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High Court still deliberating it could go either way
Retrial
Suppress court of appeals and charge as guilty
Acquittal
7 most senior judges on bench.
Headed by lady Chief Justice. There are 3 lady judges.
Can you imagine the expression and thinking when these senior ladies sat and prosecution went through details of the barbaric practice. They must have been wondering who is SMS.
A question was asked about Sunnah by one of the judges, the prosecutors brushed it this is not widespread Muslim practice Bohras interpretation is misleading.
Retrial
Suppress court of appeals and charge as guilty
Acquittal
7 most senior judges on bench.
Headed by lady Chief Justice. There are 3 lady judges.
Can you imagine the expression and thinking when these senior ladies sat and prosecution went through details of the barbaric practice. They must have been wondering who is SMS.
A question was asked about Sunnah by one of the judges, the prosecutors brushed it this is not widespread Muslim practice Bohras interpretation is misleading.
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Bohra kothar may think it is winning court battles but such defeats help win in general public opinion. Keeps the issue in broader discussion.Washington — A federal court has denied House Democrats' request to intervene in the appeal of a Michigan criminal case to defend the constitutionality of the federal law prohibiting female genital mutilation.
Watch this space in USA and Australia.
Australia high court decision is pending still.
Hamare har bhi jeet he.
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How many like Oz are there around ...
Inspiring and bringing down dictators
Inspiring and bringing down dictators
The whistleblower's identity remains obscured, the details of his work for the CIA cloaked in secrecy. But the document he delivered reveals almost as much about the investigative mission he carried out in stealth as it does about the alleged abuses of power by the President.
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Looks like a victory for the wizard of oz
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Australian Government appeal at High Court of Australia has been victorious.
Dawoodi Bohra attempt to use Court of Appeal decision to not charge Dawoodi Bohra practice as a crime has been overturned.
Dawaat has lost face, money and is guilty.
Allah has sided with justice. Shame on Bohras to have wasted millions of dollars to protect their cult and ego.
We share the victory with the few who stayed the course and fought it through to the end even when India and USA folded. There will be no publicity or accolades. We did for our daughters and grand daughters.
My chapter will close. For good.
Dawoodi Bohra attempt to use Court of Appeal decision to not charge Dawoodi Bohra practice as a crime has been overturned.
Dawaat has lost face, money and is guilty.
Allah has sided with justice. Shame on Bohras to have wasted millions of dollars to protect their cult and ego.
We share the victory with the few who stayed the course and fought it through to the end even when India and USA folded. There will be no publicity or accolades. We did for our daughters and grand daughters.
My chapter will close. For good.
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Three people charged with female genital mutilation offences against two primary school-aged sisters could face further punishment after the High Court ruled the New South Wales Court of Appeal erred in quashing their convictions.
https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-10- ... fmredir=sm
https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-10- ... fmredir=sm
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Aussies and Kiwis are assuming the moral leadership that has been abandoned by the US. Be it Gun Control, treatment of white supremacy or FGM, they have acted in the interest of furthering progressivism.
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Well done Ozdundee!
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The Dawaat Lawyer a Bohra orthodox and related to the accused with deep connections in UK zadas admitted guilt of obstructing justice. He has been struck off the bar. He cannot practice law in Australia.
The price to pay for blindly following Dawaat like sheep and going against the law. He too paid a big career price.
The price to pay for blindly following Dawaat like sheep and going against the law. He too paid a big career price.
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All the media are in overdrive
Ozdundee wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:21 am https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/hig ... 53197.html
https://amp.theaustralian.com.au/nation ... 042d4948d9
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Thanks Br Oz for keeping up
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There are a handful of others, men and woman including yourself, who deserve recognition. They know who they are they visit this site regularly. A special lady who in her middle of night was up.
We will disappear into the sunset our job is done. Almost 10 year mission we hope to write a book and explain and be a history that changed course of our culture.
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If he admitted guilt to obstructing justice (I believe that is a crime, correct?), should he not be punished for it?Ozdundee wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:13 am The Dawaat Lawyer a Bohra orthodox and related to the accused with deep connections in UK zadas admitted guilt of obstructing justice. He has been struck off the bar. He cannot practice law in Australia.
