Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

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Re: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

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Unread post by think » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:30 pm

simply put The gham for Imam hussain has been changed to a vacation for bohris. different countries to go to every year. eat drink and do shopping.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Sep 20, 2016 5:39 pm

Collection Drive starts before Mohurrum Tamasha ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9_oReC ... e=youtu.be

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Tue Sep 20, 2016 5:46 pm

since it is HALAL for the murderer muffadal moron to do shikar of wild and endangered species of wildlife in africa: elephants, lions, cheetah, leopards, water buffalo etc, it has been decided that this ashura the blood-thirsty mufaddal will spend a few days in advance of the ashura tamasha and picnic in tanzania. frantic war-like preparations are underway for his hunting and killing spree with luxurious tents, vehicles, high-powered telescopic rifles, bohra caterers and large reefer trucks so that all the tons of meat stripped from the carcasses of these magnificent animals can be stored at frozen temperatures. this meat will then be used during the moharram niyaz jamans and fed to fawning abdes/amtes.

bohra caterers, superbly supported by african chefs, have been ordered to conjure up innovative dishes using these meats. it is reliably learnt that elephant no sukko gosh, lion biryani, buffalo aaloo kheema, leopard ni tarkari, hyena nihari, wild boar haleem etc are being fine tuned for abde palettes. giraffe paya and vulture kebabs are among the other possibilities being strongly considered. a recipe of ice-cold sherbet from diluted cow's blood (a la' the masai) tempered with choke-choke and passion fruit has already been perfected.

for dessert, hippo cream na saghla baghla, rhino na honey-sweetened penda, ostrich na beda no mehsub, rabbit no mithho halwo etc are on the cards.

all fanatic abdes/amtes who vehemently and vociferously support their waqa mola's hunting should have no qualms about wolfing down these exotic dishes in the name of imam hussain and the band of 72 who perished most miserably on the hot plains of kerbala. if mola can delight in shikar, then surely abdes will delight even more, nay, they will rejoice in savouring the dishes for which mola himself has done such hard work? this is the first time in the annals of moharram that bohras will tanawul such noorani and mubarak food, personally and graciously provided for them by the beshumaar ehsaan ane karamaat of their waqa mola..

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Sep 20, 2016 5:49 pm

Ill effects of forced crying .

सबूत के मुताबिक़ ज़बरदस्ती रोने से डिप्रेशन's के दौरे पड़ने लगते हैं और ज़िंदगी के Challenges का सामना करने की ताक़त जाती रहती है। यही Scientific मालूमात मोमिनोका आज और बच्चों का Future कंट्रोल करने के लिए इस्तेमाल हो रहा है। ऐसे अमल से बच्चों का दिमाग़ Permanently Damage किया जा रहा है। ये इस लिए ज़रूरी हो गया है के Educated बोहरों ने FGM ( औरतों की ख़तना ) कराना बंद कर दिया है और इसका Ban होने के भी इमकान है। इसी बेहूदा और भयानक Practice के ज़रिए बड़ी कामयाबी से एक बुज़दिल और बायली नस्ल त्यार की गयी। मगर अब फ़िक्र Future की है। नयी नयी तरकीबें सोची जा रही है ग़ुलामी बरक़रार रखने की। रोटी का पागलपन भी इसी दिशा में एक कोशिश रही है। अब घर घर में घुस कर लोगों को रोने पर मजबूर किया जा रहा है। इसे Joke मत समझिए, इसके पीछे छुपे हुए इरादे को समझिए। आप के बच्चे खुदा का दिया हुआ फूल जैसा तोहफ़ा है। इन पर रहम करो, इन्हें ऐसी हैवानियत से बचा लो। बचा लो उनको उस Psychological कसाई खाने से जिस का नाम मदरसा है।

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Unread post by Kaka Akela » Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:44 pm

I see a lot of people are making fun of "rova jeyvu mooh banawanu" without knowing the basis for the dai to say that. Let me explain that this is from a hadees of Rasulullah SA in which he uses 3 words about crying. 1) Baka = rovanu 2) Abka = rulavanu 3) Tabaka = rova jeyvu mooh banawanu . The meaning of whole hadees is if you do any of the above 3 things, you become eligible for entering the jannat.

Please understand this and do not make fun of the hadees while trying to make fun of Dai. There are enough thing the Dai does which are open to criticism and mockery but you have to know which one to pick on.

