Dawoodi Bohras in the media - 2015
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Nothing is written on stone. Any law can be changed or a new one can be made.
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Thanks for the info. Do you have any idea how a RTI was filed according to the news paper clipping above from Bhopal.dawedaar wrote:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_t ... mation_Act
RTI only applies to public authority like municipality, other government controlled entities etc.. So No, kothar cannot be touched with rti
asad wrote:Can a RTI be files against Dawat controlled trusts? If yes, why havent PDB done this till now.
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Even if bohra trust could be questioned with help of RTI or charity commission .. kothar has ample ways to channel the black money .. these trust are dummy interface to legitmize thier business and operations... they would happily give away accounts of these trust .. most of the transactions are under the table, major money laundering of black funds ..
kothar keeps abde busy in chest thumping .. while they meticulously diversify the moolah into white and black ..
kothar keeps abde busy in chest thumping .. while they meticulously diversify the moolah into white and black ..
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If Modi or previous government is/was honest they would have caught this black money easily. They take it openly in lacks in jiyafat.
In one shot they can caught giver and taker.
In one shot they can caught giver and taker.
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It is not easy to access money. Most of it is locked in high return accounts with long time maturity. There are taxes and other requirements. Obviously Moula is one greedy man. He cannot enjoy any of it.
Having tea or soda on a oatla is out of question. Just eat and count money. Wonder he can digest both. Hope he never sleeps well.
Having tea or soda on a oatla is out of question. Just eat and count money. Wonder he can digest both. Hope he never sleeps well.
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Looks like this twitter handle is an abde critic! Check out here -> https://twitter.com/TheLondonBohra
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http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-1 ... rs/6777392
Female genital mutilation must happen to every girl as part of culture, alleged victim tells court
BY CLAIRE AIRD
UPDATED ABOUT 4 HOURS AGO
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A young girl has described the religious ceremony where she allegedly underwent female genital mutilation (FGM), the New South Wales Supreme court was told.
"It's part of our culture and that has to happen to every girl," she said in a 2012 recording of a police interview aired in court.
The girl's mother, a member of Sydney's Dawoodi Bohra community, is accused of arranging separate FGM procedures on two of her daughters when they were seven years old, between 2009 and 2012.
Dawoodi Bohra is a sect within Shia Islam mostly found in India, Pakistan and Yemen.
Also on trial is a former nurse and midwife who allegedly performed the procedures.
The women and the girls cannot be named for legal reasons.
A senior clergy member, Shabbir Vaziri, is also accused of being an accessory after the fact.
At times, the mother bowed her head and put her hand to her face as the lengthy recording turned from questions about what her eldest daughter remembered from a school excursion to what happened at a home in Wollongong.
Imagine you are a princess, girl told during alleged FGM
"The person who did it told me to close my eyes and imagine a place I like," the girl told two female interviewers.
"She told me to imagine I was a princess in the garden."
She said she saw the woman who allegedly performed the procedure again when her sister underwent FGM at another home in Sydney's north-west.
"I think it was sometime this year ... because it was my sister's birthday," she said.
Earlier, the jury was told there was no dispute the two young sisters lay on a bed, eyes closed, while women offered prayers in separate ceremonies.
However, they needed to decide if the girls' clitorises were mutilated or if bodily harm was inflicted.
Defence barrister Stuart Bouveng told the court the 71-year-old former midwife was asked by the girls' mother to perform "a symbolic ceremony" on her daughters.
"[The woman] touched the genital area with a pair of forceps for a few seconds," Mr Bouveng said.
Mr Bouveng said the court would hear evidence from a paediatrician that when he examined the girls he found no evidence of scarring and the clitoris appeared normal.
"The only real issue is to determine whether each of the girls had their clitoris mutilated or whether there was bodily harm inflicted on the girls in the ceremony," he said.
The trial continues.
Female genital mutilation must happen to every girl as part of culture, alleged victim tells court
BY CLAIRE AIRD
UPDATED ABOUT 4 HOURS AGO
Email Facebook Twitter
A young girl has described the religious ceremony where she allegedly underwent female genital mutilation (FGM), the New South Wales Supreme court was told.
"It's part of our culture and that has to happen to every girl," she said in a 2012 recording of a police interview aired in court.
The girl's mother, a member of Sydney's Dawoodi Bohra community, is accused of arranging separate FGM procedures on two of her daughters when they were seven years old, between 2009 and 2012.
Dawoodi Bohra is a sect within Shia Islam mostly found in India, Pakistan and Yemen.
Also on trial is a former nurse and midwife who allegedly performed the procedures.
The women and the girls cannot be named for legal reasons.
A senior clergy member, Shabbir Vaziri, is also accused of being an accessory after the fact.
At times, the mother bowed her head and put her hand to her face as the lengthy recording turned from questions about what her eldest daughter remembered from a school excursion to what happened at a home in Wollongong.
Imagine you are a princess, girl told during alleged FGM
"The person who did it told me to close my eyes and imagine a place I like," the girl told two female interviewers.
"She told me to imagine I was a princess in the garden."
She said she saw the woman who allegedly performed the procedure again when her sister underwent FGM at another home in Sydney's north-west.
"I think it was sometime this year ... because it was my sister's birthday," she said.
Earlier, the jury was told there was no dispute the two young sisters lay on a bed, eyes closed, while women offered prayers in separate ceremonies.
However, they needed to decide if the girls' clitorises were mutilated or if bodily harm was inflicted.
