Ohbat majlis win win for all
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Ohbat majlis win win for all
Salam.
Ohbat majlis scheme created by mufaddal saifuddin is win win for all. I am going to point out as follow.
Rich guys gets chance to show off their wealth and homes and its interior to fellow bohra middle class public. Win
Small time mullah gets chance to visit overseas for free in the name of ohbat majlis. Win
Mufaddal wants to give impression that he is biggest lover of Imam Hussain and this new scheme gives him that impression although his actions in bigger picture are opposite to Imam Hussain life. Win
Poor section gets chance to do majlis in his home to bring barakat. Though in many cases it is forced one. Win
Kothar guys gets chance to get in your house and do analysis on your economic condition. Win
Amil makes lots of money in salam on daily basis. Win
Average bohra gets a chance to visit people houses which is normally not possible. Win
Add points if I missed any.
Ohbat majlis scheme created by mufaddal saifuddin is win win for all. I am going to point out as follow.
Rich guys gets chance to show off their wealth and homes and its interior to fellow bohra middle class public. Win
Small time mullah gets chance to visit overseas for free in the name of ohbat majlis. Win
Mufaddal wants to give impression that he is biggest lover of Imam Hussain and this new scheme gives him that impression although his actions in bigger picture are opposite to Imam Hussain life. Win
Poor section gets chance to do majlis in his home to bring barakat. Though in many cases it is forced one. Win
Kothar guys gets chance to get in your house and do analysis on your economic condition. Win
Amil makes lots of money in salam on daily basis. Win
Average bohra gets a chance to visit people houses which is normally not possible. Win
Add points if I missed any.
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Forwarded as received
JASHAN of AHOBAT
During the last 2 weeks of July, the Kothar has imposed 15 days of Ahobat festival in all the Bohra Jumaats.
As usual they gave the name of Ahobat, means Paigam of Gam e Hussain; but in reality it has become an another 15 days festival of free vacation trip around the globe for the selected Kothari Janabs and their puppets; who have bribed their Aamils to get permission to join the group to get 15 days Free VIP vacation packet. As such this whole Ahobat scheme is useless and unwanted because no Momineens need to be pursued for attending and performing Gam of Imam Hussain a. s. and the Shahadat of Karbala during the Ashura. If he or she is a Bohra, Gam of Imam Hussain a. s. and Tehzib of Ashura is embedded in their blood. And really this Ahobat group is doing nothing but visits the member’s house for 10 or 20 minutes Majlis Ritual, forcing the host family to wait for them for hours, and soon the Majlis and fake cry by 1 or 2 Zakereen is over, they start social gossip and making their plans to visit places of entertainment, beaches, Malls, Disney Land, Universal Studios and so on. Let me write how Ahobat was carried out in our Jumaat here in Ontario, California, USA.
As usual, our Janab started Elan of Ahobat soon after the Lailatul Qadre in almost every occasion as a Farman of the Aqa Moula. The program list and volunteers were kept ready to take the group to the home of each Jumaat member. Also, the Jumaat volunteers were forced to provide different services for these visitors who are coming from the different part of the world that includes, transportation, boarding, lodging, taking them to various places of entertainment, Malls and amusement parks. Our Jumaat provided following services to these group members:
The host member who will provide accommodation was also told to be official sponsor of the visitor, his name, address and financial responsibility was used to get American Visa.
The members; who visited this year were from India, Kuwait, Pakistan and Dubai.
Except few Zakereen, most of them were either Aamils, Sheikhs and visitors, who wanted to have American Visa, free VIP vacation and gifts from the host families and Jumaat.
I was surprised to know that almost 30 members were selected in the group by the Kothar, and 21 were succeeded in getting American Visa. Several of these group members were young, and were started shopping sprees immediately from landing at the airport. They had attended very few Ahobat and Jumaat Majlis.
Almost all the members including Janabs and Aamils, managed to visit San Diego, Disney Land, Universal Studios and Malls.
