Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Re: QJ's lannat bazi session in BM

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Unread post by alivasan » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:15 pm

Badri mahal masjid

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:27 pm

ONLY A "WAHABI" CAN SHARE THE BOHRA DAI'S SUJNI........... NO MUMIN CAN !!!!

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Re: QJ's lannat bazi session in BM

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Unread post by alivasan » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:30 pm

qj's policy related to real estates - encroach by force. I remember how he ordered to manipulate and win case for acquiring property "sunni cemetery" adjoining bohra markaz in Delhi behind Times of India office.I was party to discussion he had with bohra lady advocate asking her to manipulate and win case by hook or crook in court.there are many cases pending in court for hearing, one can search by syedna Mohammed burhanuddin in party name in court website and you'll get big list of dozens of cases, many pending hearing until final verdict is out

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Re: QJ's lannat bazi session in BM

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Unread post by alivasan » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:39 pm

I have observed now the format of majlis events or miqats have undergone complete change. Don't know about other zadas but for QJ, first 10 mins starts with chanting LA Nat and there is break for 2 hours towards end 10 mins of chanting lanaats and its told in very confident tone by QJ that one who send LA Nat will go to jannat.(heaven). what a stupidity.

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Re: QJ's lannat bazi session in Badri Mahal masjid

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Unread post by kimanumanu » Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:53 pm

He has to keep this up as he's the one who has claimed to be one of the witnesses.

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Re: QJ's lannat bazi session in Badri Mahal masjid

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:22 pm

Qaid Johar also needs to divert public attention from the SBUT project of which he is the chairman and which is embroiled in unending controversies, this is the typical game played by politicians who rake up some nonsensical issues to divert public attention from the real issues which effects the citizens.

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Re: QJ's lannat bazi session in BM

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Unread post by Biradar » Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:27 pm

summer123 wrote:Pachi em farmayu ke agar nass kidi bhi hoi to moula malik che ... chahe te ne aape chahe tena si lai le .. je aapu hoi ye lai sake ..
There is a fundamental flaw in this reasoning. If this is true then (a) SMB (RA) made a mistake the first time, meaning he is not to be trusted to do it correct the second time (b) he may have done so-called "nass" on Mr. Muffadul and then again reverted it back to S. Qutbuddin or some third person. Each of these would make the whole process into a mockery.

Of course, the results which DMMS has obtained is precisely this: total mockery of the community and religion. He is is an anti-intellectual, misogynist, doing any senseless thing. Even Johnathan Swift would not be able to plumb the depth of DMMS's depravity.

Incidentally, if Mr. Quaid Joher told me that the sun was shining, I would go outside to verify. He is a thug, a thief and a liar.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by New » Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:16 pm

Muffy now moves Dawoodi Bakra circus to Mubai:
One more collection scheme. I know the collection of funds for Hajj and Karbala, but now to Mumbai?
Anjuman-e-Saifee Chicago
Help Chicago Muminineen to go for Burhanuddin Moula (RA) Urus
Salaam il Jameel,
Dear Brothers and Sisters
Syedna Mohammad Burhanuddin (RA) Urus is on January 6th, 2015.
Mufaddal Moula TUS has wished that EVERY mumin come to Burhanuddin Moulas Urus. Therefore, as a jamaat, we need to help our brothers, sisters, and children - who might not be able to go due to financial hardship.
Our goal is to raise $110,000 for this cause. We have already collected about $57,000 towards this. Please open your hearts so we can reach this goal - and help our jamaat to make Mufaddal Moulas wish a reality.
For those who are going - consider adding the cost of one or two more people less fortunate - to help them.
For those who can not go due to visa reasons - consider sending someone in your place.
Either way - anyone who goes will surely do dua for you - and the benefit of that will be yours.
Please give generously. Any amount will help. 5 air tickets, 1 ticket, $553, $110......
Tonight is Imam Husains Chelum, please make a niyat to help in this tonight and let us know, or bring your
check if possible.
(Checks can be made to Anjuman-E-Saifee and given to Shk Husain Bhai Karimi, Shk Fakhruddin Bhai Madhwala, or Shk Huzefa Bhai Wardhawala)

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by alivasan » Fri Dec 12, 2014 1:15 am

new concept of proxy attendant swiping ITS on behalf of one who is not able to attend.this is to ensure virtual presence of everyone and barkat is shared for one who might be busy working in silicon valley or those who might be too busy in minting wealth for muffy to loot. He is so caring that he allows proxy so he does not loose out duration during which bakras are not minting wealth for him

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by kimanumanu » Fri Dec 12, 2014 5:55 am

I also heard that there is proxy queueing for ziyarat at Raudat Tahera?

