what should be done!!!

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Dua for Momeen
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what should be done!!!

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Unread post by Dua for Momeen » Sun May 22, 2016 6:52 am

All praise to ALLAH alone.

I got number of PM asking me if both contenders are liars then what is the solution?

Well here is my opinion.

Dawat has lost its sanctity long back since taher saifuddin started hoarding money for himself and his family, and now bohras have become abdes of this family rather than followers of Islam and ahlul bayt. it is open truth that all these recent people in dawat worked for their own agenda and left dawat and islam long back. money has become first priority and every thing else including farizat in islam as secondary.

we cant keep any hope on this people any more, only solution to this problem is denying these both contenders of dai chair and bring democracy in dawat, chose some third person for a fix term and a board of scholars should be form who will guide people. just like Catholics.

this is the only way to come out of mess created by this family.

qutub_mamajiwala
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Re: what should be done!!!

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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Sun May 22, 2016 7:46 am

there is a new group also formed, recently which have weekly and monthly meeting
last meeting was in pune.
bohras for a change.
u can join this group.
search fb for this.

Dua for Momeen
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Re: what should be done!!!

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Unread post by Dua for Momeen » Sun May 22, 2016 10:13 am

qutub_mamajiwala wrote:there is a new group also formed, recently which have weekly and monthly meeting
last meeting was in pune.
bohras for a change.
u can join this group.
search fb for this.
salam brother can you please post the link?

Roark
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Re: what should be done!!!

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Unread post by Roark » Sun May 22, 2016 1:51 pm

I am also the member of this new group Bohras for Change and it is a closed group I would check up with the administrator how the link can be posted and interested members of this forum can join

think
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Re: what should be done!!!

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Unread post by think » Mon May 23, 2016 9:59 am

yes, everyone wants to follow the path that will lead to heaven in the hereafter. How can we find that path. who is right and who is wrong? where does it end. Are all chistians who believe in the coming of essa nabi and lead them to heaven are all wrong. Are all the sunnis wrong for following the three before moula Ali. Are khojas wrong for not fasting because their imam says so, Are shia ishna ashari wrong in waiting for their 12 th imam. Since nabis and imams had 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and even upto 57 wives, then would it be o.k. to have a few wives from punjabi descent , so one gets a lot of dowry and enjoys life. would it be right and just in the rules of Allah? Who is to decide between right and wrong when the very fabric of trust and confidence of a mumin is betrayed by the bari mullas mafia and his zadas. If one looks at5 their lives, then they have more problems amongst trhemselves than an ordinary mumin. One relative cussing another relative, burning effigies, and on and on. where will it end. What indeed is the path of sirat ul mastakeem to lead one to heaven?

Dua for Momeen
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Re: what should be done!!!

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Unread post by Dua for Momeen » Mon May 23, 2016 12:12 pm

think wrote:yes, everyone wants to follow the path that will lead to heaven in the hereafter. How can we find that path. who is right and who is wrong? where does it end. Are all chistians who believe in the coming of essa nabi and lead them to heaven are all wrong. Are all the sunnis wrong for following the three before moula Ali. Are khojas wrong for not fasting because their imam says so, Are shia ishna ashari wrong in waiting for their 12 th imam. Since nabis and imams had 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and even upto 57 wives, then would it be o.k. to have a few wives from punjabi descent , so one gets a lot of dowry and enjoys life. would it be right and just in the rules of Allah? Who is to decide between right and wrong when the very fabric of trust and confidence of a mumin is betrayed by the bari mullas mafia and his zadas. If one looks at5 their lives, then they have more problems amongst trhemselves than an ordinary mumin. One relative cussing another relative, burning effigies, and on and on. where will it end. What indeed is the path of sirat ul mastakeem to lead one to heaven?
well I understand your point, but unfortunately this is all bound to happen and there is hadith which says this is all signs of last days, so right now its best for a momeen to take middle path (not the extreme one not the dull one) and just pass days waiting for help from Allah subhanu which is promised in Al Quran.

JC
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Re: what should be done!!!

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Unread post by JC » Mon May 23, 2016 4:36 pm

Seek the truth, believe in yourself .......... if you do not intend to, and nor do you, bring destruction to property or danger to anybody's life, do and act according to your conscious.

confusedlady123
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Re: what should be done!!!

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Unread post by confusedlady123 » Tue May 24, 2016 2:00 am

qutub_mamajiwala wrote:there is a new group also formed, recently which have weekly and monthly meeting
last meeting was in pune.
bohras for a change.
u can join this group.
search fb for this.
This is some good news. Its like ,when the British ruled India and freedom fighters gathered in secret places and discussed their agenda.Discussing on the forum by remaining anonymous to one another with similar views does serve the purpose but not very effectively.
There should be meetings where like freedom fighters distribute pamphlets and "make some noise to let the deaf clergy hear"
Maybe one day just like how India was liberated even bohras will be liberated. And finally the clergy will realise that "havey Khairaat par nai rehvai"