ISIS a bigger threat to Muslims

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ISIS a bigger threat to Muslims

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Unread post by SBM » Fri Aug 12, 2016 11:16 am

The Islamic State claims to be the defender of the Muslim world, but the Islamic State is a far greater menace to Muslims than to any other group. That’s the conclusion of a new report by the University of Maryland finding that the Islamic State and its allies have killed some 33,000 people and wounded or captured tens of thousands more around the world since 2002, the vast majority of them fellow Muslims. The findings underscore everything we know about ISIS’ brutal methods and harsh governance in areas of Syria and Iraq it controls. But it also suggests the group may be sowing the seeds of its own destruction.

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Mon Aug 15, 2016 6:33 pm

apparently isis can range freely across several countries in the middle east, having the capability and strength to cause havoc in syria, iraq, jordan, saudi arabia, even make inroads into india and pakistan, but does not have the daring or nerve to get inside israel.

or is it something we are all missing? the monster will not bite the hand that feeds it?.....

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Unread post by anajmi » Mon Aug 15, 2016 7:23 pm

Aah precisely. We are busy with ISIS while Israel is building camps and stealing more and more Palestinian territory.

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Unread post by SBM » Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:33 pm

anajmi wrote:Aah precisely. We are busy with ISIS while Israel is building camps and stealing more and more Palestinian territory.
Oh well the brothers in Saudi Arabia/Kuwait/Jordan/UAE are making deals with Israel and supporting ISIS which hurts common Muslim every where in the World.
And equating the problems and havoc ISIS is causing with Israel is just plain cop out..We Muslims are very good in blaming everyone else for our own problems. Time to grow up and take stock of our own shortcomings.

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Unread post by anajmi » Wed Aug 17, 2016 6:32 pm

Muslims are facing many problems on multiple fronts. You should concentrate on problems created by Saudi Arabia and let others focus on the Israeli problem. There is no need to discuss any one only, unless you are a zionist supporter who always wants to talk about Saudi when someone wants to talk about Israel. Are you a zionist supporter?

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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Thu Aug 18, 2016 7:32 am

someone always wants to talk israel , when another is talking about ISIS.
guess who is zionist supporter.
atleast zionist are not trading in sexslave market.

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Unread post by SBM » Thu Aug 18, 2016 10:07 pm

Unfortunately Israelis are not killing Muslims in Yemen, Israelis are not killing Muslims in Syria, Israeli are not killing Muslims in Iraq, Israelis are not killing Lawyers in Pakistan. Israelis are not killings Muslims in Burma, Israel is not killing Muslims in Philippines
All these killings are done in the name of Islam by a group or group of people supported solely by Saudi and Iranian Regimes (except for Burma and Philippines )
Let us not kid ourselves and let us face the reality. Being truthful does not make one a Zionist sympathizer but a truth denier. You can keep your head under the sand (literally that is what Middle Eastern Muslim Regimes) are doing but facts speak for itself.
If Israel is occupying Arab lands, why there is no outcry in Muslim Worlds about it and where is the outcry from Zakir Naik and his ilks about bombarding of Hospital and killing of Children in Yemen by Saudi forces. Why Zakir Naik is quite about atrocities of Boko Haraam in kidnapping of majority of Muslim girls and where is the outcry of Zakir Naik and his Masters in Saudi about enslaving of Muslim Girls by ISIS and story goes on...............

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Unread post by anajmi » Fri Aug 19, 2016 9:18 am

Actually, I believe it is Israel and it's agents under Muslim garbs that are killing muslims in all these places. One has to be a complete idiot to not see the connection. Who is the biggest enemy of Islam and muslims as per the Quran? Why then is an organization, that according to your masters is following the purest interpretation of Islam, killing muslims?

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Aug 19, 2016 4:22 pm

The ISIS comedy continues…

ISIS’s string pullers in Washington and Tel Aviv are trying to drag the whole world into their farcical stage-play. Thanks to a slew of ‘beheading videos’ and contrived ‘terror incidents’ that struck a number of Western capitals in recent months, much of the Western world has reluctantly signed up with America’s counterfeit crusade against the radical group.

One can’t help but laugh at the way in which our loathsome leaders try to pull the wool over our eyes time and again.

These cowards in high places have resorted to fantastical lies and clownish frauds to keep us complacent and ignorant.


This latest chicanery should make you grin.

Just hours after Japan’s Prime Minister Shinzo Abe made an “anti-terrorism” pact with Israel and pledged $200 million towards the anti-ISIS coalition led by the United States, ISIS released a video threatening to kill two Japanese hostages.

The infamous British-accented Islamic State fighter, who allegedly beheaded a string of hostages over recent months including American photojournalist James Foley, appears in a new video demanding a ransom of $200 million in exchange for the release of the two Japanese captives.

“[Israeli PM] Netanyahu warned [Japanese PM] Abe that Japan could become a target of terrorism,” writes Dr. Patrick Slattery in an article on David Duke’s website, “and almost on cue, within a matter of hours ISIS released a video featuring two Japanese hostages in orange jumpsuits and a knife-wielding masked man who announced in British English that the Japanese [captives] would be killed if a $200 million ransom is not paid in 72 hours.”

