How Well Does The Dai Follow The Quran ?

[ghulam muhammed]

Some passages of Quran with its brief meaning ! Judge for yourself as to whether the Dai who calls himself a spiritual leader and adorns himself with all the fanciful religious titles and his subordinates who represent him are in anyway in line with its sayings.

2-30 I will put a representative on earth.
{ but who? } Every one claims they are the rightful one.


2-48 No help from others for your salvation.. This is written 14 times.
And yet the Dai says he guarantees your salvation by way of "Ruku Chithi".

2-83 Do not pray except to Allah. Behave respectfully with relatives. Talk civil with people.
And yet there are 2 rakats namaz for him, sujood to him. As for civil behaviour, the arrogance of zaadas is well
known.

2-96 A Humanbeing thinks, he is going to live for ever.[ till qayamat ? }
And yet the Dai thinks he will live ta-qayamat and want abdes to pray accordingly.

2-188 Do not take others property.
And yet he has usurped a number of properties owned by bohra philanthropists.

2-219 forbids alcohol and gambling in every form and manner.
And yet the Dai rents out properties to Wine shops, takes Ziafats and gives religious titles to the ones who
drink and gamble.

2-245 about karze hasana. Do not expect that back. Give willingly.
And yet the Dai's qarda hasanah scheme is opposite to the commands in Quran.

3-6 Most ayats have one meaning.Only few have double meaning.
And yet the Dai fools abdes under the garb of Tawil and goes in circles with regard to the meaning.

3-69 Do not hide the truth.
And yet the Dai speaks lies under the garb of "Taqiya".

9-116 Only Allah gives life and death. He owns everything between the ground and sky.
And yet the Dai orders abdes to take oath under Misaq thereby declaring himself as the owner of Jaan, Maal
and everything including their undergarments.

16-64 If some one argues, open Koran and show them.
And yet the Dai forbids abdes from knowing the meaning of Quranic ayats.

17-33, 53-44, 63-11. No killing animals for pleasure.
And yet the Dai kills animals for sport and pleasure.

19-128 Why are you erecting huge Buildings for your glory ? It is useless.
And yet the Dai owns multiple mahals and holiday resorts accross the globe.

26-109 No fee for Allah's message.
And yet the Dai charges fees ranging in Crores to deliver sermons.

41-39 Only bow to Allah, no one else.
And yet the Dai enjoys the sight of abdes falling at his feet in sujood.

54-17 We made Koran so simple, Is any one ready to obey ?.
And yet the Quran is percieved to be the most complicated book which can be understood ONLY by the Dai.

If any ayat is wrongly quoted and/or wrongly interpreted then please correct me as the above post is a mail which I recieved from a disgruntled bohra who requested me to put it on the forum.

[KhalifatulRahman]

so u mean, an abde is so imbecile that he cant even make an ID and post on this forum?? he needs assistant for that? or is he worried about the raza?

[Safiuddin]

Now it is rumored that raza is required even for the mundane acts of defecation and urination.

[anajmi]

bro GM,

Many of the ayahs that you have quoted have been misinterpreted and wrongly translated. When one quotes the ayahs blaming someone for misquoting the quran, then that someone needs to be extra careful with the ayahs of the Quran. I do not want to go through ayah by ayah, but tell your disgruntled bohra friend that he has made more than a few mistakes.

[Al Zulfiqar]

bro gm,

how dare you post such insults? you are hurting the feelings of over 15 million bohras! dont you know that the dai is himself the quran? why should he follow it, when it comes from within him?

apologise, take a fresh misaq, do salaam of 5,52,000 ane kaho naam.

[ghulam muhammed]

No equality in the Masjid in Syedna's regime

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rru532pI3ig

[Yusuf]

How Well Does The Dai Follow The Quran ?


Answer : No bohra knows what is written in Al QURAAN, so it hardly matters for them if so called DAI is following it or not.

[badrijanab]

2-30 I will put a representative on earth.

Mohammed s.a.w.w. appointed Mola Ali a.s. as his successor and Ali to first Imam Hasan, to Hussain, ... to Imam Ismail a.s. ...to Imam Tayyeb a.s. ... till date and till end of world. Only Bohras philosophy is in line with above. Ahamdolillah.