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Unread post by juzer esmail » Wed Sep 21, 2016 12:20 am

Have you heard the Muffy audio being played during Majlis in each and every house? Leave aside the Hadees, it may be true, but Muffy says if you question his rova jevu moh claim you belong to the toli of Yazeed. Is this what Rasulallah SAW meant?
Also why artificial and forced crying?
Why we are the only qaum on earth who invokes the name of Yazeed the maximum number of times?

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Unread post by I Rizwan » Wed Sep 21, 2016 12:48 am

force crying will do permanent damage on your brain, specially your kids brain. believe it or not this is not a good idea.

know your Imam and I am sure that will make your heart cry by it self without any force.

muffy dont want you to know your Imam he just wants shorgul and matam voice thinking he is great waezin.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Sep 21, 2016 5:43 pm

Kaka Akela wrote:I see a lot of people are making fun of "rova jeyvu mooh banawanu" without knowing the basis for the dai to say that. Let me explain that this is from a hadees of Rasulullah SA in which he uses 3 words about crying. 1) Baka = rovanu 2) Abka = rulavanu 3) Tabaka = rova jeyvu mooh banawanu . The meaning of whole hadees is if you do any of the above 3 things, you become eligible for entering the jannat.

Please understand this and do not make fun of the hadees while trying to make fun of Dai. There are enough thing the Dai does which are open to criticism and mockery but you have to know which one to pick on.
Bro Kaka Akela,

You may have quoted a proper Hadith but it would be beneficial for all if you could explain in detail the time and context in which this statement was made by Prophet (s.a.w.). There are many statements made by Prophet (s.a.w.) as also Quranic verses which are taken out of context by vested interests to fulfill their personal agendas.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Sep 21, 2016 5:48 pm

watsup msg :

Forwarded as Received :-

Bushra Bushra Bushra !!!

Sidhpur nu naam Guinness book of world records maa nondhaayu che !! Duniya na koi desh ya koi shaher maatey aatli moti sankhiya maa train tickets ek aj divas maa cancel nathi thai !!

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Unread post by SBM » Wed Sep 21, 2016 5:56 pm

Br Kaka Akela
So a person may be eligible for Jannat if he makes RJM and he does not have to worry about five pillars of ISlam, No wonder Bohras are always crying while making excuses of KASAR Namaz for not fasting during the month of Ramadan

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Sep 21, 2016 6:14 pm

watsup msg :

Forwarded as Received :-

WHY ASHARA IS "MUBARAK" FOR MOLA ?

Since previous many years Muffy and Toli have made Ashara Mubarak for themselves as at the end of the 10 day circus they collect crores of rupees under various dubious schemes (Scams). Every year they come out with newer ideas to loot fanatic bohras who come to see Muffy circus.

This year they have tied up with a low cost carrier Ethiopian Airlines which will charge them Rs.16,500/- for Mumbai to Dar e Salam as the airline has been assured of bulk bookings, the type of which this African airlines has not encountered anytime before. The vested interests are hand in gloves with Muffy's brothers and the ticket rate has shot up to Rs.80,000/- ONLY. Grapevine is that Qaid Chor and Muffy's other brothers are earning Rs.60,000/- from each bohra and as per estimates, around 50,000 people will be flying from Mumbai to watch this circus. Hence, 50,000 bohras x Rs.60,000/- = Rs.300 crores !! Wow now that's REAL Ashara MUBARAK for these CHORS.

To achieve the above target, they send messages through Shiat e Ali and Tanzeem committees that Bohras along with their families including young children have to attend IJTIMA in which they will explain the importance of viewing the circus live and in this manner the brain dead bohras will be ready to spend hefty amounts and Muffy and gang will then laugh all the way to the bank.

For all those who want to go and enjoy African Safari can do so after the 16th when fare of Ethiopian Airlines is less then Rs.18,000/-.

Haa but circus jovu che to shell out more money ! Tamara Mola ghana khush thasey !