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by DisillusionedDB » Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:05 am

Duh ... Are you serious or is it a humourous take ?

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Dec 12, 2014 4:57 pm

New wrote:make Mufaddal Moulas wish a reality
Actually his wish is to display a show of strength just like how Bal Thackerey did during his Shivaji park rallies when truckloads of poor and illiterate Marathis from villages were brought after luring them with money, a bottle of whiskey and biryani. After all he has to show some "Evidence" in the court of law with regard to his fan following as all other evidences are going to fall flat on his face.

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Unread post by Ozdundee » Fri Dec 12, 2014 5:04 pm

Massive massive waste of money by the hysteria being created for the 6 January ziyarat.

Non Bohras falsely recognise this as an example of our material prosperity.

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Re: QJ's lannat bazi session in Badri Mahal masjid

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:22 pm

Qaid Johar delivering vayez at Badri Mahal.

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Re: QJ's lannat bazi session in Badri Mahal masjid

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Unread post by kimanumanu » Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:36 pm

Why was he not at the bigger (Saifee?) masjid?

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Re: QJ's lannat bazi session in BM

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Unread post by Universaldad » Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:45 pm

UnhappyBohra wrote:
summer123 wrote:Aaje waaz ma shz qaid johar bsb ye zikr kidi

Burhanuddin moula ghana particular hata.. har ek cheez nu barabar dhiyaan rakhe... ehma be teen misaal aapi...

Pachi em farmayu ke bonam house ma je moula ye nass par shahid rakhe be shehzadao ne to em farmayu ke agar moula ye pehla moula nass kidi hote to hamne kehta.. itna particular hata to kehta j e zikr na rehwa dete..

Pachi em farmayu ke dawedaar em kahe che ke maara par nass kidi.. to ehma farmayu ke shahid na rakha hoi to nass jaiz thai j nai..

Pachi em farmayu ke jhoot waat che ke nass kidi che ehna par..
Forwarded AS received
Pachi em farmayu ke agar nass kidi bhi hoi to moula malik che ... chahe te ne aape chahe tena si lai le .. je aapu hoi ye lai sake ..

Dawedaar em kahe che ke ehno haq che... ke ehno haq na aapi burhanuddin moula ye to ye waat sahih nathi... moula je ne chahe ehne aape..

Pachi em farmayu ke ye angothi ni waat kara kare che to mufaddal moula par to burhanuddin moula ye nass no taj pehnawi dido che je taj ma hazaro yaqoot che... anguthi ma ek yaqoot j che..
Why is he working so hard to deny this when there are only 1% of people with SKQ TUS :wink:

Must be a guilty conscience...
Correction it's 0.02% approx 200 lost souls in KQ toli. KQ is a low life lier who has no respect for Islam and the Quran.

And please do not be under the wrong impression that we care about KQ's toli. You guys don't matter, you guys will be history soon.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:54 pm

watsup msg :
Forwarded as received :

Aqa Mola ye aa buzurg ni poti (dikra ni dikri) na Nikah padha........ Nikah padhwa aaya naak ma oxygen laagelu chhe.... NIKAH PADHA ANE GUZRI GAYA !!

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Re: QJ's lannat bazi session in Badri Mahal masjid

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:57 pm

kimanumanu wrote:Why was he not at the bigger (Saifee?) masjid?
Because Saifee Masjid is in Bhendi Bazar where his defunct SBUT project is gathering dust and he fears a backlash from the aggrieved tenants who have been duped "Royally" by the "Royals" !!! :lol: :lol:

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by seeker110 » Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:13 pm

Universal [DELETED]

Tum apne khandan walloun ko kiyoun bura-bhala khetey ho. Un me bhi wohie khoon hai jo tumharey ragoun me ghoom raha hai.

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Re: QJ's lannat bazi session in BM

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Unread post by haqniwaat » Sat Dec 13, 2014 12:10 am

summer123 wrote:Pachi em farmayu ke agar nass kidi bhi hoi to moula malik che ... chahe te ne aape chahe tena si lai le .. je aapu hoi ye lai sake ..
If they believe that nass is retractable, then they should simply form their own religion and keep retracting as they see fit. What a mockery of roohaaniyat and everything spiritual. And yet these zombies sit idle! They don't deserve salvation!