Defence barrister Stuart Bouveng told the court the 71-year-old former midwife was asked by the girls' mother to perform "a symbolic ceremony" on her daughters.
"[The woman] touched the genital area with a pair of forceps for a few seconds," Mr Bouveng said.
Mr Bouveng said the court would hear evidence from a paediatrician that when he examined the girls he found no evidence of scarring and the clitoris appeared normal.
"The only real issue is to determine whether each of the girls had their clitoris mutilated or whether there was bodily harm inflicted on the girls in the ceremony," he said.
The trial continues.
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http://m.smh.com.au/nsw/female-genital- ... 915-gjna39.
By STEPHANIE GARDINER
Girl describes 'little cut down there'
Dressed in her school uniform, the eight-year-old girl talked about her love of sketching, how her little sister made her laugh, and how she liked her kind mother for packing her lunch every day.
After an hour of enthusiastically describing to a police officer and a welfare worker some of her favourite things, like her gold jewellery box, fairy books and sleepovers with friends, the girl began to answer questions about the meaning of "khatna".
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"I heard that ... it's something that some young girls have and that it's like a type of cutting to the private part?" the welfare worker asked, in the recorded interview played to a NSW Supreme Court jury on Tuesday.
"Yep, it is," the girl, who can only be identified as C1, replied.
"How do you know?"
"Because it's happened to me."
The girl said "khatna" happened to her as she lay on a bed at a house in Wollongong, surrounded by female relatives.
"It hurt," C1 said.
She said the unknown woman who did it to her told her to think of a place she liked, so she imagined she was a princess in a garden.
When the police officer asked her why it happened, C1 replied: "It's a part of our culture and it has happened to every girl."
Her mother, who can only be identified as A2, is accused of organising the mutilation of the clitoris of C1 and her younger sister C2 between 2009 and 2012.
A retired midwife, who cannot be identified, is accused of carrying out the procedure.
The jury has been told the women were part of the Dawoodi Bohra community, a Shia sect of the Islamic faith.
Both women have pleaded not guilty to a charge of genital mutilation, and the alternative charge of assault occasioning actual bodily harm.
Shabbir Mohammedbhai Vaziri, a high-ranking member of the Dawoodi Bohra community, has pleaded not guilty to being an accessory after the fact.
Earlier, defence barrister Stuart Bouveng, who is representing the retired nurse, said each girls' genitals were simply touched with a pair of forceps during separate ceremonies.
"There is no dispute that [she] was asked by the mother of the two girls ... to perform a symbolic ceremony on the two girls," Mr Bouveng told the jury.
"The only real issue is to determine beyond reasonable doubt whether or not each of the girls had their clitorises mutilated by [the retired nurse], or whether or not there was any actual bodily harm inflicted on each of the girls in these ceremonies."
Robert Sutherland, SC, for A2 and Mr Vaziri said the Crown case could only amount to a possibility or suspicion that something illegal happened at the ceremonies.
The trial continues before Justice Peter Johnso
By STEPHANIE GARDINER
Girl describes 'little cut down there'
Dressed in her school uniform, the eight-year-old girl talked about her love of sketching, how her little sister made her laugh, and how she liked her kind mother for packing her lunch every day.
After an hour of enthusiastically describing to a police officer and a welfare worker some of her favourite things, like her gold jewellery box, fairy books and sleepovers with friends, the girl began to answer questions about the meaning of "khatna".
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"I heard that ... it's something that some young girls have and that it's like a type of cutting to the private part?" the welfare worker asked, in the recorded interview played to a NSW Supreme Court jury on Tuesday.
"Yep, it is," the girl, who can only be identified as C1, replied.
"How do you know?"
"Because it's happened to me."
The girl said "khatna" happened to her as she lay on a bed at a house in Wollongong, surrounded by female relatives.
"It hurt," C1 said.
She said the unknown woman who did it to her told her to think of a place she liked, so she imagined she was a princess in a garden.
When the police officer asked her why it happened, C1 replied: "It's a part of our culture and it has happened to every girl."
Her mother, who can only be identified as A2, is accused of organising the mutilation of the clitoris of C1 and her younger sister C2 between 2009 and 2012.
A retired midwife, who cannot be identified, is accused of carrying out the procedure.
The jury has been told the women were part of the Dawoodi Bohra community, a Shia sect of the Islamic faith.
Both women have pleaded not guilty to a charge of genital mutilation, and the alternative charge of assault occasioning actual bodily harm.
Shabbir Mohammedbhai Vaziri, a high-ranking member of the Dawoodi Bohra community, has pleaded not guilty to being an accessory after the fact.
Earlier, defence barrister Stuart Bouveng, who is representing the retired nurse, said each girls' genitals were simply touched with a pair of forceps during separate ceremonies.
"There is no dispute that [she] was asked by the mother of the two girls ... to perform a symbolic ceremony on the two girls," Mr Bouveng told the jury.
"The only real issue is to determine beyond reasonable doubt whether or not each of the girls had their clitorises mutilated by [the retired nurse], or whether or not there was any actual bodily harm inflicted on each of the girls in these ceremonies."
Robert Sutherland, SC, for A2 and Mr Vaziri said the Crown case could only amount to a possibility or suspicion that something illegal happened at the ceremonies.