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Unread post by think » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:35 pm

yes it is truly a vacation for bohris in the name of gham of imam hussain. Before the plane tickets, tours and safari booking are at peak.
when Ashura was held in Houston , America, the same happened. Bohris got their visa and came to Houston to attend Ashura but instead , as soon as they landed they had their own agenda to tour America. They did not attend even a single majlis. How does one know this; because of their I.T.S. cards. Based on their cards they came to states but then not even once were their I.T.s. cards swiped by the jamaat showing their attendance in masjid.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Sep 22, 2016 4:36 pm

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Unread post by objectiveobserver53 » Thu Sep 22, 2016 5:07 pm

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:55 pm

watsup msg :

Forwarded as Received :-

The Jamaat in Tanzania is the only Jamaat which is rich in Gold and dollar donations (Loot).... It is reported that as Tanzania has strict laws on taxation... money cannot be easily transferred to any other country through legal channels and hence it was obvious that all the collected Loot would attract heavy tax.... so to avoid tax and bring the Loot to India in guise of religious donations (which is exempted in tax) this whole exercise of Ashara Mubaraka was conceived and executed to perfection... This Loot could be brought anytime, so why now ??... The answer is simple... You can transfer the Loot once a year or max twice to avoid suspicion, also imagine sending this Loot to London/Dubai first and then transferring it to India through the nefarious but highly secure method called "Hawala". The cost then is almost 10% of the amount, now when the amount is in millions then the 10% cut for transfer translates into a huge sum... almost 100 crores... So wouldn't it be simple to organise and take advantage of this holy month of Mohurrum and bring the cash and gold to India..... The son of Qaid Johar BS had a block booking done of tickets to Dar-e-Salam 7 days prior to the Mubarak announcement.... Money is the ONLY reason why we are fooled and led to believe the sanctity and Afzalus Idhara of our beloved Dai....

Na biwi na baccha
Na baap badha na maiyya
The whole thing is that ke
Bhaiyya Sabse Bada Rupaiya.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:00 pm

Forwarded as Received :-

Vayez in Mohurrum 1438 H :

Syedi Mukasir saheb in Chennai
Shz Aliasger BS Kalimuddin in Kuwait
Shz Ammar BS in Karbala
Shz Malik BS Shujauddin in Houston

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Unread post by think » Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:59 am

certainly, it is food for thought. Easy money shifting could very well be the reason why Daresalam.And also that the tanzinian leadership has no problem in accepting bribes .

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Unread post by humanbeing » Sun Sep 25, 2016 7:30 am

Kaka Akela wrote:I see a lot of people are making fun of "rova jeyvu mooh banawanu" without knowing the basis for the dai to say that. Let me explain that this is from a hadees of Rasulullah SA in which he uses 3 words about crying. 1) Baka = rovanu 2) Abka = rulavanu 3) Tabaka = rova jeyvu mooh banawanu . The meaning of whole hadees is if you do any of the above 3 things, you become eligible for entering the jannat.

Please understand this and do not make fun of the hadees while trying to make fun of Dai. There are enough thing the Dai does which are open to criticism and mockery but you have to know which one to pick on.
I once heard a hadees from the very own Kothari agentl describing one of the incidents that happened with prophet. Imam Ali informed Prophet Muhammed that his son did not survive the birth- something like that. Hearing this news Prophet Muhammed was sad. Imam Ali consoling the prophet asked him to share his grief and cry it out to which Prophet replied that he is so sad and broken, that can be compared with breaking down of a mountain. But he kept his poise as he believed that his son life or death was Allah’s decision and one must not wail, whine, howl and yell on an event of death, which is Haq for everyone.

Loosing a loved one is indeed painful and difficult to not express grief and sadness. But what kothar is doing sick and disgusting. Rova-jevu-moo has reduced to a joke. The very idea of saying one must make rova-jevu-moo sounds absurd. If one cries or makes other cry in an honest intent is sufficient that a person will have a naturally rova-jevu-moo, then there is no point of “Tabaka = rova jeyvu mooh banawanu” the very statement advises to be fake !!!

IMO- sadness, grief, crying and tears should be a private moment of realization, empathy or compassion, at most they should be shared in trust and dignity. Wailing, howling, chest beating is a self centered, self deceptive dramabazi !

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Unread post by Justbeliever » Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:21 am

Sidhpur na vatni o.

Moharram ne lai ne apnu gam bahu charchit banyu. Khub dhan vedfayu. Aa badhuj aaje jaruratmand mate kharchi sakate pan afsos evu na thayu. Bhaibandh kom apni uper hase che.Aa badha tamasha na jimmedar sou thi phela Sayedna Muffadal saheb ganay. Jo teo e dirgha drashti vapri ne agau thi venue jaher karyu hote to kom nu dhan kom ni kher khani ma upayog thayu hote.

