Hasrat is Ghunchay Pey Jo Murjhagaya

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Nafisa
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Hasrat is Ghunchay Pey Jo Murjhagaya

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Unread post by Nafisa » Fri Aug 02, 2013 11:19 am

Perhaps Dawat command transfer to Mazun Syedi Khuzaimah Qutbuddin, real renaisance would come in the Dawat. Mazune Dawat who trained his children on the highest acedemic lavel if achieved the seat of Dai then he would pay due attention towards the intelectual upbringing of his own community?
It was Yusuf Najmuddin who hijacked the ship of Dawat and groomed his son in law,Mufaddal Saifuddin as the next Dai. The prime aim of Mufaddal Saifuddin is to turn his Ummat towards the stone age.
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Kaka Akela
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Re: Hasrat is Ghunchay Pey Jo Murjhagaya

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Unread post by Kaka Akela » Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:31 pm

you have torohfied the taang of the phrase, it actually reads like this,"" Hasrat to un ghunchoan pay hai jo bin khulay murjha gaey"".

Deerseye
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Re: Hasrat is Ghunchay Pey Jo Murjhagaya

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Unread post by Deerseye » Fri Aug 02, 2013 9:26 pm

Nafisa bhen , this is the tragedy of typical Indian mentality, we never strive for the best. We compromise too easily. Wrong is wrong , whether big or small. I don't know the age of Mazoon Saheb, but if he is on right path, why till now he did not fight corruption, rampant in his family?

ghulam muhammed
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Re: Hasrat is Ghunchay Pey Jo Murjhagaya

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:01 pm

Deerseye wrote:I don't know the age of Mazoon Saheb, but if he is on right path, why till now he did not fight corruption, rampant in his family?
This reminds me of the recent hectic activities in the Indian Parliament wherein MPs of ALL political parties have joined together and come on one platform to oppose the Supreme Court Judgement which gives provision to disqualify any MP/Politician who is convicted of criminal charges. Hence no matter how often they fight with each other but when it comes to corruption/criminality then everyone unites............ Hamam mein sab nange hai !!

Bohra spring
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Re: Hasrat is Ghunchay Pey Jo Murjhagaya

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Unread post by Bohra spring » Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:19 pm

Deerseye wrote:Nafisa bhen , this is the tragedy of typical Indian mentality, we never strive for the best. We compromise too easily. Wrong is wrong , whether big or small. I don't know the age of Mazoon Saheb, but if he is on right path, why till now he did not fight corruption, rampant in his family?
Take an example you are hungry for justice...and you kind of find a stall where 2 watermelons are on sale.

One is small and diseased stinking and the other has a few dents but ok on most of the other sides.

Would you not buy the one with few dents take it home and clean and eat the good side and quench your hunger. If you choose the wrong one you will fall sick, if you don't pick any you may die of hunger

So the point here is whatever Mazooms history and mistakes or faults , if Bohras need a diai to preside over their future then we should see if it makes sense. Mazoon has been know to be a rational person we can have hope to address and reach consensus on some if not all issues.

Mansoos is someone impossible to deal with and is surrounded by worse brothers.

At present if we seat back and Mansoos gets stuck on the throne, and mazoon is not encouraged , he will be replaced by a stooge mazoon and Bohras will be in deep trouble. The reform movements will have extremely difficult tasks fighting a new mutated opponent led by Mansoos.

SAJJAD
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Re: Hasrat is Ghunchay Pey Jo Murjhagaya

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Unread post by SAJJAD » Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:06 am

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CHOR KA BHAI GHANTICHOR :twisted:

seeker110
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Re: Hasrat is Ghunchay Pey Jo Murjhagaya

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Unread post by seeker110 » Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:06 pm

This is Shaer e mashrik.


Concept of Self Respect (Khudi)
*. Nigah-e-faqr main shaan-e-sikandari kya hai?

Khiraaj ki jo gada ho, wo qaiseri kya hai?

Falaq nay ki hai ata un ko khaajgi kay jinhain

Khabar nahin rawish-e-banda parwari kya hai?

Kissey nahin hai tamanna-e-sarwari lekin

Khudi ki mout ho jis main, wo sarwari kya hai?

Buton say tujh ko umeedain, Khuda say no meedi

Mujhey bata tou sahi aur kaafri kya hai?

(Meanings:
Nigah-e-Faqr main shan-e-sikandari kya hai =
What is the worth of kingdom in eyes of a saint?;
Khiraj ki jo gada ho, wo qeseri kya hai =
Such a rule inwhich ruler is always worried about keeping it secure, is worthless;
Falaq =
Nature;
Khaajgi =
Ruling class;
Khabar nahin =
Ignored; rawish-e-banda parwari = Sense of serving humanity;
tamanna-e-sarwari =
Desires to rule;
Khudi ki mout ho jis mainwo sarwari kya hai =
Such rule is insulting to gain which, self respect is required tobe sacrificed;
Buton =
Idols (referring to fellow human beings here);
umeedain =
Expectations;
no meedi =
Disappointment;
Kaafri =
Non Muslim who donot believein Oneness of God)