The trial continues before Justice Peter Johnso
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Maharashtra CM Devendra Fadnavis pushes for social boycott law against parallel justice system
Monday, 14 September 2015 - 7:12am IST | Place: Mumbai | Agency: dna
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Social boycott can now cost you Rs 5 lakh or a seven-year jail term. The home department has completed the final draft of the proposed Prevention of Social boycott Act 2015 which is expected to be passed as an ordinance by next month.
Devendra Fadnavis Devendra Fadnavis dna Research & Archives
Social boycott can now cost you Rs 5 lakh or a seven-year jail term. The home department has completed the final draft of the proposed Prevention of Social boycott Act 2015 which is expected to be passed as an ordinance by next month.
"We are working on the final draft of the law which should be completed in the next 15 days. Once the draft is approved we will bring the law by the way of ordinance in month or two," said KP Bakshi, additional chief secretary (home).
The law which is believed to be the brainchild of chief minister Devendra Fadnavis aims at preventing social discrimination or boycott by extra-judicial bodies such as caste panchayats or 'gavaki'. The fine amount will be given to victims as assistance. The Act is also likely to propose the concept of retributive justice where social punishments comprise directing the accused to sweep an area, clean public latrines, serve orphanages, donate blood or arrange social functions.
"The main aim is to crack down on the parallel justice system in Maharashtra, which frowns at inter-caste marriages, change in social practices or even people's choice of clothes," said a senior officer.
According to the bill, any person who individually or in an organised criminal manner commits acts like denying any member/members of his community access to places of worship and compelling him or her to wear or not to wear a specific type of clothing or footwear, shall be deemed to have imposed social boycott or social discrimination. Acts like compelling anyone to speak or not to speak a particular language, obstructing access to any place used for charitable, religious, educational, medical or public purposes, or from getting benefit under charitable or wakf bodies, denying anyone right to marriage, funeral or rituals, or social and business relations with other members, may also be covered.
However, this is not the first time that a law like this has been proposed. Until 1960, the state had the Bombay Prevention of Excommunication Act, 1949, which covered most aspects of the proposed law. However, in 1960, acting on an appeal, the Supreme Court declared it unconstitutional and the act became defunct.
It is believed that in places like Satara, Ahmad Nagar, Nandurburg, Raigad and several districts of Konkan a parallel justice system based on caste has existed for thousands of years. In 2013, a pregnant girl from the Gosavi community, who had married a Dalit, was killed by her father, who was being hounded by his community members for his daughter's decision to exercise her choice.
Similarly, one Santosh Jadhav was ostracised by his Kunbi community in 2005 for defying his diktat against contesting for the sarpanch's post at Harihareshwar in Raigad. Social reformer Asghar Ali Engineer who took on the Syedna – the Dawoodi Bohra community's high priest, was also ostracised.
Punishment for Social boycott
Seven years jail term or Rs 5 lakh or both.
The act is also likely to propose the concept of retributive justice with social punishments like directing the accused to sweep the area, clean public latrines, serve orphanages, donate blood or arrange social functions.
What the Act says?
According to the bill, any person who individually or in an organised criminal manner commits acts like denying any member/members of his community access to places of worship and compelling him or her to wear or not to wear a specific type of clothing or footwear, shall be deemed to have imposed social boycott or social discrimination
Maharashtra CM Devendra Fadnavis pushes for social boycott law against parallel justice system
Monday, 14 September 2015 - 7:12am IST | Place: Mumbai | Agency: dna
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Social boycott can now cost you Rs 5 lakh or a seven-year jail term. The home department has completed the final draft of the proposed Prevention of Social boycott Act 2015 which is expected to be passed as an ordinance by next month.
Devendra Fadnavis Devendra Fadnavis dna Research & Archives
Social boycott can now cost you Rs 5 lakh or a seven-year jail term. The home department has completed the final draft of the proposed Prevention of Social boycott Act 2015 which is expected to be passed as an ordinance by next month.
"We are working on the final draft of the law which should be completed in the next 15 days. Once the draft is approved we will bring the law by the way of ordinance in month or two," said KP Bakshi, additional chief secretary (home).
The law which is believed to be the brainchild of chief minister Devendra Fadnavis aims at preventing social discrimination or boycott by extra-judicial bodies such as caste panchayats or 'gavaki'. The fine amount will be given to victims as assistance. The Act is also likely to propose the concept of retributive justice where social punishments comprise directing the accused to sweep an area, clean public latrines, serve orphanages, donate blood or arrange social functions.
"The main aim is to crack down on the parallel justice system in Maharashtra, which frowns at inter-caste marriages, change in social practices or even people's choice of clothes," said a senior officer.
According to the bill, any person who individually or in an organised criminal manner commits acts like denying any member/members of his community access to places of worship and compelling him or her to wear or not to wear a specific type of clothing or footwear, shall be deemed to have imposed social boycott or social discrimination. Acts like compelling anyone to speak or not to speak a particular language, obstructing access to any place used for charitable, religious, educational, medical or public purposes, or from getting benefit under charitable or wakf bodies, denying anyone right to marriage, funeral or rituals, or social and business relations with other members, may also be covered.
However, this is not the first time that a law like this has been proposed. Until 1960, the state had the Bombay Prevention of Excommunication Act, 1949, which covered most aspects of the proposed law. However, in 1960, acting on an appeal, the Supreme Court declared it unconstitutional and the act became defunct.
It is believed that in places like Satara, Ahmad Nagar, Nandurburg, Raigad and several districts of Konkan a parallel justice system based on caste has existed for thousands of years. In 2013, a pregnant girl from the Gosavi community, who had married a Dalit, was killed by her father, who was being hounded by his community members for his daughter's decision to exercise her choice.