Our Jumaat has prepared daily hot breakfast, lunch and dinner for them and delivered foods to their host members homes, most of the time; these foods remained in the refrigerators and wasted because the members did not eat but insisted to eat either from different Jumaat members homes during the Ahobat visits or demanding special items from the fast food restaurants, even though such foods were not Halal.
Most of these members were thinking that they are really doing Ehsan on the host families by staying there; they were coming at late night making lives of the host families unbearable.
The bottom line; our Jumaat has spend more than $27,570 dollars on this Ahobat Jashan. Some host families also took advantage of free food; and submitting receipts of unknown items. Others spent money from their pockets without submitting expenses only to get Sawab!!
Almost all the group members were very happy and left enjoying the vacation, and were wishing to come again and again. The Kuwait members told that they will start making plans immediately to visit New York next year, and that will be their 4th Ahobat visit.
I do not think that the other Jumaats might have anything better experienced than what we have.
If this Jashan of Ahobat is not controlled soon, it will become an another 15 days Kothari Festival, and Bohras around the globe will start paying in thousands of dollar bribe to get this free American Visa and VIP vacation packet.
JASHAN of AHOBAT
During the last 2 weeks of July, the Kothar has imposed 15 days of Ahobat festival in all the Bohra Jumaats.
As usual they gave the name of Ahobat, means Paigam of Gam e Hussain; but in reality it has become an another 15 days festival of free vacation trip around the globe for the selected Kothari Janabs and their puppets; who have bribed their Aamils to get permission to join the group to get 15 days Free VIP vacation packet. As such this whole Ahobat scheme is useless and unwanted because no Momineens need to be pursued for attending and performing Gam of Imam Hussain a. s. and the Shahadat of Karbala during the Ashura. If he or she is a Bohra, Gam of Imam Hussain a. s. and Tehzib of Ashura is embedded in their blood. And really this Ahobat group is doing nothing but visits the member’s house for 10 or 20 minutes Majlis Ritual, forcing the host family to wait for them for hours, and soon the Majlis and fake cry by 1 or 2 Zakereen is over, they start social gossip and making their plans to visit places of entertainment, beaches, Malls, Disney Land, Universal Studios and so on. Let me write how Ahobat was carried out in our Jumaat here in Ontario, California, USA.
As usual, our Janab started Elan of Ahobat soon after the Lailatul Qadre in almost every occasion as a Farman of the Aqa Moula. The program list and volunteers were kept ready to take the group to the home of each Jumaat member. Also, the Jumaat volunteers were forced to provide different services for these visitors who are coming from the different part of the world that includes, transportation, boarding, lodging, taking them to various places of entertainment, Malls and amusement parks. Our Jumaat provided following services to these group members:
The host member who will provide accommodation was also told to be official sponsor of the visitor, his name, address and financial responsibility was used to get American Visa.
The members; who visited this year were from India, Kuwait, Pakistan and Dubai.
Except few Zakereen, most of them were either Aamils, Sheikhs and visitors, who wanted to have American Visa, free VIP vacation and gifts from the host families and Jumaat.
I was surprised to know that almost 30 members were selected in the group by the Kothar, and 21 were succeeded in getting American Visa. Several of these group members were young, and were started shopping sprees immediately from landing at the airport. They had attended very few Ahobat and Jumaat Majlis.
Almost all the members including Janabs and Aamils, managed to visit San Diego, Disney Land, Universal Studios and Malls.
Our Jumaat has prepared daily hot breakfast, lunch and dinner for them and delivered foods to their host members homes, most of the time; these foods remained in the refrigerators and wasted because the members did not eat but insisted to eat either from different Jumaat members homes during the Ahobat visits or demanding special items from the fast food restaurants, even though such foods were not Halal.
Most of these members were thinking that they are really doing Ehsan on the host families by staying there; they were coming at late night making lives of the host families unbearable.