What timing! What convenience!


ISIS seems to have ready-made beheading videos designed to whip up a furor in every country on god’s green earth. Americans, Frenchmen, Brits and now Japanese – it’s like they have a repository of prisoners from around the world, at-the-ready to be used as bait for further incitement.

ISIS’s string pullers in Washington and Tel Aviv are trying to drag the whole world into their farcical stage-play. Thanks to a slew of ‘beheading videos’ and contrived ‘terror incidents’ that struck a number of Western capitals in recent months, much of the Western world has reluctantly signed up with America’s counterfeit crusade against the radical group. And now Japan has been suckered into the madness.

As Slattery points out in the aforesaid article, the new ISIS video, like the myriad of replicas before it, appears to have been faked. The shadows are wrong and the wind affects the two Japanese captives differently. Slattery observes that,

“The video seems to be a composite as the three men were clearly not filmed in the same place at the same time. The hostage of the left, free-lance journalist Kenji Goto, has shadows on the right side of his face, while self-styled military consultant and former homeless person Haruna Yukawa has shadows on the left side of his face. Also, Yukawa’s jumpsuit billows in the wind, while Goto’s is mostly still. Furthermore, both hostages fail to show the slightest emotion as the masked man points a knife at each of their heads and threatens to kill them.”

All of ISIS’s HBO-quality productions look to be shot in some sort of professional studio, perhaps even in Hollywood. Everything about the group, from its menacing black flags, Toyota trucks and masked Kalashnikov-wielding ‘bad-guys,’ appears calibrated to fit a cinematic stereotype of the ‘Muslim radical’ and ‘violent Arab.’ This is not reality, it is carefully choreographed theater, produced and directed by the US-Israeli Military Industrial Complex.

The lead antagonist of this mediocre action flick, ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, may not even exist at all. According to a New York Times report, the self-styled ‘caliph’ may have been a fictional character from the outset.

Entitled “Leader of Al Qaeda group in Iraq was fictional, U.S. military says,” the 2007 Times report explains that Abdullah Rashid al-Baghdadi, the head of ‘Islamic State in Iraq’ (precursor to ISIS), was a wholly fabricated personality whose public declarations were voiced by an elderly Iraqi actor named Abu Adullah al-Naima.


US military spokesman Brigadier General Kevin Bergner acknowledged this fact, but tried to lay the blame for the hoax on al-Qaeda itself, suggesting that the purpose of the ruse was to put an ‘Iraqi face’ on a foreign-backed group, thereby drawing in more recruits from local militants opposed to the US invasion.

But even if that is to be believed, al-Qaeda itself, from its inception, was nothing more than a loose conglomeration of Jihadist mercenaries on the payroll of the CIA. The group’s leaders are, for the most part, double agents for the CIA, Mossad and MI6, fronting as ‘Islamic radicals’; a phantom enemy manufactured to serve the geopolitical objectives of the true ‘Axis of Evil’ ­– the US, Britain and Israel.

Is this phantom ‘al-Baghdadi’ from 2007 the residual chieftain of ISIS? If the previous head of ‘Islamic State in Iraq’ was merely a performer putting on a spectacle for the credulous masses, as the US military admits, then what makes this latest incarnation of the shadowy terror kingpin any less chimeric?

“Debunkers” will of course say that the admittedly mythical ‘al-Baghdadi’ and his present-day doppelganger are two different persons. But absent any kind of hard evidence that the terrorist ringleader is a real person with a real background, and considering his group’s dubious antecedents, it would be foolish to have any faith in the whole delusory affair.

All of this follows a pattern of US and Israeli intelligence psy-ops. In 2002, Israel exposed its hand behind a bungled operation to establish a counterfeit ‘al-Qaeda cell’ in the Gaza Strip. In December of that year Ariel Sharon asserted the presence of al-Qaeda in the Strip, and then had Mossad agents go out and recruit Gaza Arabs into a fake faction of al-Qaeda loyalists with promises of money and other allurements. The existence of the phony ‘terror cell,’ cultivated by Mossad itself, was then used by Sharon and company as a pretext to attack the beleaguered coastal enclave.

That Israeli deception signifies a broader stratagem of duplicity employed by Western secret services that willingly do Israel’s bidding free of charge. In the name of ‘exporting democracy’ – code speak for ‘eliminating threats to Israel’ – the Zionist-controlled West fakes threats and engineers crises in order to steer their populations into the neocon ideological fold, thereby easing the public into consenting to endless wars of aggression and constant curtailments of civil liberties.

It’s the same old game, over and over again, but people keep falling for it.

http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2015/ ... continues/

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Aug 19, 2016 4:36 pm

Al Zulfiqar wrote:apparently isis can range freely across several countries in the middle east, having the capability and strength to cause havoc in syria, iraq, jordan, saudi arabia, even make inroads into india and pakistan, but does not have the daring or nerve to get inside israel.

or is it something we are all missing? the monster will not bite the hand that feeds it?.....
Former Cuba Leader Fidel Castro Says 'Israel and US Fathered Isis'

Former Cuban leader Fidel Castro has claimed that Israel and the United States are behind the creation of the Isis (now known as the Islamic State) terror group, according to local media reports.