Similarly, one Santosh Jadhav was ostracised by his Kunbi community in 2005 for defying his diktat against contesting for the sarpanch's post at Harihareshwar in Raigad. Social reformer Asghar Ali Engineer who took on the Syedna – the Dawoodi Bohra community's high priest, was also ostracised.
Punishment for Social boycott
Seven years jail term or Rs 5 lakh or both.
The act is also likely to propose the concept of retributive justice with social punishments like directing the accused to sweep the area, clean public latrines, serve orphanages, donate blood or arrange social functions.
What the Act says?
According to the bill, any person who individually or in an organised criminal manner commits acts like denying any member/members of his community access to places of worship and compelling him or her to wear or not to wear a specific type of clothing or footwear, shall be deemed to have imposed social boycott or social discrimination
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Indian media
http://scroll.in/article/755852/in-aust ... -daughters
In Australia, three Dawoodi Bohras face Supreme Court trial for circumcising their daughters
Female genital mutilation is illegal in Australia. But in India, where Dawoodi Bohras are the only known community to practice the ritual, there is no law against it.
Aarefa Johari · Today · 12:30 pm
UK media
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 04957.html
http://scroll.in/article/755852/in-aust ... -daughters
In Australia, three Dawoodi Bohras face Supreme Court trial for circumcising their daughters
Female genital mutilation is illegal in Australia. But in India, where Dawoodi Bohras are the only known community to practice the ritual, there is no law against it.
Aarefa Johari · Today · 12:30 pm
UK media
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 04957.html
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That scroll article says that somebody anonymously tipped the authorities. Was it someone from reformist 
Ozdundee wrote:Indian media
http://scroll.in/article/755852/in-aust ... -daughters
In Australia, three Dawoodi Bohras face Supreme Court trial for circumcising their daughters
Female genital mutilation is illegal in Australia. But in India, where Dawoodi Bohras are the only known community to practice the ritual, there is no law against it.
Aarefa Johari · Today · 12:30 pm
UK media
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 04957.html
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When the girls were interviewed in their school, they revealed that khatna (circumcision) had been done to them by a woman they did not know, and described the procedure as “a little cut down there”. According to the police, one of the girls said she was given some lemonade before the procedure and was asked to imagine a place that she liked to ease the pain during the circumcision. While showering after the cutting, she was also reportedly scared that it would hurt.
dawedaar wrote:That scroll article says that somebody anonymously tipped the authorities. Was it someone from reformist
Ozdundee wrote:Indian media
http://scroll.in/article/755852/in-aust ... -daughters
In Australia, three Dawoodi Bohras face Supreme Court trial for circumcising their daughters
Female genital mutilation is illegal in Australia. But in India, where Dawoodi Bohras are the only known community to practice the ritual, there is no law against it.
Aarefa Johari · Today · 12:30 pm
UK media
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 04957.html
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http://www.mumbaimirror.com/mumbai/othe ... 221158.cms
Bohra woman complains to Hiranandani, claims teachers training college attacked her identity by saying she wouldn't be allowed to wear abaya.
A 22-year-old Dawoodi Bohra woman has written to real estate magnate Niranjan Hiranandani, alleging that she was denied admission in Bombay Teachers Training College at Colaba, as she wore a rida — the community's traditional attire. Hiranandani is president of Hyderabad Sind National Collegiate Board that runs BTTC, known to be city's oldest and most prestigious teachers training institution.
In her complaint, Mazagaon resident Fatema Sangotwala said that she was selected in the first round of online admissions for a B.Ed course, "Next was the personal interview, but as soon as I sat before principal Mintu Sinha she pointed out that I would not be allowed to wear the rida, a Dawoodi Bohra abaya. It was a direct attack on my identity," said Sangotwala, adding that she promptly questioned Sinha about the reason for the prejudice.
"She got extremely irritated with me for questioning her, but said that some schools they have a tie-up with have reservations about burkha-wearing teachers," said Sangotwala. She said that the principal's comment was an "insult to my attire, beliefs and identity".
"I simply left the room without my interview being conducted. I did not want to be part of a system that forces me to give up my culture and identity," she said.
Last week, Sangotwala wrote to Hiranandani, requesting him to look into the matter. "I have been a promising student of KC College, and have received an award from you for excellence in sociology. Your intervention and introspection shall be of great help to many other students as well," she wrote.
Hiranandani, who has already begun an inquiry, told Mumbai Mirror in a text message, "The principal has denied the allegation. She believes that this is being said as the student did not get admission."
When Mirror questioned Sinha, she said, "BTTC has a tie-up with several schools in Navy Nagar, where students pursuing B.Ed are sent for practical training. These schools have some reservations against the burkha. We have faced problems in the past." She further said that she mentions this to every candidate wearing traditional religious attire. "We have many burkha-wearing students at BTTC," Sinha said, adding that sometimes students don't do well in their interviews and try to get back with such allegations.
Sangotwala, however, maintained that the interview was not conducted at all after the argument. She has now joined St Xavier's Institute of Education at Churchgate. "I had an interview with the principal and got selected," she said, adding that she started attending the course last week. "This interview was extremely professional and the principal informed me about what was expected from me during the two-year course," she said.
Bohra woman complains to Hiranandani, claims teachers training college attacked her identity by saying she wouldn't be allowed to wear abaya.