The bottom line; our Jumaat has spend more than $27,570 dollars on this Ahobat Jashan. Some host families also took advantage of free food; and submitting receipts of unknown items. Others spent money from their pockets without submitting expenses only to get Sawab!!
Almost all the group members were very happy and left enjoying the vacation, and were wishing to come again and again. The Kuwait members told that they will start making plans immediately to visit New York next year, and that will be their 4th Ahobat visit.
I do not think that the other Jumaats might have anything better experienced than what we have.
If this Jashan of Ahobat is not controlled soon, it will become an another 15 days Kothari Festival, and Bohras around the globe will start paying in thousands of dollar bribe to get this free American Visa and VIP vacation packet.
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If bohras still need to be prepared for muharram does what does it implies? What kind of shia will need lessons to remember Imam Hussain?
Rich guys are really happy with this scheme they have got chance to show off their wealth. Big screen tv. Interiors. Life style. Expensive furniture.
Talking in terms of third world countries where all houses are different than others.
Rich guys are really happy with this scheme they have got chance to show off their wealth. Big screen tv. Interiors. Life style. Expensive furniture.
Talking in terms of third world countries where all houses are different than others.
Re: Ohbat majlis win win for all
you havr always been senseless but only to point out a few things so that everybody knowsMoiz_Dhaanu wrote: ↑Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:00 am Forwarded as received
JASHAN of AHOBAT
During the last 2 weeks of July, the Kothar has imposed 15 days of Ahobat festival in all the Bohra Jumaats.
As usual they gave the name of Ahobat, means Paigam of Gam e Hussain; but in reality it has become an another 15 days festival of free vacation trip around the globe for the selected Kothari Janabs and their puppets; who have bribed their Aamils to get permission to join the group to get 15 days Free VIP vacation packet. As such this whole Ahobat scheme is useless and unwanted because no Momineens need to be pursued for attending and performing Gam of Imam Hussain a. s. and the Shahadat of Karbala during the Ashura. If he or she is a Bohra, Gam of Imam Hussain a. s. and Tehzib of Ashura is embedded in their blood. And really this Ahobat group is doing nothing but visits the member’s house for 10 or 20 minutes Majlis Ritual, forcing the host family to wait for them for hours, and soon the Majlis and fake cry by 1 or 2 Zakereen is over, they start social gossip and making their plans to visit places of entertainment, beaches, Malls, Disney Land, Universal Studios and so on. Let me write how Ahobat was carried out in our Jumaat here in Ontario, California, USA.
As usual, our Janab started Elan of Ahobat soon after the Lailatul Qadre in almost every occasion as a Farman of the Aqa Moula. The program list and volunteers were kept ready to take the group to the home of each Jumaat member. Also, the Jumaat volunteers were forced to provide different services for these visitors who are coming from the different part of the world that includes, transportation, boarding, lodging, taking them to various places of entertainment, Malls and amusement parks. Our Jumaat provided following services to these group members:
The host member who will provide accommodation was also told to be official sponsor of the visitor, his name, address and financial responsibility was used to get American Visa.
The members; who visited this year were from India, Kuwait, Pakistan and Dubai.
Except few Zakereen, most of them were either Aamils, Sheikhs and visitors, who wanted to have American Visa, free VIP vacation and gifts from the host families and Jumaat.
I was surprised to know that almost 30 members were selected in the group by the Kothar, and 21 were succeeded in getting American Visa. Several of these group members were young, and were started shopping sprees immediately from landing at the airport. They had attended very few Ahobat and Jumaat Majlis.
Almost all the members including Janabs and Aamils, managed to visit San Diego, Disney Land, Universal Studios and Malls.
Our Jumaat has prepared daily hot breakfast, lunch and dinner for them and delivered foods to their host members homes, most of the time; these foods remained in the refrigerators and wasted because the members did not eat but insisted to eat either from different Jumaat members homes during the Ahobat visits or demanding special items from the fast food restaurants, even though such foods were not Halal.