Sayedna ni dhan ni laalache alag alag gam na logo ma compitition ni race lagavi ane varam var sayedul kher jeva dalalo marfat arji na khel kari karodon moula e ghar bhega kari lidha.

Aa badha natak ma apane badha ek piyada bani rahya. Koi ye ek messages compose karyo ane postman ni faraz bajaw ta hoi em faravta rahi ya. Koi apane murkh banave che, apne use kare che te no ehsaas pan apne na thayo. Ek mohti cheating apna sathe thai ane apne unghta rahiya.

Jena paisa che te kharche che, kharach wa do , apna bap nu su jai che? Apne to bas tamaso jo wa no. Mota bhag na apane avuj vicharta hoi che. Pan bhaiyo jo tame undan thi vichar so to apna paisa pan dhul ma jai che. Apane sabil bhari ye che. Varam var ugraana o thai che. Apni marji na hova chahta apne samil thayu padeche. Apna bachcha o ne varam var salam,vajebat ke bija koi bhane rupiye lavanu kheva ma ave che. Apne badha apna bachcha o ne madarsa ma jalil karse ke barat karse eva dar thi mangi lavi ne pan rupiya api avi ye che.

Koi farishta avse aane apane aa ajab thi bachav se evi juthi aasa o ma jivi rahya che, pan aa logo ni chungal mathi bahar nikal vano ek pan prayaas karta nathi.

Apna mathi mota bhag na logo jannat ni khoti aasa o ne manta nathi. Ek bija na vach ma charcha jarur kariya che. Mola ane amil ni firki pan utari ye che. Pan aa logo na modha upar kheva ni himmat jatavi shakta nathi. Te o apni murkhai uper jarur hasta hase!

Su aano koi ilaj nathi?

Jarur che. Sanghatit thai sangarsh kar vani. Koi sathe na aave to kai nahi. Akela virodh karo. Tamari himmat joi logo sathe tha se. Agar nahi pan thai to tamne jarur faydo tha se. Tamara rupiya no sadupyog tame karso. Ane amil Tamara thi darta rehse. Mayyet vagere samay ma himmat rakhso to ghana tamari madadee avse. Ger kom ke media ke police ni pan help lai sakay. Koi pan raza mate Amil pase jav to kavar vagar salam karo. Sabil ma vadhara no virodh karo. Karden hasanah na var tehvare paisa apvanu bandh karo. apas ma mali karden hasanah ni society banavo. te mate koi raza ni jarur nathi. jo aa rite sathe tha so ane dar ne baju muk so to tamaro bal pan vako nahi kari sake.

Je logo hal ohbat na na me rupiya no dhumado karyon em ne appeal che ke khuda e tam ne dhan thi navajiya che e no sadupyog karo. Moharram Sidhpur ma na tha yu e ne Allah no sanket samjho. Tamara 100 carod bachi gaya. Sidhpur ni tarakki kavani vat karo aa rupaya kharchon. Vocational education aapavi koine entrepreneur banavi bhavishya sudharo. Medical help aapi koi ni zindagi bacha o. Beghar o mate ghar banavo. School ma garib no bachcho unchu mathu rakhi ne bhani sake evu vatavaran banavo. Mola pase vajebat, galla vagere ni bharpur income che. Tema thi tem ni family eishs o aram kare che. Tem ne badhu api wathare bagar wani jarur nathi.

Mehrbani karine ha ve avta varsh moharram no khayal na karta. Ane have jo evu karso to logo ne mathu uthavva tame majboor kar so eni nondh leso.

ha ve pachi jo Amil ke Ayan Mola ne Sidhpur bolavvani vat kare to sampurn non-cooperation ni jumbesh uthavo.

Mola kai Sidhpur ma barakat nahi lave, e lai jase. Apne jate mehnat karsu ane apni roti kamavani himmat karsu to Khuda apna aap madad karse. Moula jeva dalalo ni jarur nathi.

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Re: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

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Unread post by allbird » Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:29 am

humanbeing wrote:
Kaka Akela wrote:I see a lot of people are making fun of "rova jeyvu mooh banawanu" without knowing the basis for the dai to say that. Let me explain that this is from a hadees of Rasulullah SA in which he uses 3 words about crying. 1) Baka = rovanu 2) Abka = rulavanu 3) Tabaka = rova jeyvu mooh banawanu . The meaning of whole hadees is if you do any of the above 3 things, you become eligible for entering the jannat.