2-48 No help from others for your salvation.. This is written 14 times.

This is incomplete statement. Vasila of Panjatan and Imams will help only to DB's and among DB only to those who have tendered Imaan on them and did good deeds. Prophet Mohammed s.a.w.w. said, all sects will burn in fire but one so all so called Muslims will go to hell except one sect!

2-83 Do not pray except to Allah. Behave respectfully with relatives. Talk civil with people.
And yet there are 2 rakats namaz for him, sujood to him. As for civil behaviour, the arrogance of zaadas is well
known.

I think Namaz is offered to Allah only and Abde's pass the sawab to MB - it is legitimate. However, MB and TS making Abde's and Amtes to do Sajda is absolutely against Islam (Islam = Bohra Shariyat).

2-96 A Humanbeing thinks, he is going to live for ever.[ till qayamat ? }
And yet the Dai thinks he will live ta-qayamat and want abdes to pray accordingly.

Agreed. Indeed by asking above MB ceases to be DB because it is incorrect concept of Ithna Ashari and contrary to DB faith.

2-188 Do not take others property.
And yet he has usurped a number of properties owned by bohra philanthropists.

Correct

2-219 forbids alcohol and gambling in every form and manner.
And yet the Dai rents out properties to Wine shops, takes Ziafats and gives religious titles to the ones who
drink and gamble.

Agreed

3-6 Most ayats have one meaning.Only few have double meaning.

Some aayat's have single meaning others can have multiple meaning and could require great deal of commentary.

3-69 Do not hide the truth.

He speak lies openly and in most of the religious matters.

9-116 Only Allah gives life and death. He owns everything between the ground and sky.
And yet the Dai orders abdes to take oath under Misaq thereby declaring himself as the owner of Jaan, Maal
and everything including their undergarments.

Agreed.

16-64 If some one argues, open Koran and show them.
And yet the Dai forbids abdes from knowing the meaning of Quranic ayats.

Agreed.

17-33, 53-44, 63-11. No killing animals for pleasure.
And yet the Dai kills animals for sport and pleasure.

Thanks for pointing this.

26-109 No fee for Allah's message.
And yet the Dai charges fees ranging in Crores to deliver sermons.


41-39 Only bow to Allah, no one else.
And yet the Dai enjoys the sight of abdes falling at his feet in sujood.

Agreed.

54-17 We made Koran so simple, Is any one ready to obey ?.
And yet the Quran is percieved to be the most complicated book which can be understood ONLY by the Dai.
It is miracle of Quran that it delivers as per the intellect of readers. For lesser intellect person there are stories and parables. For more intelligents there are Batin and Taweel, for further intelligent there is faculty of 'Haqiqat' for top intellects there is 'Daqiqat'... Daqiqat of Daqiqat...

Only we DB the chosen sect have depth and breadth of compete knowledge of Islam and Quran. Other sects who branched away are misguided due to no knowledge of Quran. Allah has bestowed his mercy on DB sect to inherit the correct and complete knowledge of Quran delivered to Mohammed s.a.w.w. to Mola Ali a.s..... to Imam Ismail a.s..... to rightful Dai's....

GM bhai,

Post above as reply to the person who wrote you email. Thanks.

[anajmi]

2-30 I will put a representative on earth.

Mohammed s.a.w.w. appointed Mola Ali a.s. as his successor and Ali to first Imam Hasan, to Hussain, ... to Imam Ismail a.s. ...to Imam Tayyeb a.s. ... till date and till end of world. Only Bohras philosophy is in line with above. Ahamdolillah.

Actually, 2-30 is an ayah of the Quran where Allah is talking about putting Adam (as) on earth. It is not referring to prophet Mohammad (saw) putting Mola Ali on earth.

Bohra philosophy is in line with a fictional book written by badrijanab in which the words of Allah can be attributed to anyone saying anything he or she wants.

[Bohra spring]

No equality in the Masjid in Syedna's regime

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rru532pI3ig

Someone from the site, What is history of the masjid being discussed here ?

Who built it, what is the significance ?
Where is it located?
What us the demography of Bohras ?

[seeker110]

It boils down to Masjid divider not the masjid maker. Cant comprehend, all his haram ki kamaei came from the House of Allah.