Most of these members were thinking that they are really doing Ehsan on the host families by staying there; they were coming at late night making lives of the host families unbearable.
The bottom line; our Jumaat has spend more than $27,570 dollars on this Ahobat Jashan. Some host families also took advantage of free food; and submitting receipts of unknown items. Others spent money from their pockets without submitting expenses only to get Sawab!!
Almost all the group members were very happy and left enjoying the vacation, and were wishing to come again and again. The Kuwait members told that they will start making plans immediately to visit New York next year, and that will be their 4th Ahobat visit.
I do not think that the other Jumaats might have anything better experienced than what we have.
If this Jashan of Ahobat is not controlled soon, it will become an another 15 days Kothari Festival, and Bohras around the globe will start paying in thousands of dollar bribe to get this free American Visa and VIP vacation packet.
The tickets even for bhaisaabs have to be self purchased for anywhere in the world,
even if somebody goes for shopping or leisyafter the ohbat is nothing bad and on their own expenses,
no salaam is accepted only salawat if done voluntarily.
so all the shit that comes comes from your brain and your shit leader.
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You are joking right? You think this crap is written by people from Fatemi Dawat? This crap comes to us from disgruntled people on Mufaddali groups. What a joke! Fatemi Dawat people do not have time to write this crap and nor are they part of these Ohbat parties.HJK wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:07 amyou havr always been senseless but only to point out a few things so that everybody knowsMoiz_Dhaanu wrote: ↑Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:00 am Forwarded as received
JASHAN of AHOBAT
During the last 2 weeks of July, the Kothar has imposed 15 days of Ahobat festival in all the Bohra Jumaats.
As usual they gave the name of Ahobat, means Paigam of Gam e Hussain; but in reality it has become an another 15 days festival of free vacation trip around the globe for the selected Kothari Janabs and their puppets; who have bribed their Aamils to get permission to join the group to get 15 days Free VIP vacation packet. As such this whole Ahobat scheme is useless and unwanted because no Momineens need to be pursued for attending and performing Gam of Imam Hussain a. s. and the Shahadat of Karbala during the Ashura. If he or she is a Bohra, Gam of Imam Hussain a. s. and Tehzib of Ashura is embedded in their blood. And really this Ahobat group is doing nothing but visits the member’s house for 10 or 20 minutes Majlis Ritual, forcing the host family to wait for them for hours, and soon the Majlis and fake cry by 1 or 2 Zakereen is over, they start social gossip and making their plans to visit places of entertainment, beaches, Malls, Disney Land, Universal Studios and so on. Let me write how Ahobat was carried out in our Jumaat here in Ontario, California, USA.
As usual, our Janab started Elan of Ahobat soon after the Lailatul Qadre in almost every occasion as a Farman of the Aqa Moula. The program list and volunteers were kept ready to take the group to the home of each Jumaat member. Also, the Jumaat volunteers were forced to provide different services for these visitors who are coming from the different part of the world that includes, transportation, boarding, lodging, taking them to various places of entertainment, Malls and amusement parks. Our Jumaat provided following services to these group members:
The host member who will provide accommodation was also told to be official sponsor of the visitor, his name, address and financial responsibility was used to get American Visa.
The members; who visited this year were from India, Kuwait, Pakistan and Dubai.
Except few Zakereen, most of them were either Aamils, Sheikhs and visitors, who wanted to have American Visa, free VIP vacation and gifts from the host families and Jumaat.
I was surprised to know that almost 30 members were selected in the group by the Kothar, and 21 were succeeded in getting American Visa. Several of these group members were young, and were started shopping sprees immediately from landing at the airport. They had attended very few Ahobat and Jumaat Majlis.
Almost all the members including Janabs and Aamils, managed to visit San Diego, Disney Land, Universal Studios and Malls.
