Muffadal Saifuddin and related topics 2018

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Muffadal Saifuddin and related topics 2018

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Unread post by bohrabhai » Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:22 pm

Please post relevant information here



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Unread post by bohraspy » Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:01 am

This msg is floating on Bohri WhatsApp - can any members confirm?
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Huzurala TUS ye mazoon dawat na rutba ma Qasim bs & mukasir na rutba ma ALIASGER bs kalimuddin ne Qaeem kida che
MUmineen ne Mubarak thai
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Unread post by Sceptical » Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:58 am

Yes, it's confirmed. The appointement was done during Milad waez.



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Unread post by Reporter » Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:42 pm

Mufaddal Maula's grand birthday celebrations:
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Unread post by Reporter » Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:48 pm

Celebration contd...





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Unread post by bohra_manus » Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:47 pm

Reporter wrote:
Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:42 pm
Mufaddal Maula's grand birthday celebrations:
How many birthdays does he have?
Doesn't he cheat and celebrate his birthday on Lailatul Qadar night eventhough he was born on 23rd Ramadan?



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Unread post by Ozdundee » Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:30 am

bohra_manus wrote:
Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:47 pm
Reporter wrote:
Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:42 pm
Mufaddal Maula's grand birthday celebrations:
How many birthdays does he have?
Doesn't he cheat and celebrate his birthday on Lailatul Qadar night eventhough he was born on 23rd Ramadan?
Amazing no fatwa for not performing fake birthdays or overdoing the cekebration

But don't dare celebrate common persons wedding



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Unread post by dal-chaval-palidu » Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:29 pm

Milad Mubarak 1439 , Surat , Procession From Cotton Mill To Jamea-tus_saifiyah, Dawoodi Bohra Mumin


youtu.be/l5N4rz5jdIM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5N4rz5jdIM

Indore Juloos procession


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click here if the video doesn't work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-QcPKq7SVk

Sagwara


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I was thinking the same stuff. You just said a little while back that we want weddings ONLY in the community halls so that rich and poor celebrate similarly for weddings, so that class differences don't show up.

So you want weddings to be celebrated simply. Fair enough in the sense that Maulana Ali (AS) and Rasulallah (SAW) lived in a simple way. But then if weddings (once in a lifetime) are to be simple, why so much more resources, time and money of the bohras spent on the birthday of a dai who has passed away (and which you now celebrate as your own birthday)?

It is inconsistent, to say the least.



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#9

Unread post by New » Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:47 pm

Are bhai tame sun waat karocho? Our Abdes show up for a fake birthday en mass. It is never practice as you preach for anything. The 52 Dia peacefully lies in Mumbai while masses go to Surat. Are Abdes stuped.? Judge for yourself.



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Unread post by New » Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:44 pm

New difinition for Western Toilets, S:::Holes, do you see similarities between 53rd and 45th?



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Unread post by hello52 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:46 pm

It's well said about syedna Mohammed burhanuddin ra that " hum naam e Mohammed saw" and " he is hum shaan a Mohammed saw"

And this phrase is actually true .
Just compare the events after death of syedna Mohammed burhanuddin with the events of Rasullah saw .

Same few people tried to elect a successor . And during syedna Mohammed burhanuddin ra time his half brother tried to elect himself as successor.

Moula ali saw were busy with gussal kafan and dafan . Syddna Mufaddal saifuddin tus were also busy with the same work.

Khuzaima claimed the position from syedna mufaddal saifuddin tus
Abu bakr claimed the position from moula ali saw

Abu bakr died after 2yr 2 months 2weeks
Khuzaima died after 2yr 2 months 2weeks
{ Abu bakr :- 8 June 632 – 22 August 634. Khuzaima :-17 Jan 2014 -- 30 march 2016 }

Manny similarities and one more will take place on this date 12 june 2026



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Unread post by ajamali » Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:16 pm

hello52 wrote:
Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:46 pm
It's well said about syedna Mohammed burhanuddin ra that " hum naam e Mohammed saw" and " he is hum shaan a Mohammed saw"

And this phrase is actually true .
Just compare the events after death of syedna Mohammed burhanuddin with the events of Rasullah saw .