A 22-year-old Dawoodi Bohra woman has written to real estate magnate Niranjan Hiranandani, alleging that she was denied admission in Bombay Teachers Training College at Colaba, as she wore a rida — the community's traditional attire. Hiranandani is president of Hyderabad Sind National Collegiate Board that runs BTTC, known to be city's oldest and most prestigious teachers training institution.
In her complaint, Mazagaon resident Fatema Sangotwala said that she was selected in the first round of online admissions for a B.Ed course, "Next was the personal interview, but as soon as I sat before principal Mintu Sinha she pointed out that I would not be allowed to wear the rida, a Dawoodi Bohra abaya. It was a direct attack on my identity," said Sangotwala, adding that she promptly questioned Sinha about the reason for the prejudice.
"She got extremely irritated with me for questioning her, but said that some schools they have a tie-up with have reservations about burkha-wearing teachers," said Sangotwala. She said that the principal's comment was an "insult to my attire, beliefs and identity".
"I simply left the room without my interview being conducted. I did not want to be part of a system that forces me to give up my culture and identity," she said.
Last week, Sangotwala wrote to Hiranandani, requesting him to look into the matter. "I have been a promising student of KC College, and have received an award from you for excellence in sociology. Your intervention and introspection shall be of great help to many other students as well," she wrote.
Hiranandani, who has already begun an inquiry, told Mumbai Mirror in a text message, "The principal has denied the allegation. She believes that this is being said as the student did not get admission."
When Mirror questioned Sinha, she said, "BTTC has a tie-up with several schools in Navy Nagar, where students pursuing B.Ed are sent for practical training. These schools have some reservations against the burkha. We have faced problems in the past." She further said that she mentions this to every candidate wearing traditional religious attire. "We have many burkha-wearing students at BTTC," Sinha said, adding that sometimes students don't do well in their interviews and try to get back with such allegations.
Sangotwala, however, maintained that the interview was not conducted at all after the argument. She has now joined St Xavier's Institute of Education at Churchgate. "I had an interview with the principal and got selected," she said, adding that she started attending the course last week. "This interview was extremely professional and the principal informed me about what was expected from me during the two-year course," she said.
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http://www.khaleejtimes.com/nation/gene ... --in-dubai
http://gulfnews.com/news/uae/society/bo ... -1.1596898
Didn't understand 1 thing... both of the above articles say that SMS stopped in Dubai briefly on 6th October. But he arrives in Houston on 8th October. So where is he for those 2 days?
http://gulfnews.com/news/uae/society/bo ... -1.1596898
Didn't understand 1 thing... both of the above articles say that SMS stopped in Dubai briefly on 6th October. But he arrives in Houston on 8th October. So where is he for those 2 days?
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I presume he would be in London.dawedaar wrote:http://www.khaleejtimes.com/nation/gene ... --in-dubai
http://gulfnews.com/news/uae/society/bo ... -1.1596898
Didn't understand 1 thing... both of the above articles say that SMS stopped in Dubai briefly on 6th October. But he arrives in Houston on 8th October. So where is he for those 2 days?
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Hmm, wonder why the London transit is being kept secret whereas the Dubai transit was all over the media (whatsapp, this forum)...
ghulam muhammed wrote:I presume he would be in London.dawedaar wrote:http://www.khaleejtimes.com/nation/gene ... --in-dubai
http://gulfnews.com/news/uae/society/bo ... -1.1596898
Didn't understand 1 thing... both of the above articles say that SMS stopped in Dubai briefly on 6th October. But he arrives in Houston on 8th October. So where is he for those 2 days?
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I have been told that SMS visit to London is cancelled (maybe now a short transit) because they couldn't get the Londoners go gaga and sign up for ikram and ziyafats - when they first made the call 2 weeks ago. London people are still raving mad over bullying by Jamaat ayaan from last Ramadan and forced maafi.
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Message as recieved:
Moula TUS left for Istanbul(Turkey).
1-1/2 days in Istanbul and then to Dallas to Houston, America.
Dxb programme: Tasses of MSB extension, deedar, namaaz and bayaan mubaraka.
Moula TUS left for Istanbul(Turkey).
1-1/2 days in Istanbul and then to Dallas to Houston, America.
Dxb programme: Tasses of MSB extension, deedar, namaaz and bayaan mubaraka.
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SYEDNA RIVAL QUTBUDDIN TAKES LENIENT STAND ON SERMONS
By Jyoti Shelar, Mumbai Mirror | Oct 8, 2015, 01.36 AM IST
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While the Dawoodi Bohra community's religious leader Syedna Muffaddal Saiffuddin has been in the middle of a controversy for issuing a diktat to strictly attend the 10-day long sermons during Muharram, the rival claimant of the community's leadership, Khuzaima Qutbuddin, issued a lenient order on Wednesday stating that he understands the 'need to balance work and education'.
Qutbuddin emphasised the importance of Muharram and the first 10 days for the renewal of faith and remembrance of Imam Husain in his statement.
"He (Qutbuddin) encourages his followers to fully partake of the blessings of this auspicious occasion but he understands the need for the community members to balance their work and education and therefore has instructed those performing sermons to keep the timing such that will allow community to take maximum benefit and blessing from this occasion, with minimum impact on their work and educational needs," said a statement issued from Qutbuddin's office.
The 10-day period is extremely important for Shia Muslims globally as it marks the martyrdom of Husain, grandson of Muhammad, in the battle of Karbala. The first Muharram sermons will begin from October 14.