Our Jumaat has prepared daily hot breakfast, lunch and dinner for them and delivered foods to their host members homes, most of the time; these foods remained in the refrigerators and wasted because the members did not eat but insisted to eat either from different Jumaat members homes during the Ahobat visits or demanding special items from the fast food restaurants, even though such foods were not Halal.
Most of these members were thinking that they are really doing Ehsan on the host families by staying there; they were coming at late night making lives of the host families unbearable.
The bottom line; our Jumaat has spend more than $27,570 dollars on this Ahobat Jashan. Some host families also took advantage of free food; and submitting receipts of unknown items. Others spent money from their pockets without submitting expenses only to get Sawab!!
Almost all the group members were very happy and left enjoying the vacation, and were wishing to come again and again. The Kuwait members told that they will start making plans immediately to visit New York next year, and that will be their 4th Ahobat visit.
I do not think that the other Jumaats might have anything better experienced than what we have.
If this Jashan of Ahobat is not controlled soon, it will become an another 15 days Kothari Festival, and Bohras around the globe will start paying in thousands of dollar bribe to get this free American Visa and VIP vacation packet.
The tickets even for bhaisaabs have to be self purchased for anywhere in the world,
even if somebody goes for shopping or leisyafter the ohbat is nothing bad and on their own expenses,
no salaam is accepted only salawat if done voluntarily.
so all the shit that comes comes from your brain and your shit leader.
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This extra pushing from mufaddal shows his insecurity. He knows he can only rule as long as paak name of Imam Hussain is used as a product.
Mufaddal is empty from inside when it comes to his own nafs. He is trying his best to utilize aqa Hussain name for his own empire survival.
Now the only point is how will Imam Hussain respond to this in coming years and how he will end this [DELETED] regime.
Allah knows the best.
Till then enjoy the show and stick to fundamentals of deen.
Stay safe.
Mufaddal is empty from inside when it comes to his own nafs. He is trying his best to utilize aqa Hussain name for his own empire survival.
Now the only point is how will Imam Hussain respond to this in coming years and how he will end this [DELETED] regime.
Allah knows the best.
Till then enjoy the show and stick to fundamentals of deen.
Stay safe.
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Btw amils are taking salaam and it is a lie that that they deny salam.
This whole thing is setup for economic reasons.
No shia needs push for Muharram. End of story.
This whole thing is setup for economic reasons.
No shia needs push for Muharram. End of story.
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The question is will you be going to eat free kabas in this "[DELETED]" gathering Mufaddali gatherings are full of people who call him "[DELETED]" behind his backmomeenbhai wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:51 pm This extra pushing from mufaddal shows his insecurity. He knows he can only rule as long as paak name of Imam Hussain is used as a product.
Mufaddal is empty from inside when it comes to his own nafs. He is trying his best to utilize aqa Hussain name for his own empire survival.
Now the only point is how will Imam Hussain respond to this in coming years and how he will end this f[DELETED] regime.
Allah knows the best.
Till then enjoy the show and stick to fundamentals of deen.
Stay safe.
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a mulla palanpurwalla first in Kuwait and now coming to u.s.a. from Karachi. these are his words not mine.
I have come to give you paigam to attend all nine days of imam Hussain majlis in your town and also make sure you scan your I.D. card so we know how many attend from your community. My answer" we remember moula Ali every time we get up. we say ya A LI MADAD. and after every namaaz we do matam and remember the troubles of Imam Hussain so why limit us to only 9 days. He had no answer.
From the above posts and my experience I gather this as another fun fun hangama at public expense for these chokras to see the world at other peoples expense. Some one inform Imran Khan about this dirty business of the kothar.
I have come to give you paigam to attend all nine days of imam Hussain majlis in your town and also make sure you scan your I.D. card so we know how many attend from your community. My answer" we remember moula Ali every time we get up. we say ya A LI MADAD. and after every namaaz we do matam and remember the troubles of Imam Hussain so why limit us to only 9 days. He had no answer.
