Syedna & Kothar support zaalim rulers & dictators

[AMAFHH]

I have been reading about true Islam and its teaching from a long time and since from last few months as what ever is going with the Shia's in the world i was thinking if We dawoodi bohra are on the right path (Which we are not) then why Syedna & the kothar are not teaching the community to stand up against the oppressed and oppose the oppressor ? , the dawoodi bohra's do matam of Imam hussain (A.S) the whole year even in each Wajib namaz then also why they cannot understand the teaching of Imam Hussain (A.S) what he gave us in Karbala ?

[think]

beause the bohri religion has gone to the dogs. this is not a religion anymore but a money making scam.and you know who the perpetrators are

[AMAFHH]

i was wondering how Syedna can support the Saudi,Yemen ,Egypt Govt when we can see today what they had dome to Destroy Islam and humanity you can see the link http://www.dhpro.net/saudiarabia.html
the syedna cannot tell the Saudi govt that they had Destructed Syyeda Fatima Zehra's(A.S) tomb and we cannot support you as we are the lover's of Ahlulbayt
this the issue to Ponder upon that if the DB'S are under a leadership who is afraid of the Zaalim leaders of this world and who cannot give their life for islam and Ahlulbayt for their wordly Desires ,so how can they say that we are on the right path and Moula will take us to Jannat ?
if Imam Hussain (A.S) had not opposed Yazeed and had told him that i will only Pray ,fast ,perform Hajj ,
he would not had kill Imam Hussain(A.S) .
So One messge what we get hear is that whether you pray regularly or perform hajj many times or give your wajebaat on time but if you donot oppose the oppresor then your all Aamaal are of no use .

[think]

exactly right. That is why you have not one but two angles always with you writing down all your deeds, good and bad. It is the "get up and go "deed that counts ,otherw3ise shop talk is everywhere. Our rasool and all ambias had to make the effort . The Rasool had to fight many wars to spread islam, a sign that the deed had to be done. He did not sit in his tent and ask allah to make all these people muslims.

[ghulam muhammed]

i was wondering how Syedna can support the Saudi,Yemen ,Egypt Govt when we can see today what they had dome to Destroy Islam and humanity you can see the link http://www.dhpro.net/saudiarabia.html

the syedna cannot tell the Saudi govt that they had Destructed Syyeda Fatima Zehra's(A.S) tomb and we cannot support you as we are the lover's of Ahlulbayt

this the issue to Ponder upon that if the DB'S are under a leadership who is afraid of the Zaalim leaders of this world and who cannot give their life for islam and Ahlulbayt for their wordly Desires ,so how can they say that we are on the right path and Moula will take us to Jannat ?

if Imam Hussain (A.S) had not opposed Yazeed and had told him that i will only Pray ,fast ,perform Hajj ,

he would not had kill Imam Hussain(A.S) .

So One messge what we get hear is that whether you pray regularly or perform hajj many times or give your wajebaat on time but if you donot oppose the oppresor then your all Aamaal are of no use .

If Bohras had the mental calibre to think then they would not be "Abdes" (Slaves) of the Dai and the dai's empire would have collapsed a long time back !

[AMAFHH]

one more thing which i have noticed that syedna and all the zaada's since a long time are having the DB'S divided with the other islamic sect's and mostly with the shia's which is very bad for our religion as islam had came to unite each other
i was watching one video and this everyone should listen carefully how to unite
http://www.amzaidi.com/view_video.php?v ... 80f4f66ab3

[Maqbool]

Excellent views. Hope this reaches to the Alikader.

[AMAFHH]

i have heard a good thing from an AAlim Named "Agha Murtaza zaidi" and he has told that
true Islam can be defended logically but if we add or subtract anything in the religion from our own which has nothing to do with Islam & the ahlulbayt then that thing cannot be defended on any point under any circumstances ,
this rule can be applied on any community but i have applied on the Abde's and truly speaking they cannot defend the wrong Ritual's going on in the community by the Aamils. shehzada's and of the .......... ? which are practiced in the name of Islam

[dawoodfakhruddin]

bhaiyo me apke forum ko bohot arse se parh raha hu...magar mujhe koi reform jaisi baate nazar hi nahi aati...aksar aap log ek doosre se jhagadte rehte ho ya aapas me gaali giloch karte rehte ho....jiski wajah se jo naya topic post hota he us pese poora dhiyaan hat jaata he...aapse guzarish he k ek hi baat pe rahe yaha waha na bhatke aur bhatkaaye parhne waalo ko

[think]

bhia ise ka nam democracy hai. Aap to koi danda dekha kar nahi kehta ke mai jo kahoon wa hi sach hai. Aap bhe apni akal ka istemal kare aur phir sawal bhe kare take aap ko pura yakeen ho jai ke progressive sach bolte hain ke kothar aap ke sath mazhab ke naam par fareb kar raha hai. mujhe yakeen hai aap is faisle par phonchinge ke ye kothat alibabba 40 choroon ka raj hai. is ka mazhab or deen se koi nisbet nahi he. siraf aap jaise logoon se paisa lootne ka karobar hai.

