zinger wrote:
Brother, whatever the reasons were for Burhanuddin Maula RA not declaring Nuss is something that cannot be debated on now. He is no more and his reasons for declaring/not declaring are gone with him.
But, i believe that legitimate Nuss has been done on Mufaddal Maula. one can debate on the conditions, the ifs and buts, the manipulated vs free will, but fact remains, nuss was done
Bro Zinger
I am unable to understand that on one hand you keep stating that the Nuss was done and on the other you agree that it is debatable about the conditions on which it was done..I am perplexed by your flippant understanding.
Let me share with everyone what Syedna Burhanuddin moula(RA) in one of the waaz said(Even Bro Adam will agree) ..i heard him say that if anyone has even the slightest of doubts in the genuineness of the Nass , then his misaaq for that Imaam/Dai is not valid.
And in above post you are yourslef are claiming that although legitimate nass was done , one can debate on the condtions..
In fact i want everyone who reads this forum to give below hypothesis some seriuos thought and ask your conscious what would you do..
Lets assume somebody tricked/forced/cajoled your very old father in front of your eyes into making themselves the sole beneficiary of the Will to his assets, and not you.
You may have thought that something is fishy and your father would not have agreed to it , and due to some questionable "tactics/mind games" by your relatives, your father unwillingly agreed to such a Will.
But at that time you kept quite , and agreed to the Will, since he is your father and you loved and respected him enough to not go against what you saw and heard in the Will.
Later on after your father's death , you come across certain "glaring and obvious" facts which solidify your doubts about the validity of the will ,
and then you become more certain that your father wrote his will under pressure(or was tricked into it) and had to keep quite about it.
After knowing about this unethical act , would you still accept it silently, thinking that its your fate? , and that you should silently give up all that should have belonged to you .?
I guess not!!!
Similarly, it seems that you have your doubts about how the Nass was claimed , but are not willing to question it
So then when everytime you or others agree that the conditions of Nass is debatable and that it was Manipulated, that just shows that you have your doubts.
And so if you have your doubt , then in what legitmacy are you claiming ShzMS to be your Dai? It comes across as an oxymoronic perspective.
Also just like the example i gave above, would sensible ppl consider the Nuss Legitimate if there is providence of debate on the conditions in which the nuss was done?
Bro Zinger ..In one of your post you said ( Tue Sep 02, 2014 2:31 am "like i said, i call it as i see it")
I sincerely urge you and others to see beyond than just what your eyes have shown you ..see with the eyes of intellect and clear conscious.
If you have your doubts, then you being the master of your senses, should acknowledge the fact that there is something wrong with the Nass claimed by ShzMS.