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Re: Disillusionment with MS dawat, particularly madrassah

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Unread post by james » Sat Dec 13, 2014 4:31 am

FAO objectiveobserver53


La'nat - Some Clarification
(Article received via Email by and posted here with a few edits)

KQ and his clan continue to cry about the “La´nat” being said on him, and accuse Dawat Majaalis as turning into majaalis filled with hate, thus attempting to portray Mumimeen as fundamentalists and bigots. (Ref: FatemiDawat website Q&A and Videos 6 & 10, and various Sijill Documents). In doing this, they seek the emotional support of non-Bohras and the numerical support of the so called ’Progressive Bohras’ .

Firstly, if any of the Qutbi Bohras had attended the 40 day Khatm al-Quran majaalis of Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS they would have seen and heard, the ziyarat, the Khatm al-Quran, Sadaqallah Dua (in which each day Syedna Mufaddal would describe the maqaam of Syedna Burhanuddin RA with bursting emotions), recitation of marthiyah in the memory of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA, matam, and finally, a speech by a Saheb or dignitary. These speeches would recall the esteemed character of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA, and would end on the maqaam of his Mansoos, Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS. Whilst doing this, on some occasions, the speaker and the audience would voice their La´nat upon and bara’at from those who have deviated from the Dai Mutlaq. This would probably consumen about ½ or 1% of the total time of the Majaalis. Thus, to refer to these Majaalis as hate filled gatherings would be a total exaggeration. If KQ and his followers feel that Mumineen were referring to them when affirming the fundamental tenet of faith of distancing themselves from the enemies of Dawat, then their guilt and lack of conviction over their truthfulness is evident to all.


The meaning of La’nat:

La’ana َلعَن = to be distanced from khayr (good), rehmat (mercy). To punish, curse etc. The subject of the word “La´nat”, Mal’oon ملعون is person who has been distanced from rehmat, khayr and one who is damned and cursed.

(Source: Dictionary of Lisan al Arab)

La’nat & Bara’at - An Integral part of Islamic Dawoodi Bohra belief

La’nat in the Quran:

Fatemi texts confirm that along with doing Walayat of the Saheb al Zaman, it is incumbent on all to do Bara’at from evil prior to that. This is why we recite of اعوذ بالله السميع العليم من الشيطان الرجيم (to seek refuge from Satan, the cursed), and then recite بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم (In the Name of Allah…)..

The Quran is The Book of guidance for all humanity. It is The Book of Pure Love and Peace.

It is interesting to note that the word La’nat is mentioned in the Quran about 40 times (similar ideas are mentioned in the Holy Bible and other religious texts). This is evidence that La’nat is an integral part of Islamic belief. It doesn’t make you into a 'hate-filled fundamentalist'. It is what defines you as a Muslim.

Husain Qutbuddin despite his PhD in Quranic studies, seems to have forgotten, or has deliberately hidden these basic tenets of the Quran.

In the Quran, Allah, his angels and the people recite La’nat on a number of different categories, some are mentioned here:
Iblees (The Devil)
Those who hide & deny the Truth
Liars
Zalemeen (Tyrants)
One who murders a Mumin
Fir'awn (Pharaoh) and his followers
A person who falsely accuses someone else
Those who make life difficult for the Prophet
The people enter hell will pray La’nat on each other for leading them astray.

More so, the Quran does instruct the people to recite La’nat on those who fall into these categories.
161|إِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا۟ وَمَاتُوا۟ وَهُمْ كُفَّارٌ أُو۟لَٰٓئِكَ عَلَيْهِمْ لَعْنَةُ ٱللَّهِ وَٱلْمَلَٰٓئِكَةِ وَٱلنَّاسِ أَجْمَعِينَ
(Indeed, those who did Kufr and died as Kuffaar, on them is the La'nat of Allah, the angels and the people)
2|159|إِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ يَكْتُمُونَ مَآ أَنزَلْنَا مِنَ ٱلْبَيِّنَٰتِ وَٱلْهُدَىٰ مِنۢ بَعْدِ مَا بَيَّنَّٰهُ لِلنَّاسِ فِى ٱلْكِتَٰبِ ۙ أُو۟لَٰٓئِكَ يَلْعَنُهُمُ ٱللَّهُ وَيَلْعَنُهُمُ ٱللَّٰعِنُونَ
Those who hid the Truth, have the La'nat of Allah and the La’nat of the people (those who recite La’nat).

It is clear that La’nat is indeed a part of our aqeedah, so what more apt place to do izhaar (reveal) our aqeedah than in a Masjid or Majlis of Dawat?