"The sermons in Mumbai have been scheduled from 3.30 pm to 6 pm. The timing is such that most working people and students can adjust and try to make it for the sermons," said Aziz, one of Qutbuddin's sons.
The timings of the sermons in other countries have also been scheduled by Qutbuddin's sons keeping in mind the working hours of the people there.
SYEDNA RIVAL QUTBUDDIN TAKES LENIENT STAND ON SERMONS
By Jyoti Shelar, Mumbai Mirror | Oct 8, 2015, 01.36 AM IST
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While the Dawoodi Bohra community's religious leader Syedna Muffaddal Saiffuddin has been in the middle of a controversy for issuing a diktat to strictly attend the 10-day long sermons during Muharram, the rival claimant of the community's leadership, Khuzaima Qutbuddin, issued a lenient order on Wednesday stating that he understands the 'need to balance work and education'.
Qutbuddin emphasised the importance of Muharram and the first 10 days for the renewal of faith and remembrance of Imam Husain in his statement.
"He (Qutbuddin) encourages his followers to fully partake of the blessings of this auspicious occasion but he understands the need for the community members to balance their work and education and therefore has instructed those performing sermons to keep the timing such that will allow community to take maximum benefit and blessing from this occasion, with minimum impact on their work and educational needs," said a statement issued from Qutbuddin's office.
The 10-day period is extremely important for Shia Muslims globally as it marks the martyrdom of Husain, grandson of Muhammad, in the battle of Karbala. The first Muharram sermons will begin from October 14.
"The sermons in Mumbai have been scheduled from 3.30 pm to 6 pm. The timing is such that most working people and students can adjust and try to make it for the sermons," said Aziz, one of Qutbuddin's sons.
The timings of the sermons in other countries have also been scheduled by Qutbuddin's sons keeping in mind the working hours of the people there.
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Bohra e-jamaat cards raise privacy concerns, just like India’s UID
9 Oct 2015 Hindustan Times (Mumbai)MANOJ R NAIR
THE CARDS WERE ISSUED NEARLY A DECADE AGO, BUT RECENTLY THE DOCUMENTS WERE UPGRADED AS ‘SMART CARDS’ WITH THE RADIO-FREQUENCY TECHNOLOGY
India’s Aadhaar card project continues to face logistical and legal hurdles, especially over concerns that it could breach privacy rights.
On Wednesday, the Supreme Court declined to change its own order in August that restricted the card’s use to only track food and cooking gas subsidies. The apex court said a constitutional bench needs to look at the issue whether the biometric card can be linked to other services.
While the country debates the benefits and risks posed by its Unique Identification number (UID) card project, a small but closely-knit sect largely based in western India, too, is arguing over the possibility that the identity cards issued by their religious establishment could be prying into their private lives.
Every member of the Dawoodi Bohra community has to carry what are known as ‘e-jamaat cards’.
The cards were issued nearly a decade ago, but recently the documents were upgraded as ‘ smart cards’ with the incorporation of radio- frequency technology.
The cards are used to record a person’s attendance at community events and to ensure that the holder completes all religious sacraments, including the controversial oath of allegiance to their spiritual leader and religious taxes.
The card is also used to gain access to community mosques, mausoleums and graveyards.
The card will also be used to record the declaration by members to attend the compulsory sermons during the coming period of Muharram.
“The card is expensive [it reportedly costs Rs5,000 to get one], but every Bohra is supposed to have the card if he or she want to access community properties or attend functions,” said a member of the community.
Last week, a group of community members released findings from an annual “Worldwide Survey for Dawoodi Bohras” that tracks opinion about community issues after the death of their last hereditary head, or Syedna, in January 2014.
Mufaddal Saifuddin, the current leader, is his son, but his uncle, Qutbuddin, half- brother of the l ast Syedna, has disputed the succession. The dispute is being heard by the Bombay high court.
While the survey said that there was widespread resentment against the order to attend the sermons, the Syedna’s office has dismissed the survey and said that the views of a few hundred people cannot represent the views in a million-strong community.
The organisers of the survey, on the other hand, have said that the sample survey was designed to have a low margin of error.
The survey has also raised concerns about the e-jamaat cards.
This is what the survey had to say about the document: To study the impact of such practices of intense scrutiny, data mining and intrusion by Syedna’s office, an independent and neutral platform is needed with no ties to its administration.
When this writer contacted the Syedna’s office for a comment, officials there declined to comment, saying they were busy with the preparations for the Muharram discourses.
But the community is rife with rumours that the cards can track every aspect of their lives.
A member of the community who spoke to this writer said there was concern that the card was used to track the whereabouts of members.
“Earlier, it was just an identity card; now it has GPS features,” said the Dawoodi Bohra who was once an ardent supporter of the community religious leadership.
9 Oct 2015 Hindustan Times (Mumbai)MANOJ R NAIR
THE CARDS WERE ISSUED NEARLY A DECADE AGO, BUT RECENTLY THE DOCUMENTS WERE UPGRADED AS ‘SMART CARDS’ WITH THE RADIO-FREQUENCY TECHNOLOGY
India’s Aadhaar card project continues to face logistical and legal hurdles, especially over concerns that it could breach privacy rights.
On Wednesday, the Supreme Court declined to change its own order in August that restricted the card’s use to only track food and cooking gas subsidies. The apex court said a constitutional bench needs to look at the issue whether the biometric card can be linked to other services.
While the country debates the benefits and risks posed by its Unique Identification number (UID) card project, a small but closely-knit sect largely based in western India, too, is arguing over the possibility that the identity cards issued by their religious establishment could be prying into their private lives.