Same few people tried to elect a successor . And during syedna Mohammed burhanuddin ra time his half brother tried to elect himself as successor.

Moula ali saw were busy with gussal kafan and dafan . Syddna Mufaddal saifuddin tus were also busy with the same work.

Khuzaima claimed the position from syedna mufaddal saifuddin tus
Abu bakr claimed the position from moula ali saw

Abu bakr died after 2yr 2 months 2weeks
Khuzaima died after 2yr 2 months 2weeks
{ Abu bakr :- 8 June 632 – 22 August 634. Khuzaima :-17 Jan 2014 -- 30 march 2016 }

Manny similarities and one more will take place on this date 12 june 2026
There are other similarities. After Rasulullah started preaching his message He had few followers for 10 years... then they thronged to him.

Your analogy is messed up. Abu Bakr was was the leader of the majority. MS also has the masses thronging to him out of fear of social boycott. All that unsubstantiated mumbo jumbo of two years two weeks etc. does not fool anyone. And your threat does not scare anyone either.



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Unread post by dal-chaval-palidu » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:32 pm

hello52 wrote:
Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:46 pm
It's well said about syedna Mohammed burhanuddin ra that " hum naam e Mohammed saw" and " he is hum shaan a Mohammed saw"

And this phrase is actually true .

Just compare the events after death of syedna Mohammed burhanuddin with the events of Rasullah saw .

Same few people tried to elect a successor . And during syedna Mohammed burhanuddin ra time his half brother tried to elect himself as successor.

Moula ali saw were busy with gussal kafan and dafan . Syddna Mufaddal saifuddin tus were also busy with the same work.

Khuzaima claimed the position from syedna mufaddal saifuddin tus
Abu bakr claimed the position from moula ali saw

Abu bakr died after 2yr 2 months 2weeks
Khuzaima died after 2yr 2 months 2weeks
{ Abu bakr :- 8 June 632 – 22 August 634. Khuzaima :-17 Jan 2014 -- 30 march 2016 }

Manny similarities and one more will take place on this date 12 june 2026
Regarding your highlighted claim, how about the lifestyle, Sir, Hello52?

Rasulallah (SAW) lived a simple life, his family lived simply and ate simple food, and so did Maulana Ali. Can you then explain the multiple lavish bunglows, Saifee mahal, and all of that, how that fits into this comparison?



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Unread post by Moiz_Dhaanu » Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:21 am

Empathy level of DMBS Is less than Zero
I think he was given so-called Doctorate in Quick entry and exit
His face expression (observe closely) are like "somebody get me outta here" :lol:
DMBS : Dawedaar Mufaddal Bhai Saheb

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Unread post by Moiz_Dhaanu » Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:40 pm

The PR team quickly realised the absence of empathy in DMBS behaviour , and have now released this video..
I don't think anything is left for imagination for the viewers of this video to realise as to what are the main interests of DMBS :D

DMBS : Dawedaar Mufaddal Bhai Saheb

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Unread post by Crater Lake » Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:42 am

Moiz_Dhaanu wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:40 pm
The PR team quickly realised the absence of empathy in DMBS behaviour , and have now released this video..
I don't think anything is left for imagination for the viewers of this video to realise as to what are the main interests of DMBS :D

DMBS : Dawedaar Mufaddal Bhai Saheb
He has given up on even pretending to show an interest!! A little like his ardent follower MomeenTurd aka level_headed who had a lot of hollow talk about focusing on one's own nafs and not sermonizing but who had an extreme meltdown over his hatred for an unsuspecting lady and ended up sermonizing to the extreme...A little like MS talking big about his love for mumineen but who is only interested in .....ahem...najwa no cover!!!



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Unread post by RashidaL » Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:47 pm

I think I know what you are trying to get at here CL, Unhappy and Moiz Bhai.
The insincerity of Muffy Duniya is palpable : be it in the khokla sermoning of MominTurd aka not_level_headed or in the in-and-out disinterested kadam drama of the Don himself.

In my personal experience, the bayans are so hate filled that I find them more to be serving the regime rather than serving the interests of the audience.....