Please understand this and do not make fun of the hadees while trying to make fun of Dai. There are enough thing the Dai does which are open to criticism and mockery but you have to know which one to pick on.
I once heard a hadees from the very own Kothari agentl describing one of the incidents that happened with prophet. Imam Ali informed Prophet Muhammed that his son did not survive the birth- something like that. Hearing this news Prophet Muhammed was sad. Imam Ali consoling the prophet asked him to share his grief and cry it out to which Prophet replied that he is so sad and broken, that can be compared with breaking down of a mountain. But he kept his poise as he believed that his son life or death was Allah’s decision and one must not wail, whine, howl and yell on an event of death, which is Haq for everyone.

Loosing a loved one is indeed painful and difficult to not express grief and sadness. But what kothar is doing sick and disgusting. Rova-jevu-moo has reduced to a joke. The very idea of saying one must make rova-jevu-moo sounds absurd. If one cries or makes other cry in an honest intent is sufficient that a person will have a naturally rova-jevu-moo, then there is no point of “Tabaka = rova jeyvu mooh banawanu” the very statement advises to be fake !!!

IMO- sadness, grief, crying and tears should be a private moment of realization, empathy or compassion, at most they should be shared in trust and dignity. Wailing, howling, chest beating is a self centered, self deceptive dramabazi !



I though all this happens with Ilham from Imam uz Zaman..... ? and that was what's being said to me. Secondly the crying for Imam Husain shahadat and pressure on the kids comes from one of the ladies Shazadis Mariamben saheb who started this Ahh...no naro and crying out wailing ad crying.
I see this scenario whenever i visit shia Waaz where they turn off the light during shaam e Gariba and kids as well as grown up wail. AND I AM SURE OUR MOULA didn't teach them. It seems Shia Muslims are teaching our moula about crying. "Aa rouwana koi hamne sheekhawu, apna Moula Aka ai haam Ghunagaruo ne"

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Unread post by juzer esmail » Mon Sep 26, 2016 11:05 am

Thanks just believer for airing your views. A very well written piece. I hope it gets widely circulated.

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Unread post by Taqdeer » Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:19 am

As Received on Whatsapp....

Mubarak 1438 Ashara Finally in Daresalaam.
Mubarak to Taiyabli Hamzabhia Patanwala finally he did it. He has been Amil of Daresalaam since past 19 years. Looted the community for the past 19 years and now forced Aliqadar to perform Ashara in Daresalaam. Yes my fellow muminin he has forced Aliqadar to perform Ashara here. Taiyabli is a very shrewd and money minded businessman he has made a good fortune in past 19 years. His estimated income per year is $500,000 yes people you are reading it right!!!! $500,000 per year and top of it he does not have a single penny expense. Even under garments of his and his family are paid by Daresalaam. Taiyabli in his tenure of 19 years has not performed a single ziyafat. Yes guys!!! His daughter and son got married during his tenure in Daresalaam he did darees at jamat expense and in return he got wealthy gifts. He has looted sona ni ghini from the muminin in the name of najwa. He has looted muninin in the name of vajebaat, sabeel and ziyafat. He has sold the paghris to mashaikhs at $100,000. Ratio of mashaiks in highest in Daresalaam compared to any other Dawoodi Bohra residing cities in the world. He has done business in the name of Dawat.
He owns posh properties in the UK, Dubai, Mumbai, Surat and other parts of the world. He is one of the richest Amils or we could say THE RICHEST AMIL. He and his team of goons have finally forced Aliqadar to perform Ashara in Daresalaam. 80% of the mumin in Daresalaam are still not willing to participate in this but Taiyabli and his goons wants it. They want to loot the mumin of Daresalaam. The economy of Tanzania is facing hard time and him and his goons are having hard time earning money. Ashara is the only way to earn money. People in Tanzania are having really hard time earning money and Taiyabli again in the name of Ashara 1438 looting people. Him and his goons are now demanding Tshs. 553,000.00 per family for Ashara contribution. Ashara 1438 in Daresalaam is a jackpot for Taiyabli and his goons. Muminins are being summoned to his office to pay Ashara contribution . Forced and harassed. This is too much muminin. He has looted Daresalaam for 19 years and he wants to loot more. He has become so powerful that even Aliqadar has no say to Taiyabali’s decision. Ashara 1438 was well announced in AUGUST 2016. Tanzanian newspapers had already published that Bohra’s are gathering in October 2016 for their big meeting. This says that Ashara 1438 was not announced by the Ilham of Imam uz zamaan but forcefully announced buy Taiyabali Patanwala’s regime.
Taiyabli is forcing people in Daresalaam to go against Dawat. I am not a supporter of Dawedar and I am never going to support him but if Taiyabli continues being greedy Amil of Daresalaam soon muminin will start losing their faith in Dawoodi bohra religion.
Forward this message as much as you can so that it reaches higher authorities in India and they take action against the Dacoit Taiyabli Hamzabhai Patanwala and his gang of goons.
Ahsanteni Sanaa!!
FINALLY GOOD LUCK IN PAYING IN THE NAME OF ASHARA 1438. DUA MA YAAD. EK MUMIN MUKHLIS.