From the above posts and my experience I gather this as another fun fun hangama at public expense for these chokras to see the world at other peoples expense. Some one inform Imran Khan about this dirty business of the kothar.
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I always make sure that every thing I eat or my family eat is funded by my own money that too HALAL money.
I am least bother of [DELETED] like mufaddal/taher or their followers. I enjoy being right with wrong people around.
I am least bother of [DELETED] like mufaddal/taher or their followers. I enjoy being right with wrong people around.
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Hows ohbat season going on?
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*अस्सलाम अलैकुम*
हम लोग अज़ादारी ऐ हुसैन के ख़िलाफ़ हरगिज़ नही बल्कि ये अज़ादारी हमारे जीने का मक़सद है,मगर क्या करे कि हमें अज़ादारी के नाम पर हो रही तमाशाबाज़ी भी गंवारा नही है। इमाम हुसैन की शहादत के नाम पे हर जगह एक ही तरह एक ही अंदाज़ में शहादत का पढ़ना ये बताता है कि आपको इससे ज़्यादा कुछ मालूम ही नही है और क़ौम को इससे ज़्यादा कुछ जानने की ज़रूरत भी नही है। *क्या कर्बला में रोज़ ऐ आशूर वक़्ते शहादत ऐ मज़लूम सिर्फ इतना ही हुआ है जो लाइनें आपने मुक़र्रर कर रखी है???*
*क्या इमाम हुसैन (अ. स) की शहादत के बाद ज़ुल्म ख़त्म हो गए थे...?*
जी नही,ज़ुल्म की इंतेहा तो आशूर के दिन से शुरू हुई थी जो आशूर के बाद कर्बला से शाम की तारीख़ पढ़ने वाले समझने वाले जानते है मगर हमें क्या, हम तो दुनिया की रंगीनियों में मशरूफ हो जाते है,ज़ियाफतों में लग जाते है, आशूरा के फौरन बाद रस्मे सैफ़ी के नाम पे यज़ीदियत अपने असली रंग में आ जाती है। हर घर मे खुशी,मेहंदी, ढोल,मांडवा की रस्में, थाली कुटाई के नाम का शोर शराबा हमें याद दिलाता है यज़ीदी लश्कर का वो अमल की जिस अमल पे सय्यदा ज़ैनब और आबिदे बीमार सारे रास्ते रोये थे कि हुसैन की शहादत के फौरन बाद कर्बला से शाम तक ढोल नगाड़े बजाए गए थे।
*क्या आशूरा के फौरन बाद हम भी रस्मे सैफ़ी के नाम पे यही नही करते...?*
*क्या ये कड़वा सच नही की आशूरा के बाद हमे हुसैन की याद चेहल्लुम के दिन ही आती है???*
*कितना अच्छा होता कि जो ओहबत आशूरा के दो महीने पहले शुरू करके बन्द कर दी जाती है वही ओहबत,घर घर मे इमाम हुसैन की मजलिस आशूरा के बाद से चेहल्लुम तक होती और कर्बला के बाद जो ज़ुल्म की इंतहा हुई उसके बयान घर घर मे होते...?*
*याद रखो की शहादत सुनकर रोने की नकली आवाज़ें निकालना भी इमाम हुसैन (अ, स) के साथ एक ज़ुल्म है, शहादत सुनकर आपका संजीदा और रंजीदा होना भी सच्ची अज़ादारी है।*
हम लोग अज़ादारी ऐ हुसैन के ख़िलाफ़ हरगिज़ नही बल्कि ये अज़ादारी हमारे जीने का मक़सद है,मगर क्या करे कि हमें अज़ादारी के नाम पर हो रही तमाशाबाज़ी भी गंवारा नही है। इमाम हुसैन की शहादत के नाम पे हर जगह एक ही तरह एक ही अंदाज़ में शहादत का पढ़ना ये बताता है कि आपको इससे ज़्यादा कुछ मालूम ही नही है और क़ौम को इससे ज़्यादा कुछ जानने की ज़रूरत भी नही है। *क्या कर्बला में रोज़ ऐ आशूर वक़्ते शहादत ऐ मज़लूम सिर्फ इतना ही हुआ है जो लाइनें आपने मुक़र्रर कर रखी है???*
*क्या इमाम हुसैन (अ. स) की शहादत के बाद ज़ुल्म ख़त्म हो गए थे...?*