Every member of the Dawoodi Bohra community has to carry what are known as ‘e-jamaat cards’.
The cards were issued nearly a decade ago, but recently the documents were upgraded as ‘ smart cards’ with the incorporation of radio- frequency technology.
The cards are used to record a person’s attendance at community events and to ensure that the holder completes all religious sacraments, including the controversial oath of allegiance to their spiritual leader and religious taxes.
The card is also used to gain access to community mosques, mausoleums and graveyards.
The card will also be used to record the declaration by members to attend the compulsory sermons during the coming period of Muharram.
“The card is expensive [it reportedly costs Rs5,000 to get one], but every Bohra is supposed to have the card if he or she want to access community properties or attend functions,” said a member of the community.
Last week, a group of community members released findings from an annual “Worldwide Survey for Dawoodi Bohras” that tracks opinion about community issues after the death of their last hereditary head, or Syedna, in January 2014.
Mufaddal Saifuddin, the current leader, is his son, but his uncle, Qutbuddin, half- brother of the l ast Syedna, has disputed the succession. The dispute is being heard by the Bombay high court.
While the survey said that there was widespread resentment against the order to attend the sermons, the Syedna’s office has dismissed the survey and said that the views of a few hundred people cannot represent the views in a million-strong community.
The organisers of the survey, on the other hand, have said that the sample survey was designed to have a low margin of error.
The survey has also raised concerns about the e-jamaat cards.
This is what the survey had to say about the document: To study the impact of such practices of intense scrutiny, data mining and intrusion by Syedna’s office, an independent and neutral platform is needed with no ties to its administration.
When this writer contacted the Syedna’s office for a comment, officials there declined to comment, saying they were busy with the preparations for the Muharram discourses.
But the community is rife with rumours that the cards can track every aspect of their lives.
A member of the community who spoke to this writer said there was concern that the card was used to track the whereabouts of members.
“Earlier, it was just an identity card; now it has GPS features,” said the Dawoodi Bohra who was once an ardent supporter of the community religious leadership.
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In bohra cult, only the bohra 1st family have rights to privacy. The abde slaves have no privacy rights. So sorry, we dont give a damn about this article.
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Bohra e-jamaat cards raise privacy concerns, just like India’s UID
9 Oct 2015 Hindustan Times (Mumbai)MANOJ R NAIR
THE CARDS WERE ISSUED NEARLY A DECADE AGO, BUT RECENTLY THE DOCUMENTS WERE UPGRADED AS ‘SMART CARDS’ WITH THE RADIO-FREQUENCY TECHNOLOGY
India’s Aadhaar card project continues to face logistical and legal hurdles, especially over concerns that it could breach privacy rights.
On Wednesday, the Supreme Court declined to change its own order in August that restricted the card’s use to only track food and cooking gas subsidies. The apex court said a constitutional bench needs to look at the issue whether the biometric card can be linked to other services.
While the country debates the benefits and risks posed by its Unique Identification number (UID) card project, a small but closely-knit sect largely based in western India, too, is arguing over the possibility that the identity cards issued by their religious establishment could be prying into their private lives.
Every member of the Dawoodi Bohra community has to carry what are known as ‘e-jamaat cards’.
The cards were issued nearly a decade ago, but recently the documents were upgraded as ‘ smart cards’ with the incorporation of radio- frequency technology.
The cards are used to record a person’s attendance at community events and to ensure that the holder completes all religious sacraments, including the controversial oath of allegiance to their spiritual leader and religious taxes.
The card is also used to gain access to community mosques, mausoleums and graveyards.
The card will also be used to record the declaration by members to attend the compulsory sermons during the coming period of Muharram.
“The card is expensive [it reportedly costs Rs5,000 to get one], but every Bohra is supposed to have the card if he or she want to access community properties or attend functions,” said a member of the community.
Last week, a group of community members released findings from an annual “Worldwide Survey for Dawoodi Bohras” that tracks opinion about community issues after the death of their last hereditary head, or Syedna, in January 2014.
Mufaddal Saifuddin, the current leader, is his son, but his uncle, Qutbuddin, half- brother of the l ast Syedna, has disputed the succession. The dispute is being heard by the Bombay high court.
While the survey said that there was widespread resentment against the order to attend the sermons, the Syedna’s office has dismissed the survey and said that the views of a few hundred people cannot represent the views in a million-strong community.
The organisers of the survey, on the other hand, have said that the sample survey was designed to have a low margin of error.
The survey has also raised concerns about the e-jamaat cards.
This is what the survey had to say about the document: To study the impact of such practices of intense scrutiny, data mining and intrusion by Syedna’s office, an independent and neutral platform is needed with no ties to its administration.
When this writer contacted the Syedna’s office for a comment, officials there declined to comment, saying they were busy with the preparations for the Muharram discourses.
But the community is rife with rumours that the cards can track every aspect of their lives.
A member of the community who spoke to this writer said there was concern that the card was used to track the whereabouts of members.
“Earlier, it was just an identity card; now it has GPS features,” said the Dawoodi Bohra who was once an ardent supporter of the community religious leadership.
9 Oct 2015 Hindustan Times (Mumbai)MANOJ R NAIR
THE CARDS WERE ISSUED NEARLY A DECADE AGO, BUT RECENTLY THE DOCUMENTS WERE UPGRADED AS ‘SMART CARDS’ WITH THE RADIO-FREQUENCY TECHNOLOGY
India’s Aadhaar card project continues to face logistical and legal hurdles, especially over concerns that it could breach privacy rights.