[AMAFHH]

The Holy Prophet (S) said:
“On the Day of Judgement there would be people whose good deeds
will be as heavy as the mountains of Tahama. Inspite of this it would be
ordered that they be tossed into the fire of Hell.”
Upon this someone said, “O! the Prophet of Allah (S), were these
people performing Salāt (prayers)?”,
“Yes, they used to pray, and fast, and also spend a part of the night in
worship. But, whenever they chanced upon something which gave them
pleasure, they used to rush to it without thinking whether it was right or
wrong.”
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[AMAFHH]

i am quoting the below for myself & every one on this forum being a DB or from any other sect


Good Deeds are Accepted Only if Accompanied by Piety
(Abstinence From the Prohibited Things)
“Even if you stand for prayers like a tent peg planted on the ground and
keep fasting till you resemble a dried stick and stoop like a bow, Allah
will not accept any of your deeds till you have the piety to guard against
the evil deeds.”
(Iddat’ud-Dai)

[Mamluk-E-Syedna]

bhaiyo me apke forum ko bohot arse se parh raha hu...magar mujhe koi reform jaisi baate nazar hi nahi aati...aksar aap log ek doosre se jhagadte rehte ho ya aapas me gaali giloch karte rehte ho....jiski wajah se jo naya topic post hota he us pese poora dhiyaan hat jaata he...aapse guzarish he k ek hi baat pe rahe yaha waha na bhatke aur bhatkaaye parhne waalo ko

Mohtaram Dawoodbhai:
Reform jaisi baaten kahan se nazar aayegi? Wo to sirf bahaanaa hai. Asliyat to yahi hai ke ye log Dai ke dushman hai aur Hasad ki aag me jal rahe hai. Meri aapse arz hai ke jab aap yahan is forum ko padho to dimaag ko ziyaada taqleef mat do -- sirf ye soch ke padho ke yaha free entertainment milta hai. Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin Saheb (TUS) Zindabad. Khuda ki Laanat Dai ke dushmano per. Aameen.

[Al Zulfiqar]

sabse zyaada entertainment dai ke ghulam abde yahan provide kartey hai apni dimaghi bimaari dikhakar.

aur hamein unse bahut hasad hai ke kaise khushi khushi apni ghulami ka izhaar kartey hai, apne jism aur dimagh par laatein, gaaliyan aur tauheen seh kar.

yeh forum itna powerful ho gaya hai ke kothar bhi us sey darta hai aur ziyafato ki lists, dai ke charchey, muffy ke bogus mojize aur loot par parda dalne ke chakkar mein laga hua hai!!

mamluk-e-syedna ek hi bewaqoof hai ke na chaahtey hue bhi yahan laat khaaney ke liye chala aata hai...

[SBM]

Mamluke and Dawood Bhai
Forum key zariye reform horah hai, musibaat yeh hei key log jo andhe baan chuke hein unhe nazar nahi aata
Aapko example de raha hun
1-Aap ki tamam abde sites per taale laag gaye
2-Ziyafaaton kaa silsila kum hogaya
3-Qasr-e-Mawali key photo abde websites per kum hogey
4-Logon sey kaha jaa raha hey ke woh iss website per naa aaney
Aap kiss tarah ka reform chaatey hein. GUNDA GIRI TU KOTHARION KAA KAAM HEI, HAMARE PAAS NAA ITNIT TAAQAT HEY OR NAA HEI HAMARA SHEWA HEY

[AMAFHH]

I would like my friends who ever are against this given TOPIC, to bring some Authentic proof that the Dai , Mansoos ,Shehzaada's Aamils & the local jammat don't support the Corrupt, Zaalim rulers & Govt on their level's ,?
as if you say that the Dawoodi bohras' are on the right path of islam then why you should shake hands with the Al-Saud , with Obama, with Zia-ul-haq , with Modi and so on ?
and also i came to know that the mansoos had met with the MQM party in pakistan , i found out from the internet that in Karachi shia killings there is a big role of this MQM party then why you should have to make any relations with this kind of people . as in the MISAAQ (Which is a big lie in my view) the Dai have clearly mentioned to not keep any relation with the enemy's of Islam & Allah .