जी नही,ज़ुल्म की इंतेहा तो आशूर के दिन से शुरू हुई थी जो आशूर के बाद कर्बला से शाम की तारीख़ पढ़ने वाले समझने वाले जानते है मगर हमें क्या, हम तो दुनिया की रंगीनियों में मशरूफ हो जाते है,ज़ियाफतों में लग जाते है, आशूरा के फौरन बाद रस्मे सैफ़ी के नाम पे यज़ीदियत अपने असली रंग में आ जाती है। हर घर मे खुशी,मेहंदी, ढोल,मांडवा की रस्में, थाली कुटाई के नाम का शोर शराबा हमें याद दिलाता है यज़ीदी लश्कर का वो अमल की जिस अमल पे सय्यदा ज़ैनब और आबिदे बीमार सारे रास्ते रोये थे कि हुसैन की शहादत के फौरन बाद कर्बला से शाम तक ढोल नगाड़े बजाए गए थे।
*क्या आशूरा के फौरन बाद हम भी रस्मे सैफ़ी के नाम पे यही नही करते...?*
*क्या ये कड़वा सच नही की आशूरा के बाद हमे हुसैन की याद चेहल्लुम के दिन ही आती है???*
*कितना अच्छा होता कि जो ओहबत आशूरा के दो महीने पहले शुरू करके बन्द कर दी जाती है वही ओहबत,घर घर मे इमाम हुसैन की मजलिस आशूरा के बाद से चेहल्लुम तक होती और कर्बला के बाद जो ज़ुल्म की इंतहा हुई उसके बयान घर घर मे होते...?*
*याद रखो की शहादत सुनकर रोने की नकली आवाज़ें निकालना भी इमाम हुसैन (अ, स) के साथ एक ज़ुल्म है, शहादत सुनकर आपका संजीदा और रंजीदा होना भी सच्ची अज़ादारी है।*
Re: Ohbat majlis win win for all
There is nothing senseless about those points. THEY ARE VALID AND WELL WRITTEN POINTS. I completely agree with HJK posting. Just one more thing the tickets are NOT paid by bhaisaabs personal expense but comes from MAL-E-DAWAAT. full top. They don't get business class but its Iqram from SMS. Rest all points are 100% correct, salams are accepted and shopping, outing all paid by local Jamaat or local Host. They do use some Salaam amount for Pizza or Kababs but thats all.HJK wrote: ↑Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:07 amyou havr always been senseless but only to point out a few things so that everybody knowsMoiz_Dhaanu wrote: ↑Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:00 am Forwarded as received
JASHAN of AHOBAT
During the last 2 weeks of July, the Kothar has imposed 15 days of Ahobat festival in all the Bohra Jumaats.
As usual they gave the name of Ahobat, means Paigam of Gam e Hussain; but in reality it has become an another 15 days festival of free vacation trip around the globe for the selected Kothari Janabs and their puppets; who have bribed their Aamils to get permission to join the group to get 15 days Free VIP vacation packet. As such this whole Ahobat scheme is useless and unwanted because no Momineens need to be pursued for attending and performing Gam of Imam Hussain a. s. and the Shahadat of Karbala during the Ashura. If he or she is a Bohra, Gam of Imam Hussain a. s. and Tehzib of Ashura is embedded in their blood. And really this Ahobat group is doing nothing but visits the member’s house for 10 or 20 minutes Majlis Ritual, forcing the host family to wait for them for hours, and soon the Majlis and fake cry by 1 or 2 Zakereen is over, they start social gossip and making their plans to visit places of entertainment, beaches, Malls, Disney Land, Universal Studios and so on. Let me write how Ahobat was carried out in our Jumaat here in Ontario, California, USA.