berasiawala
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Re: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

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Unread post by berasiawala » Tue Sep 27, 2016 7:23 am

The guardian newspaper does not have a date. Request the person who have uploaded this paper to upload it again with a date section also so that it makes it clear how many days/months ago this was announced there and people were fooled elsewhere

think
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Re: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

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Unread post by think » Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:33 pm

Here is one big crook of the community exposed. Do the mumineen of Tanzania have no spine to be slaves of this patan bazi. Rise mumineen and show this patanwala that power is in unity of the mumineen. How in this advanced civilized world can you have such a dictaor amongst you and ruling you for 19 years without anyone complaining to the higher ups in Mumbai. i.e. the vazarat. Shame on the mumineen of Daresalam and shame on Patanwala The system of muffy mafia sucks.There is also wild looting in Karachi, London and elsewhere.

seeker110
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Re: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

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Unread post by seeker110 » Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:49 pm

what if we invite a sheeple family to join you in the Shia ImamBara for majlis. I am planing to take this family for majlis, they maynot understand much, non Urdu and what not. I plan to explain as much on the ride back. By the way, as far as organized religion, I am free range.

bohrabhai
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Re: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

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Unread post by bohrabhai » Wed Sep 28, 2016 3:45 am

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Re: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

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Unread post by gulam_parinda » Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:34 am

Aa sikka daressLam maa janara darek ne moula tarafsi puregold naa milse... :( :?:
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gulam_parinda
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Re: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

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Unread post by gulam_parinda » Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:36 am

*मोहर्रम :- रस्म नहीं,इबादत है।*

आज कपड़े की दुकान पर एक इशतेहार लगा देखा, जिसपे लिखा था कि, *मोहर्रम स्पेशल सूट*।
पढ़कर थोड़ा अजीब लगा, लेकिन फिर महेसूस हुआ कि इसमें ग़लती दुकान वाले कि नहीं है, बल्कि ग़लती तो हमारी है, क्योंकि हमनें बे-गोरो-कफ़न की याद में मोहर्रम मनाने का तरीक़ा बदल दिया है।

एक सूट जुलुस के लिये, एक शब्बेदारी के लिये, एक मजलिस के लिये और एक घर में पहनने के लिये बनवाने लगे।
ग़में हुसैन(अ) मनाने का तरीक़ा बदल दिया।

मोहर्रम कोई ख़ुशी का मुक़ाम नहीं है, कोई त्योहार नहीं है, कोई ईद नहीं है, बल्कि मोहर्रम ग़म से मनसूब है, इमाम हुसैन(अ) और उनके घर वालों की शहादत से मनसूब है, लिहाज़ा इसका ख़ास एहतेराम करें, दुसरी कौ़मों को मोहर्रम का मज़ाक बनाने का मौक़ा न दें, वरना मोहर्रम सिर्फ़ एक रस्म बनकर रह जायेगा, और इमाम हुसैन(अ) की शहादत का मक़सद अधूरा रह जायेगा।

एक मरतबा इस बात पर ग़ौर ज़रूर करें, बात कड़वी ज़रूर लग सकती है मगर सच है।

gulam_parinda
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Re: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

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Unread post by gulam_parinda » Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:39 am

Aa sagla yameneen maula tus ni mohabat ma darsalam jai rahya che sagla rastao bandh che air na to private boat karavi yemen si jubuti kalako thai darya ma ane waha si by air mumenin mukhlesin


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kimanumanu
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Re: Bohra Muharram 2016 and related topics

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Unread post by kimanumanu » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:04 am

gulam_parinda wrote:Aa sikka daressLam maa janara darek ne moula tarafsi puregold naa milse... :( :?:

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