Humsafar wrote:ahmedplumber, pls let's not put too fine a point on respect and all such niceties. If you claim to be so reasonable then would you admit that the Kothar and its goons can be violent and ruthless when they choose to be? There is enough evidence to prove that. Would you deny that people are beaten up and silenced? Would you deny that women and children were beaten in Galiyakot in the presence of Sayedna Saheb? Would you deny that it is not I but the mafia clergy which reacts violently when people "tend to show behavious that does not fit in with (its) views on alignment"?
Yes, it is perfectly reasonable to question the veracity of any incident, but it is insincere not to acknowledge the general and inherent pattern of violent behaviour of the mafia clergy and completely smother it with details of the case. This does not make you reasonable. It makes you an apologist.
Let me answer this for you.
The fact that you cant stand an Abde also being reasonable and compassionate is like a thorn in your side, which is why you will try to brush us aside as urban legends. So in essence, that puts you on par with the Kothar. You too, blast any Abde who shows signs of decency and any reformist who says that you guys have been wrong all along.
I have personally never experienced any violence from the Kothar so cannot and will not say anything on it.
And by the way, on a site such as this, niceties like respect should be appreciated and nurtured, not thrown out of the window. It is a rare thing and it is a priviliege that one should be honoured to get