The True followers of Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA, the Haq na Dai, are the ones who accept the nass on Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS. Khuzaima Qutbuddin, according to the Quran is an imposter. He distanced himself from the Dai, and in return has been distanced from rehmat and khayr. He falls under the above mentioned categories. Let us evaluate:


Iblees (The Devil) - Just as Iblees refused to give Sajda to to Adam AS. His pride and ego had the worst of him.
Those who hide & deny the Truth - KQ continues to hide and deny the proof of Nass, even though it is clear as day.
Liars - As seen multiple times on his site, in his, and his children’s bayaans, they continue to fabricate and spread their lies.
Zalemeen (Tyrants). One who claims something that is not rightfully his is a zaalim. KQ claims the lofty role of the Dai Muthlaq, he is nothing but a zaalim.
One who murders a Mumin. The Quran says that “fitnat is worse than murder”. To claim to be Dai, and spread fitnat is nothing but true murder, nay, it is much worse.
Mushrikeen (Idol worshipers). Syedi Sadiq Ali Saheb states that “those who follow the ones without Nass are nothing but idol worshipers” (they are void of the “life” of Nass, they are truly dead). Khuzaima Qutbuddin is an idol without Nass to his followers.
Fir'awn (Pharaoh) and his followers. The Fir’awn was delusional to claim that he was God. KQ claims he is the Dai.
A person who falsely accuses someone else. On number of times Khuzaima and his children have falsely accused Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS.
Those who make life difficult for Mohammed Rasoolullah SAW. Khuzaima continued to make Syedna “Mohammed” Burhnanuddin’s life difficult, and currently, the life of his true Mansoos.
The people going into hell will pray La’nat on each other for leading them astray: Although many mumineen were saved from KQ’s clutches, all those who left him continue to pray La’nat on him for leading them astray from so many years.


Learning from the past:
It is narrated in Kitab al-Taharaat, that Rasulullah SA, after seeing the mucus of someone who spat in the Qiblah, said la’nat on its doer. What is noteworthy is that Rasooulullah SA is Rehmat lil A’alameen (the mercy of Allah for all mankind), but when such a hideous crime took place, this was his reaction. Syedi Sadiq Ali Saheb QS, in one of his Naseehats states that the Dai is “The Masjid”, they are one in the same. If someone insults the Dai Mutlaq then he is deserving of La'nat, which was indeed the amal of Rasoolullah SAW & Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS.
Moulana Ali AS used to recite La'nat on Mua’wiyah LA in the qunoot dua of his fajar namaaz. Mua’wiyah LA refused to accept the Imamat and Khilafat of Moulana Ali AS, even though Rasulullah had done a clear nass upon him, and after the people had sworn allegiance to him at the time.
Imam Mohammed al Baqir AS, and Imam Jafar al Sadiq AS, on finding out the corrupt aqeedah of two people, Abu al Khattab and al Mogheerah, instantly recited La'nat on them and wrote to all the cities clearly stating that he has done bara’at and condemns their beliefs and actions. This is very similar to our times.
Imam Ali Zayn al Abedeen is the epitome of kindness, love and mercy. He suffered the lashes of the Umayyads but never wished ill on any man. In his dua that is recited daily after fajr namaaz in Ramadan, he lists the deeds that mumineen should carry out during the this blessed month. He lists in detail the ibadat one should do, and then goes on to describe the character (akhlaaq) of a mumin and his social responsibility during this blessed month, and generally throughout the year:

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[From the 3rd line] O’ Allah, and give us tawfeeq to do silat with our relations and shower our neighbours with ifdhaal and gifts. [Line 7] And (grant us tawfeeq) to bring near those whom have kept us away, and be just to those who have done zulm on us, and make peace with our enemies. But never those who are Your enemies. For they are The Enemy that we will never love, and they are our War and we shall never reconcile.


What is important to note is that Imam Zayn al Abedeen AS lists great characteristics of mercy and forgiveness, but clearly states that the enemy of Allah (and the Imam and his Dai), are those who do not deserve this mercy.

There are numerous instances of La’nat throughout the history of Dawat and Dawat texts (Eg: The last verse of يا سيد الشهداء, where Syedna RA recites La'nat on Yazeed). The most common is what every Mumin recites after Fajar namaaz everyday. Just after reciting the Fateha of Duat Muthlaqeen, and prior to Surah e Yaseen, we recite the following Dua:
(The Badd Dua on the enemies of Awliya Ullah AS)

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Thus, the amal of Mumineen during the 40 day Sadaqallah, by saying La’nat & doing bara’at on those who harbor ill will towards the Dawat and Dai Zamaan is nothing but in accordance to the teaching of Islam and the Fatimi Imams AS.