In a piece written for official Cuban state media, Castro accuses Israel's intelligence agency, Mossad, and US Senator John McCain of conspiring to create the IS. His comments were translated into English by Russia Today.

In the article, Castro writes that John McCain is Israel's "most unconditional ally" and has been in cahoots with Mossad to create IS.

The former Cuban leader alleges that the US Senator, "together with [Mossad, conspired] in the creation of the Islamic State, which today controls a considerable and vital portion of Iraq and reportedly one-third of Syria as well."

Castro then turns to Nato and compares the alliances leaders to that of Nazi Germany's SS corps.

"Many people are astonished when they hear the statements made by some European spokesmen for Nato when they speak with the style and face of the Nazi SS," he writes.

"Adolf Hitler's greed-based empire went down in history with no more glory than the encouragement provided to Nato's aggressive and bourgeois governments, which makes them the laughing stock of Europe and the world."

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/former-cuba-le ... is-1463843

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Aug 21, 2016 7:15 pm

The confusion in the world we see today, especially in Muslim countries, is the result of skewed policy of USA and Western powers and none else, and Arabs who are with them, more than non-Arab countries, are also responsible for the killing of Muslims by Muslims. Unless the Shia-Sunni animosity, hatred and divide vanish, peace will not return to Muslim countries and Western powers will continue to exploit this vertical divide to their advantage.

Wahabism, Salafism, fundamentalism, extremism, radicalism, suicide bombing etc., will damage Islam and lead Muslims and Muslim countries nowhere.

ISIS is killing Muslims and innocent people and I doubt whether all in the ISIS are Muslims indeed or a third mysterious force has been created and projected in the name of Muslims to destroy Islam, Muslims and Muslim countries.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Oct 02, 2016 6:21 pm

Pentagon paid PR firm $540mn to make fake terrorist videos

The Pentagon paid a UK PR firm half a billion dollars to create fake terrorist videos in Iraq in a secret propaganda campaign exposed by the Bureau of Investigative Journalism.

PR firm Bell Pottinger, known for its array of controversial clients including the Saudi government and Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet’s foundation, worked with the US military to create the propaganda in a secretive operation.

The firm reported to the CIA, the National Security Council and the Pentagon on the project with a mandate to portray Al-Qaeda in a negative light and track suspected sympathizers.

Both the White House and General David Petraeus, the former general who shared classified information with his mistress, signed off on the content produced by the agency.

The Bell Pottinger operation started soon after the US invasion of Iraq and was tasked with promoting the “democratic elections” for the administration before moving on to more lucrative psychological and information operations.

Former employee Martin Wells told the Bureau how he found himself working in Iraq after being hired as a video editor by Bell Pottinger. Within 48 hours, he was landing in Baghdad to edit content for secret “psychological operations” at Camp Victory.

The firm created television ads showing Al-Qaeda in a negative light as well as creating content to look as though it had come from “Arabic TV”. Crews were sent out to film bombings with low quality video. The firm would then edit it to make it look like news footage.

They would craft scripts for Arabic soap operas where characters would reject terrorism with happy consequences. The firm also created fake Al-Qaeda propaganda videos, which were then planted by the military in homes they raided.

Employees were given specific instructions to create the videos. “We need to make this style of video and we’ve got to use Al-Qaeda's footage,” Wells was told. “We need it to be 10 minutes long, and it needs to be in this file format, and we need to encode it in this manner.”

The videos were created to play on Real Player which needs an internet connection to run. The CDs were embedded with a code linking to Google Analytics which allowed the military to track IP addresses that the videos were played on.

According to Wells, the videos were picked up in Iran, Syria and the US.

"If one, 48 hours or a week later shows up in another part of the world, then that’s the more interesting one,” Wells explained. “And that’s what they’re looking for more, because that gives you a trail.”

The Pentagon confirmed the PR firm did work for them under the Information Operations Task Force (IOTF) creating content they say was “truthful”. The firm also worked under the Joint Psychological Operations Task Force (JPOTF). The Pentagon said it could not comment on JPOTF operations.

US law prohibits the government from using propaganda on its population, hence the use of an outside firm to create the content.

https://www.rt.com/usa/361385-pentagon- ... st-videos/

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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Mon Feb 06, 2017 5:18 am

Arab Secularist DESTROYS Islamists ( ARAB DEBATE).mp4
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Unread post by anajmi » Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:16 pm

The half chaddi sympathizer posting crap from the jewish mouthpiece. Big surprise!!!

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Unread post by qutub_mamajiwala » Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:30 am

Saudi ambassador - Atheists Are Terrorists.mp4
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Unread post by anajmi » Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:21 pm

Couldn't view the file. But I fully agree with him. If all muslims are terrorists according to half Chaddis then all atheists can be terrorists according to full white robes.