Move to block dawood-bohras.com

The one and only free public forum for Bohras. The focus of this forum is the reform movement, the Dawoodi Bohra faith and, of course, the corrupt priesthood. But the discussion is in no way restricted to the Bohras alone.
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Move to block dawood-bohras.com

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Unread post by Admin » Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:43 pm

We received an email from the Fraud and Abuse Agent / Web.com saying:
Web.com has received the complaint below regarding website activities associated with your domain name <<dawoodi-bohras.com>>.
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And here is the complaint:

This domain has hosted a forum against a Community, they are using abusive words against our community matters.

They are falsely saying that they are a part of our community - where as they do not do anything related to our community and indeed abuse our words and actions

Kindly block this domain and help us stop them, from spreading lie's and false actions

Regards
Abdeali

SBM
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Re: Move to block dawood-bohras.com

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Unread post by SBM » Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:09 pm

Can we get more information about this person like his e mail or phone number
Can you also please inform him that North America does enjoy Freedom of Expression as long as we do not promote violence and hate we are free to express ourselves
BTW can he look in the mirror and ask his Master SMS what he does with his community and asking his followers to beat up SKQ and do not forget the treatment they gave to Taizoon Shakir when he exposed the Zahir Batin
Good part is the Kothari Mafia is now really afraid of this forum. May be Critical Thinker can talk to Abdeali and let him know how insignificant this forum is why he is wasting his time on this insignificant subject :)

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Re: Move to block dawood-bohras.com

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:16 pm

Admin wrote:They are falsely saying that they are a part of our community - where as they do not do anything related to our community and indeed abuse our words and actions
And what about Muffy who falsely claims to be a Muslim but his actions and fatwas against the mainstream Muslims are diagonally opposite ! What about Muffy's laanats on 3 Khalifas and Ummul mumin who are revered by the entire Muslim world. Its time that a detailed report regarding the excesses committed by Muffy are submitted to the higher authorities of each and every country across the globe and also to every NGOs and human rights organisations.

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Re: Move to block dawood-bohras.com

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:20 pm

SBM wrote:Can we get more information about this person like his e mail or phone number
The person Abdeali could most probably be Abdeali Bhanpurawala, the crook who is controlling the SBUT project scam !

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Unread post by SBM » Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:47 pm

Seems like this is some young kid who had nothing else to do and does not understand how freedom of expression works as he is the ABDE whose thinking power is controlled by his handlers in Saify Mahal

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Re: Move to block dawood-bohras.com

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:56 pm

SBM wrote:Seems like this is some young kid who had nothing else to do and does not understand how freedom of expression works as he is the ABDE whose thinking power is controlled by his handlers in Saify Mahal
"Abdes" means "Slaves" and slaves are conditioned to live in cocoons created by their masters hence, they don't have the capability to understand the meaning of "Freedom" !

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Re: Move to block dawood-bohras.com

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Unread post by Shafakat » Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:12 pm

Who are web.com? Do they have the authority and power to shut this forum down?

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Re: Move to block dawood-bohras.com

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Unread post by Biradar » Sat Apr 18, 2015 7:28 pm

This is stupid. Unless you are hosted on web.com, there is nothing anyone can do to block a particular URL. Just ignore this nonsense. Even if you are hosted on web.com, it is simple to move the domain to another host, perhaps outside the US/Canada into some other country.

alam
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Re: Move to block dawood-bohras.com

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Unread post by alam » Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:58 pm

It's simply time to rejoice my dear brothers and sisters.
See how completely relevant this site has become - that they want to shut it down. It's a few sensible people like AbdealiKaka who are intelligent enough to deduce the power of free speech and what it can ultimate do to overthrow a corrupt regime. Congratulations, AbdealiKaka, truth is scary at first, because it's unfamiliar. Truth is frightening, because it makes you very very uncomfortable. It's a sign that you start thinking and questioning. That's the first step.

Doubt and questioning is unnecessarily demonized to the extreme. It has started to happen so ever slowly, so gradually, over the last few decades in my beloved Bohra community.

That's also what happened when innocent well meaning Germans started following orders of their superiors and chain of command that resulted in the holocoaust. They stopped using their intellect, the ability to question, because of the extent to which the nazi rulers under Hitler had demonized the human ability for critical thinking. AbdealiKaka and others similarly inclined may want to consider this and other examples from history.

Martin Luther in the 15th century became the Roman Catholic Church's whistleblower when he started questioning the "tithing " practices of the then Pope LEO X. This pope refused the debate called on by Martin Luther, and excommunicated him from the church. And Martin luthers' offense? He was opposed to the Pope's "selling forgiveness for various indulgences". That's all. He was vocal about it and declared that this selling and paying money for forgiveness from God was outrageous - and that the simple matter of fact was that Gods grace was a free gift to believers. One doesn't need to pay another human on earth for atonement of their sins.

The point here is not the doctrine of belief of the Catholic Church or the bible or the pope or Martin Luther.

The point is simply to demonstrate the delicate nature of what can be accomplished with free speech and the price paid for losing the utmost gift from God that is unique to a human - the ability to think and use your judgement. Free speech is simply a vehicle to preserve critical thinking, and that's where the threat comes in for the unscrupulous among the humans.

That is how I see how this site has become a nuisance for the unscrupulous regime run by the powers to be in our Bohra community - where we buy a piece of land in jannat, keep our place in Bohra society, by showing loyalty by singing praise or doling out money to support the survival of this genetic pool (group of humans belonging to the Syedna's family) in perpetuity.

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Re: Move to block dawood-bohras.com

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Unread post by SBM » Sun Apr 19, 2015 6:26 am

Alam Bhai
A very good write up but your audience are not intelligent enough to understand otherwise they would not allow themselves to be called ABDES or AMTES . A good try though

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Re: Move to block dawood-bohras.com

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Unread post by seeker110 » Sun Apr 19, 2015 4:23 pm

Mola's inferior speeches matches his personality and actions.

alam
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Re: Move to block dawood-bohras.com

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Unread post by alam » Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:31 am

SBM wrote:Alam Bhai
A very good write up but your audience are not intelligent enough to understand otherwise they would not allow themselves to be called ABDES or AMTES . A good try though
oh no they are intelligent enough though. Some of the time.
Intelligence is the same vehicle through which good or evil can be accomplished. Its a matter of Values.

On another more important note, People forget there are rewards in public and private Bohra life for some actions (referring to themselves as Abdes/amtes is just one minor example; there are many others). And more important - perhaps people tend to forget there are severe punishments for some other actions (asking questions, free speech, demanding accountability). Ultimately, it's a cost/benefit ratio directly related to rewards and punishments used to influence behavior. the German army and nazis did that. The war industry of the western world do that. Terrorists and Isis are doing the same. So, I disagree, SBMbhai, Intelligence is not enough of a concept to explain the behavior of humans! In everyday Bohra life, there are Rewards for displaying "unintelligent behavior" and punishments for displaying "intelligent behavior" is more relevant here.

This forum is a threat to Kothar and they want to shut it down because a little of the opposite happens here:
there is punishments doled out here (insults, abusive language) for displaying "unintelligent behavior" and
rewards lavished for displaying "intelligent behavior".

As Sherlock would say, Elementary, my dear Watson. :)