Ironically, Khuzaima Qutbuddin’s beloved son Taher had also written a document that was once posted on their Tahiyaat.com site (which has now been removed), correctly doing bara’at and and badd dua on those that insult the Dai, Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin RA. By rejecting the clear Nass on Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS, that bara’at and badd dua is now aimed at them.



What goes around comes around.

Here is his letter:
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[Translation: (Mazoon Saheb in his sabaq said to convey this as well) That if anyone insults the Dai al Zaman or does His dushmani, then curse be upon him. Whoever does dushmani of the Dai al Zaman, then he/she will never receive the shafa’at of the Dai. He will be punished in hell for ever. Mumineen’s beliefs are very clear, that only after doing bara’at from the Dai’s enemies, can ones walayat be accepted.

Source:http://qutbibohras.blogspot.in/2014/10/ ... ation.html

One of the comments on the same page:

mustafa taskeen wrote:TB's letter that has been posted here also carries an important point. He states that his father KQ clearly mentioned in his sabaq that "sajda" is only for the Dai and every other rutba should be appropriately venerated by "tasleem" and "taazeem"! Had the qutbis forgotten the sermons of their own maula! Or did they keep disobeying him??


I even have to question the integrity of KQ himself. When he himself is denying sajda on one instance for him then how did he allow sajda to himself on multiple other occasions!?? True as the post says, la'anat on the one who lies, according to quran! Hope the anonymous is reading.

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Re: Disillusionment with MS dawat, particularly madrassah

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Unread post by kimanumanu » Sat Dec 13, 2014 4:50 am

If you are so fond of lanats, how come SMS is not saying it even once?

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Re: Disillusionment with MS dawat, particularly madrassah

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Unread post by DisillusionedDB » Sat Dec 13, 2014 5:46 am

kimanumanu wrote:If you are so fond of lanats, how come SMS is not saying it even once?
He has not said it even once but he is explicitly allowing the laanats to be uttered by all those around him.

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Re: Disillusionment with MS dawat, particularly madrassah

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Unread post by DisillusionedDB » Sat Dec 13, 2014 5:51 am

James is right when he says "Whoever does dushmani of the Dai al Zaman, then he/she will never receive the shafa’at of the Dai." But the moot point here is - Which Dai ? As of now both are claiming they are Dais and the other is the imposter. So we have 2 claimants and NO dai.

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Re: Disillusionment with MS dawat, particularly madrassah

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Unread post by kimanumanu » Sat Dec 13, 2014 6:03 am

james wrote: Those who hide & deny the Truth - KQ continues to hide and deny the proof of Nass, even though it is clear as day.
Liars - As seen multiple times on his site, in his, and his children’s bayaans, they continue to fabricate and spread their lies.
Dr. Moiz lied in Raudat Tahera when he attributed words that Syedna Burhanuddin RA did not say.
james wrote: A person who falsely accuses someone else. On number of times Khuzaima and his children have falsely accused Syedna Mufaddal Saifuddin TUS.
Those who make life difficult for Mohammed Rasoolullah SAW. Khuzaima continued to make Syedna “Mohammed” Burhnanuddin’s life difficult, and currently, the life of his true Mansoos.
Can you please give proof of how he made life difficult for Syedna Burhanuddin RA?

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Re: Disillusionment with MS dawat, particularly madrassah

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Unread post by objectiveobserver53 » Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:17 am

kimanumanu wrote:If you are so fond of lanats, how come SMS is not saying it even once?
He is scared silly that someone might sue him. So he inspires the hatred and let's the children do the dirty work.

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Re: Disillusionment with MS dawat, particularly madrassah

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Unread post by haqniwaat » Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:23 am

For people who believe in zahir/batin and nass retraction, you seriously think that their madrasa will be any better?! Good grief.

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Re: Disillusionment with MS dawat, particularly madrassah

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Unread post by kimanumanu » Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:28 am

I saw this and it reminded me of James:

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by alivasan » Sat Dec 13, 2014 10:45 am

zombies are not bothered until they start getting kicked ass and fall prey to goons.

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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

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Unread post by alivasan » Sat Dec 13, 2014 10:47 am

In fact. Roohani goons and shafiq father..my foot.
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