, instead it been crowded with skyscrapers. One must see the advertistment for umra and hajj tours, where hotel advertise and charge premium for kaba view rooms. Saudi regime throw their own rules and enforce people to follow it. I am amused, if these wahabi ideaology are actually preserving islam or want to remove every sign of its existence. Demolishing historical structures and building fancy commercial enterprises. These guys still seems to be in pre-islamic hangover of their ayyashies. Still carry superior race arrogance of being an arab, cant let go slavery and mistreatment of slaves.

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Unread post by anajmi » Wed Nov 26, 2014 10:43 am

You think the commercialization of Mecca would've been any less under the rule of the Dai? In fact, it would've been much worse. And Hajj would've been centered around the Dai instead of Allah and his prophets.

As far as ayyaashi is concerned, no Saudi royal is different from the Dai and his "royal" family. There is a reason why they refer to themselves as "royals". The Dai is a mini royal when compared to the Saudis. Imagine that kind of power in the hands of someone like Mufatlal. At least the Saudi royals throw some crumbs at their subjects. The Dai on the other hand sucks them dry every opportunity he gets.

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Unread post by Humsafar » Wed Nov 26, 2014 11:55 am

anjami,
The point of humanbeing is, if I may, that Makkah and the cause of Islam is no better served under the Wahabbi Saudi royalty. To your point, are they better than Mufaddalis if they had been the custodians? A grudging yes. Are the Saudis generally better than Mufadallis? Maybe so. But that's not saying much, is it? The difference is only of degree and scale, not of fanaticism.
There is a reason why they refer to themselves as "royals".
What that reason might be?