As usual, our Janab started Elan of Ahobat soon after the Lailatul Qadre in almost every occasion as a Farman of the Aqa Moula. The program list and volunteers were kept ready to take the group to the home of each Jumaat member. Also, the Jumaat volunteers were forced to provide different services for these visitors who are coming from the different part of the world that includes, transportation, boarding, lodging, taking them to various places of entertainment, Malls and amusement parks. Our Jumaat provided following services to these group members:
The host member who will provide accommodation was also told to be official sponsor of the visitor, his name, address and financial responsibility was used to get American Visa.
The members; who visited this year were from India, Kuwait, Pakistan and Dubai.
Except few Zakereen, most of them were either Aamils, Sheikhs and visitors, who wanted to have American Visa, free VIP vacation and gifts from the host families and Jumaat.
I was surprised to know that almost 30 members were selected in the group by the Kothar, and 21 were succeeded in getting American Visa. Several of these group members were young, and were started shopping sprees immediately from landing at the airport. They had attended very few Ahobat and Jumaat Majlis.
Almost all the members including Janabs and Aamils, managed to visit San Diego, Disney Land, Universal Studios and Malls.
Our Jumaat has prepared daily hot breakfast, lunch and dinner for them and delivered foods to their host members homes, most of the time; these foods remained in the refrigerators and wasted because the members did not eat but insisted to eat either from different Jumaat members homes during the Ahobat visits or demanding special items from the fast food restaurants, even though such foods were not Halal.
Most of these members were thinking that they are really doing Ehsan on the host families by staying there; they were coming at late night making lives of the host families unbearable.
The bottom line; our Jumaat has spend more than $27,570 dollars on this Ahobat Jashan. Some host families also took advantage of free food; and submitting receipts of unknown items. Others spent money from their pockets without submitting expenses only to get Sawab!!
Almost all the group members were very happy and left enjoying the vacation, and were wishing to come again and again. The Kuwait members told that they will start making plans immediately to visit New York next year, and that will be their 4th Ahobat visit.
I do not think that the other Jumaats might have anything better experienced than what we have.
If this Jashan of Ahobat is not controlled soon, it will become an another 15 days Kothari Festival, and Bohras around the globe will start paying in thousands of dollar bribe to get this free American Visa and VIP vacation packet.
The tickets even for bhaisaabs have to be self purchased for anywhere in the world,
even if somebody goes for shopping or leisyafter the ohbat is nothing bad and on their own expenses,
no salaam is accepted only salawat if done voluntarily.
so all the shit that comes comes from your brain and your shit leader.
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Re: Ohbat majlis win win for all
most of the people I know are already sick and tired of this drama, especially elders are really pissed off to run house to house. most are going because they know the host and they dot want to look bad.
Mufaddal saifuddin **en**** should really think again let the people live for a day, for him this is a full-time business but others are really suffering from all these new dictates.
point is will this madness have any end? or it will continue year after year?
Mufaddal saifuddin **en**** should really think again let the people live for a day, for him this is a full-time business but others are really suffering from all these new dictates.
point is will this madness have any end? or it will continue year after year?
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Re: Ohbat majlis win win for all
most young guys come to see girls of the house, and when they leave they leave laughing and joking with loud voices.
this is all OHBAT going on in bilaad imaniya
this is all OHBAT going on in bilaad imaniya
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Re: Ohbat majlis win win for all
for fat ass rich bohras who thinks giving crores to ganpati mufaddal will take them to heaven, watch it.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1029733390633852930
https://twitter.com/i/status/1029733390633852930