[think]

what has a religious person have anything to do with meeting political leaders? Even the zadas of the 51st. used to spend wajebaat monies travelling to Islamabad to meet political leaders. some of these zadas were asked to wait for hours and go through a lot of red tape before they could get an audience with the political leaders of Pakistan. Still do not know what bohri faith has to do with politics.

[Bohra spring]

Sayedna and his Zadas loot the community and give a portion to the dictators as bribes so they can get access for photo opportunity, feel influential , and launder money and goods.

In western countries bribe is not possible so they try to use lobbyist or entertain the dignitaries by inviting for kharas, pay large donations in the belief they are influential . They tried the same in Canada and Australia and look what advantage they got...one had a parliamentary inquiry while another has a PM chasing them around the courts.

Abdes as usual foolishly think maola is very respected and influential !

[Safiuddin]

"Sayedna and his Zadas loot the community and give a portion to the dictators as bribes so they can get access for photo opportunity, feel influential , and launder money and goods"

To TUS and The TUS Alikes, I say:

Zaalimo apni qismat pe naazaan na ho,
Daur badle gaa yeh waqt ki baat hain.
Woh yaqeenan sune gaa, sadaayein meri,
Kya tumhara khuda hain, hamara nahin?

[Conscíous]

as if you say that the Dawoodi bohras' are on the right path of islam then why you should shake hands with the Al-Saud , with Obama, with Zia-ul-haq , with Modi and so on ?.

LMAO

[Al Zulfiqar]

which obama? barack or michelle?

[wakeup]

hello people..great work going on.. God bless us all in right direction...atlast i found this website ..one of my anti-bohra friend told me. i am just lost in one question..does anyone know is Sir Asghar Ali Engineer still alive ?

[SBM]

hello people..great work going on.. God bless us all in right direction...atlast i found this website ..one of my anti-bohra friend told me. i am just lost in one question..does anyone know is Sir Asghar Ali Engineer still alive ?

Where do you live, In the mountains of BORA BORA, or are you still in daze with the Deedar of Kothari Goons
Please justify your avtar id WAKEUP so do wakeup from your stupor before asking stupid questions.............

[Al Zulfiqar]

wakeup,

WAKE UP!

[think]

yes he is very much alive and fighting for the cause

[wakeup]

i just told that i am a newbie in your world ..or i can say my world too now because i am too fed up from so called dawoodi bohras..sir asghar ali engineer is the man behind this movement...i just want to is he alive or not ? stop making fun of me. i am from bombay ..fatemi jammat...thats all i can reveal till now. sprrry for that as in am scared if someone know to me sees me here.

[Bori85]

i just told that i am a newbie in your world ..or i can say my world too now because i am too fed up from so called dawoodi bohras..sir asghar ali engineer is the man behind this movement...i just want to is he alive or not ? stop making fun of me. i am from bombay ..fatemi jammat...thats all i can reveal till now. sprrry for that as in am scared if someone know to me sees me here.

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Mr.Wakeup
It is ok to hide your true identity, as many of us , including myself are doing that on this forum, as we are still a part of (though just for show) mainstream DB due to our family ties, but the question you asked shows your ignorance, you just had to google his name and you would have got Mr.Engineer's entire details from wikipedia. Anyways welcome on board.

[ghulam muhammed]

I would like my friends who ever are against this given TOPIC, to bring some Authentic proof that the Dai , Mansoos ,Shehzaada's Aamils & the local jammat don't support the Corrupt, Zaalim rulers & Govt on their level's ,?

as if you say that the Dawoodi bohras' are on the right path of islam then why you should shake hands with the Al-Saud , with Obama, with Zia-ul-haq , with Modi and so on ?

and also i came to know that the mansoos had met with the MQM party in pakistan , i found out from the internet that in Karachi shia killings there is a big role of this MQM party then why you should have to make any relations with this kind of people . as in the MISAAQ (Which is a big lie in my view) the Dai have clearly mentioned to not keep any relation with the enemy's of Islam & Allah .

Please read the text of Misaq once again............... Dai has clearly mentioned not to keep any relation with the DAI's enemies and NOT Allah's and Islam's enemies. By now you should know that Allah and Islam are alien to the Dai.

[AMAFHH]