On Wednesday, the Supreme Court declined to change its own order in August that restricted the card’s use to only track food and cooking gas subsidies. The apex court said a constitutional bench needs to look at the issue whether the biometric card can be linked to other services.
While the country debates the benefits and risks posed by its Unique Identification number (UID) card project, a small but closely-knit sect largely based in western India, too, is arguing over the possibility that the identity cards issued by their religious establishment could be prying into their private lives.
Every member of the Dawoodi Bohra community has to carry what are known as ‘e-jamaat cards’.
The cards were issued nearly a decade ago, but recently the documents were upgraded as ‘ smart cards’ with the incorporation of radio- frequency technology.
The cards are used to record a person’s attendance at community events and to ensure that the holder completes all religious sacraments, including the controversial oath of allegiance to their spiritual leader and religious taxes.
The card is also used to gain access to community mosques, mausoleums and graveyards.
The card will also be used to record the declaration by members to attend the compulsory sermons during the coming period of Muharram.
“The card is expensive [it reportedly costs Rs5,000 to get one], but every Bohra is supposed to have the card if he or she want to access community properties or attend functions,” said a member of the community.
Last week, a group of community members released findings from an annual “Worldwide Survey for Dawoodi Bohras” that tracks opinion about community issues after the death of their last hereditary head, or Syedna, in January 2014.
Mufaddal Saifuddin, the current leader, is his son, but his uncle, Qutbuddin, half- brother of the l ast Syedna, has disputed the succession. The dispute is being heard by the Bombay high court.
While the survey said that there was widespread resentment against the order to attend the sermons, the Syedna’s office has dismissed the survey and said that the views of a few hundred people cannot represent the views in a million-strong community.
The organisers of the survey, on the other hand, have said that the sample survey was designed to have a low margin of error.
The survey has also raised concerns about the e-jamaat cards.
This is what the survey had to say about the document: To study the impact of such practices of intense scrutiny, data mining and intrusion by Syedna’s office, an independent and neutral platform is needed with no ties to its administration.
When this writer contacted the Syedna’s office for a comment, officials there declined to comment, saying they were busy with the preparations for the Muharram discourses.
But the community is rife with rumours that the cards can track every aspect of their lives.
A member of the community who spoke to this writer said there was concern that the card was used to track the whereabouts of members.
“Earlier, it was just an identity card; now it has GPS features,” said the Dawoodi Bohra who was once an ardent supporter of the community religious leadership.
Re: Dawoodi Bohras in the media - 2015
Dahod bohra oops Gheta get ready for slaughtered. Already talk of town that each family have to contribute 53000 rupees.
And all after that it will become mola ni property
And all after that it will become mola ni property
Re: Dawoodi Bohras in the media - 2015
Again this hospital wont be help to poor, I suggest all bohras who are planning to contribute that take in written from them that poor will be treated for free and it wont become 5 star hotel for rich.bohrabhai wrote:Dahod bohra oops Gheta get ready for slaughtered. Already talk of town that each family have to contribute 53000 rupees.
And all after that it will become mola ni property
Re: Dawoodi Bohras in the media - 2015
You must be on Cannabis to think that Kothari Mafia will give them anything in writing or even verbalI suggest all bohras who are planning to contribute that take in written from them that poor will be treated for free and it wont become 5 star hotel for rich.
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One held for creating woman's fake FB profile
SURAT: A 25-year-old man was arrested by crime branch sleuths for allegedly creating a fake Facebook (FB) profile of a woman with her photos and chatting with her online friends with the intention to malign her image in public.
The woman in her complaint lodged at Athwa police station on January 9, 2015 against an unidentified person had said the profile was created without her knowledge and that she came to know about it from friends.
Adnan Ammar Lokhandwala was arrested from city on Monday for allegedly creating the fake Facebook profile page of the woman. Police retrieved the IP address of the computer which was used to create the profile and seized a laptop and a mobile phone from Lokhandwala utilized by him for this and also chatting. Police investigation revealed that the accused used to chat online through this fake Facebook profile.
"Preliminary investigation revealed that the Facebook profile of the woman was created and photos used to malign her image. More details will be collected during the investigation," said M S Shaikh, police inspector, detection of crime branch.
Lokhandwala has been handed over to Athwa police station. Police are yet to find out from where he had sourced the complainant's photos.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 335072.cms
SURAT: A 25-year-old man was arrested by crime branch sleuths for allegedly creating a fake Facebook (FB) profile of a woman with her photos and chatting with her online friends with the intention to malign her image in public.
The woman in her complaint lodged at Athwa police station on January 9, 2015 against an unidentified person had said the profile was created without her knowledge and that she came to know about it from friends.
Adnan Ammar Lokhandwala was arrested from city on Monday for allegedly creating the fake Facebook profile page of the woman. Police retrieved the IP address of the computer which was used to create the profile and seized a laptop and a mobile phone from Lokhandwala utilized by him for this and also chatting. Police investigation revealed that the accused used to chat online through this fake Facebook profile.
"Preliminary investigation revealed that the Facebook profile of the woman was created and photos used to malign her image. More details will be collected during the investigation," said M S Shaikh, police inspector, detection of crime branch.
Lokhandwala has been handed over to Athwa police station. Police are yet to find out from where he had sourced the complainant's photos.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 335072.cms