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Unread post by allbird » Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:35 am

Moiz_Dhaanu wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:40 pm
The PR team quickly realised the absence of empathy in DMBS behaviour , and have now released this video..
I don't think anything is left for imagination for the viewers of this video to realise as to what are the main interests of DMBS :D

DMBS : Dawedaar Mufaddal Bhai Saheb



All i can hear in the back ground is ....... "Cover Aappo "........." Cover Aappo"........... :D :D



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Unread post by RashidaL » Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:06 am

allbird wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:35 am
Moiz_Dhaanu wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:40 pm
The PR team quickly realised the absence of empathy in DMBS behaviour , and have now released this video..
I don't think anything is left for imagination for the viewers of this video to realise as to what are the main interests of DMBS :D

DMBS : Dawedaar Mufaddal Bhai Saheb



All i can hear in the back ground is ....... "Cover Aappo "........." Cover Aappo"........... :D :D
God forbid he step into the home of one of his followers and not get paid!! The family look distinctly deflated/underwhelmed by the experience.



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Unread post by Shams » Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:42 pm

RashidaL wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:06 am
allbird wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:35 am


All i can hear in the back ground is ....... "Cover Aappo "........." Cover Aappo"........... :D :D
God forbid he step into the home of one of his followers and not get paid!! The family look distinctly deflated/underwhelmed by the experience.
Look at the boy to the left of Muffy. Notice how slyly he slides into scene, grabs a couple of covers and exits the scene even before Muffy leaves the house. They assume that the sheep is ready to be slaughtered and every idiot inside is atleast going to have two covers. The man on this side of the exchange doesnt even blink an eyelid before handing over covers to the teenager.



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Unread post by dal-chaval-palidu » Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:28 pm

I look at it slightly differently. Why blame ONLY MS bhaisaheb? Yes, he and the kothar do deserve a good part of the blame. But, look at the video and the audio. He steps in and steps out in a blink of an eye and the people (mostly women's voices) are all gaga over it and are shouting mola mola. If that is what they want, they deserve it. They deserve a larger part of the blame in my view.

It does not take a (Ivan) Pavlov to figure out that these people are ready (conditioned) to be fleeced !



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Unread post by dal-chaval-palidu » Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:29 pm

And if that is what they want, if that is what makes them happy, who are we to protest ... :(



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Unread post by mustafazr » Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:44 am

dal-chaval-palidu wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:29 pm
And if that is what they want, if that is what makes them happy, who are we to protest ... :(
It is incumbent upon every Mumin to strive towards khair khwayi (betterment), hidayat (guidance) and najaat (salvation) of his fellow brethren. The highest example in this regard is Daiz Zaman Syedna Taher Fakhruddin TUS, who in all his endeavors, especially through the legal case, is striving towards these causes. Rasulullah SAW did not take the stance that if pagans want to worship idols, "who are we to protest". Haq na saheb strives towards delivering hidayat, and Rasulullah's Dai is doing the same today.



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Unread post by Humsafar » Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:26 pm

dal-chaval-palidu wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:29 pm
And if that is what they want, if that is what makes them happy, who are we to protest ... :(
You are missing a fundamental point. Of course, nobody would protest if this "Bohradom" was some private cult, like so many other cults where the Gurus can make their devotees do whatever the hell they want. But so long as the mafia clergy claims to be Islamic and runs the whole racket in the name of Islamili/Fatimid faith then their behaviour and the behaviour of Bohras will be questioned. And all those who care about Islam and Bohra faith must protest.



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Unread post by allbird » Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:57 am

i have spoken to any uneducated bohra people from Indian villages and found them to be very stubborn and single track minded. For them Moula is Haq and the right path to salvation. When discuss about money laundering and money hungry Kothar they overlook all that as minor matters and see Moula and his salvation as their end. One cannot talk logic and common sense with them. As long as MS has those types in this clan as Shaikhs and Mullah he is the winner.



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Unread post by mustafazr » Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:26 pm

allbird wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:57 am
i have spoken to any uneducated bohra people from Indian villages and found them to be very stubborn and single track minded. For them Moula is Haq and the right path to salvation. When discuss about money laundering and money hungry Kothar they overlook all that as minor matters and see Moula and his salvation as their end. One cannot talk logic and common sense with them. As long as MS has those types in this clan as Shaikhs and Mullah he is the winner.
Be that as it may, the obligations on each Mumin to strive towards betterment of their fellow brethren still holds.

