Where is Imam - on earth or heavens?

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Hussain_KSA
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Where is Imam - on earth or heavens?

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Unread post by Hussain_KSA » Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:03 am

1. In almost all bayaans, they say SMB has reached the hazrat of Imam ul Zaman and doing his khidmat there. When there is a concept that Imam ul Zaman is present on this earth, how come the SMB is doing khidmat in the heavens? It reflects that all these proclamations are nothing but empty talks !!!!

2, As in all places, the Amil of Saudi Arabia is taking Misaaqs in cities and towns. Today, he will be in Riyadh - all abdes are being asked to gather to do Taziaat and take misaaqs. The same story repeats: fakhira najwa and that stuff. Of course, no majlis can now be complete without uttering laanats on SKQ though the abdes keep repeating that Muffy or any of his brothers never utter laanat. Does this mean all abdes are violating the farmaan aali by indulging in laanat sessions. Syed ul Khair (or Shar) the Saadu of Muffy was in Dammam yesterday. Today he would be collecting money in Riyadh and Jeddah would be the next.

3. Recently in one bayan Muffy asked the Abdes to ask his bawaji (SMB) burhanuddin maula for any help and that his lakhs of angels are serving his bawaji in heavens. If some one asked for help he would definately send few angles for his help. He also asked to do Tasbeeh of Burhanuddin Maula. So now Allah, Panjatan ,Imam uz Zaman and muqaddas Maula (the 51) is no more requried for waseela only SMB's waseela will do. This video clip in circulation.

JC
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Re: Where is Imam - on earth or heavens?

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Unread post by JC » Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:53 am

There is NO Imam .......... stop waiting for Imam ........ NOT coming ........

There are however Four Dais to choose from ........ :lol: Sulaimani, Alavi, Muffadali and Qutbi ..... (there are some others here and there too, if you so wish ......... or you could also 'claim' to be a Dai ........)

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Re: Where is Imam - on earth or heavens?

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Unread post by Mazakyo » Mon Feb 10, 2014 11:05 am

JC wrote:There is NO Imam .......... stop waiting for Imam ........ NOT coming ........

There are however Four Dais to choose from ........ :lol: Sulaimani, Alavi, Muffadali and Qutbi ..... (there are some others here and there too, if you so wish ......... or you could also 'claim' to be a Dai ........)
Yaar in sab k turn leni chahaye. Har turn 6 mahenne ki ho gi.

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Re: Where is Imam - on earth or heavens?

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Unread post by JC » Mon Feb 10, 2014 11:12 am

LoL ....... Mazakyo, tum bohat mazak kartay ho .........

OK let them take turns ........ but beware who will take 'tax season' ...... aka Ramadan and Moharram months??

But turns is good idea ........ abdes will have change too ......... I get bored watching Shahrukh moveis only.. :(

accountability
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Unread post by accountability » Mon Feb 10, 2014 11:30 am

Hussain bhai, they can only say thisin bohra congregation in 21st century. Even sadhus and magicians have stopped saying, jala ke bhasm kar doon ga, it is pathetic that 100 percent literate and very cunningly smart business community is willingly digesting it, but endorsing it. in bohra culture words have no meaning, sooth saying is not touching our sermon givers. meaningless words are spoken knowingly that it is not true. But kudos to their controlling stratergies, no body asked them what happened to those 18 dead, who was responsible for ordering gate closure. no words. i think who ever ordered gate closure, an FIR should be launched against him for criminal negligence.

Mazakyo
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Re: Where is Imam - on earth or heavens?

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Unread post by Mazakyo » Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:20 pm

JC wrote:LoL ....... Mazakyo, tum bohat mazak kartay ho .........

OK let them take turns ........ but beware who will take 'tax season' ...... aka Ramadan and Moharram months??

But turns is good idea ........ abdes will have change too ......... I get bored watching Shahrukh moveis only.. :(

Yaar Ramadan aur Moharrum mein koi bhi ho kya farq parta hai. Batwara equal ho ga partner !!

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Re: Where is Imam - on earth or heavens?

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:42 pm

bhai hussain,

its only dawat na dushman like you who dare to raise such sensible questions. how can you??!

please do not doubt muffy, for he is infallible and can say whatever the sh** he wants. he is totally excused and exonerated as he is the chosen one. his own brother hoze' communicated with him first from qabr and then from heaven and informed muffy that the panjatan were hovering around him. now that smb is gone, the panjatan have abandoned hoze' and flocked to the side of smb. even the mortal but hidden imam decided to commit suicide and end his own dunyavi life so that he could reach heaven to be by the side of smb. now even motley hindus are crawling out of the woodwork to affirm that indeed muffy is the truly blessed. tomorrow pope francis will see muffy's noorani chehra in his bathroom mirror! read and hear all these mojizas and burn, you $#@*^%!

all these heavyweights have given a carte blanche' to smb that henceforth all bohras should only do his tasbeeh and granted him the power of exclusive 'shaf'aat' so whats your problem when all those aalaa hazraat have invested smb with such authority?

see this is a graduated evolution. sts became 'shams ud doatul mutlaqeen', then his son smb became immortal - 'al hayy'- now his son muffy will be transformed into a nabee upon his death, in rank higher than even aadam. perhaps muffy's son will be bequethed with the honorific AA, i.e allahwi assistant or naib allah.

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Re: Where is Imam - on earth or heavens?

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Unread post by scared » Mon Feb 10, 2014 11:54 pm

Actually, pretty soon all other muslims will have to seek Allah's shaf'aat' for forgiveness from Muffy!!

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Re: Where is Imam - on earth or heavens?

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Unread post by Hussain_KSA » Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:32 am

After looting Abdes in Dammam and Riyadh, Syed ul Khair is now in Jeddah to spread his shar. Strict orders has been served to all abdes to get three envelops each for Fakhir Najwa, Maula (Muffy) nu Salam and Imam uz Zaman nu Salam. Attendance is compulsory with ITS or ejamat cards to be scanned and signature on the papers as well.

Even Madrasa students has to be contiributed SR.52 each. All abdes are worried as Syed ul Khair is famous for his looting and rude behaviour and being Saadu of Muffy he has been given free hand. Abdes are paying almost every day for 40 days majalis and now there is another burden on them.

Even women folks heard talking against this loot and many people might ditch the collection drive which is to be held in Isteraha on Al Harmain Express way.

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Re: Where is Imam - on earth or heavens?

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Unread post by scared » Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:36 am

This is good news. They need to continue looting more and more. They sooner they sacrifice the golden egg laying chicken, the better it will be for the chicken.