As for MS, as long as he insists on his false claims, he is the loser. As history teaches us, hold over the people does not make one the winner. One wins from submission to Allah, through ta'at (obedience) of his Wali.



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Unread post by allbird » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:00 am

Do this people fear Allah SWT. NO because they think they are Allah so there is no reason for repentance.



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Unread post by level_headed » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:25 am

allbird wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:35 am
All i can hear in the back ground is ....... "Cover Aappo "........." Cover Aappo"........... :D :D
And here the dawedaar TB is shouting every day - Mein cover aapoo..mein cover aapoo..tame please maara paase aavo..koyee pharaktu bhi nathi..except RashidaL..who came over all the way from a small town in India (or is it New Jersey).

And here is my Maula Aali Qadr Mufaddal Saifuddin. TUS - you should see how everyone jumps over hoops to get close to Maula. His strength is - he wins people over by his smile, just one look and a person's life gets changed.

When Laeen Sulaiman did nas no inkaar, guess who joined him - all the sharabis, the sood khors joined him. Fast forward to 2014. Guess who are there in Laeen Qutbuddin toli - all the sood khors and the sharaabis. The biggest sood khor is Taher qutbuddin. All those who are with him and support him look at them - all the sood khors and the sharaabis.

The teenager taking the cover is the same person who was kidnapped by the Qutbuddin toli. Yes, he is Shz Taha BS farzand. See the way he and his brothers do khidmat of Mufaddal Maula. This win was a huge slap in the face of the Qutbuddin toli. You thought that you will be able to kidnap and take away Maula's farzands - Maula is Saifuddin. He has Imam uz Zamaan's help. The kids got returned to the rightful owners and the Qutbuddin toli was left twiddling their thumbs. Be prepared Qutbuddin toli - that the next win is Maula's in the khafz case.



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Unread post by Maqbool » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:10 am

When Laeen Sulaiman did nas no inkaar, guess who joined him - all the sharabis, the sood khors joined him.
Do you know how many of Burhani Guards are sharabis and jua player. Get the facts.

And see in you, The gali galochi is a follower of MS!



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Unread post by Crater Lake » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:34 am

level_headed wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:25 am
allbird wrote:
Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:35 am
All i can hear in the back ground is ....... "Cover Aappo "........." Cover Aappo"........... :D :D
And here the dawedaar TB is shouting every day - Mein cover aapoo..mein cover aapoo..tame please maara paase aavo..koyee pharaktu bhi nathi..except RashidaL..who came over all the way from a small town in India (or is it New Jersey).

And here is my Maula Aali Qadr Mufaddal Saifuddin. TUS - you should see how everyone jumps over hoops to get close to Maula. His strength is - he wins people over by his smile, just one look and a person's life gets changed.

When Laeen Sulaiman did nas no inkaar, guess who joined him - all the sharabis, the sood khors joined him. Fast forward to 2014. Guess who are there in Laeen Qutbuddin toli - all the sood khors and the sharaabis. The biggest sood khor is Taher qutbuddin. All those who are with him and support him look at them - all the sood khors and the sharaabis.

The teenager taking the cover is the same person who was kidnapped by the Qutbuddin toli. Yes, he is Shz Taha BS farzand. See the way he and his brothers do khidmat of Mufaddal Maula. This win was a huge slap in the face of the Qutbuddin toli. You thought that you will be able to kidnap and take away Maula's farzands - Maula is Saifuddin. He has Imam uz Zamaan's help. The kids got returned to the rightful owners and the Qutbuddin toli was left twiddling their thumbs. Be prepared Qutbuddin toli - that the next win is Maula's in the khafz case.
Taking a big cover from a poor family and giving it to a multi millionaire for a step-in step-out is not khidmat, it is daylight robbery! RashidaL is right to go to Syedna Fakhruddin. Many people are now telling us we are better off and it is all “paisa no khel” in the Muffy world. We really don’t care how the Khafd case goes. We have guidance from Syedna Fakhruddin. It’s Muffy’s problem.

Also, I can vouch that there is not a single sharrabi with Syedna Fakhruddin. We all know what happens in the MS land!