The price to pay for blindly following Dawaat like sheep and going against the law. He too paid a big career price.
Why just lose license?
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This whole issue was not personal or targeted towards individuals. I don't think the authorities wanted to punish individual . That is not western correction policy. These people were pinged so they are examples to others.
Now next time after all this if someone does it again, whole different issue. Lock them up
My interest is the system needs to change. The administration in India gets the message they have to change this practice.
But what they the dawaat did instead of working towards eradication , join hands with authorities, they went head on challenging the investigation, laws, definition, and with their deep pockets, hired lawyers after lawywrs, took on a very determined prosecution that is very skilled and experienced. They got over confident and too smart. Well I hope they have learned a lesson.
Now next time after all this if someone does it again, whole different issue. Lock them up
My interest is the system needs to change. The administration in India gets the message they have to change this practice.
But what they the dawaat did instead of working towards eradication , join hands with authorities, they went head on challenging the investigation, laws, definition, and with their deep pockets, hired lawyers after lawywrs, took on a very determined prosecution that is very skilled and experienced. They got over confident and too smart. Well I hope they have learned a lesson.
dal-chaval-palidu wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:30 amIf he admitted guilt to obstructing justice (I believe that is a crime, correct?), should he not be punished for it?Ozdundee wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:13 am The Dawaat Lawyer a Bohra orthodox and related to the accused with deep connections in UK zadas admitted guilt of obstructing justice. He has been struck off the bar. He cannot practice law in Australia.
The price to pay for blindly following Dawaat like sheep and going against the law. He too paid a big career price.
Why just lose license?
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Where are levelhead, MYP, unhappy, someone going by m of Sayedna, ....so many abdes.
OzD and his supporters wish you all well you can retire peacefully and having made a difference against an ugly rich tyranny.
Whose chIcks are coming to roost.
Abdes don't read the court documents over and over. Guilty as charged. The photo will remain in every Western media, public are horrified ,so much tax payers funds wasted fighting this dirty cult, as these foolish clowns under guidance of their leadership who cannot stay away from children's clitoris ( admin even court talks about clitoris in their paper no censorship required). Again there is no more court process to appeal the High Court decision. The prime minister also reads the media, Queen was the prosecution. Wait until US UK Canada and India find out.
Save those samosa parties and gifts to politicians.
Imagine how if the case was won by Abdes.they would claim Bushra, Oz would be burnt alive on stakes, Maula's mojiza, Sultan of sultans, ek nazaar, sherbet daris,
OzD and his supporters wish you all well you can retire peacefully and having made a difference against an ugly rich tyranny.
Whose chIcks are coming to roost.
Abdes don't read the court documents over and over. Guilty as charged. The photo will remain in every Western media, public are horrified ,so much tax payers funds wasted fighting this dirty cult, as these foolish clowns under guidance of their leadership who cannot stay away from children's clitoris ( admin even court talks about clitoris in their paper no censorship required). Again there is no more court process to appeal the High Court decision. The prime minister also reads the media, Queen was the prosecution. Wait until US UK Canada and India find out.
Save those samosa parties and gifts to politicians.
Imagine how if the case was won by Abdes.they would claim Bushra, Oz would be burnt alive on stakes, Maula's mojiza, Sultan of sultans, ek nazaar, sherbet daris,
level_headed wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:18 pm It is your arrogance and shouting victory and counting your chickens before they are hatched. I have been consistently saying that Maula TUS will win because truth is with him and he is upholding Prophet SAW shariat. Australia and Detroit are proof of my argument. The Indian Supreme Court case is also not going well for you.
Now you are trying to hide with the fig leaf of false bravado and arrogance.
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There is currently India Supreme Court discussion on Bohra FGM.
This is strange
This is strange
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Do we know what happened regarding the sentencing of the three individuals who were convicted?Ozdundee wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:21 am https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/hig ... 53197.html
https://amp.theaustralian.com.au/nation ... 042d4948d9
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The discussion on the "Court Case" forum thread is far more relevant ..but I just wanted to bring to everybody's notice that Trump has hired the same lawyer (Alan Dershowitz)...the Muslim hater Jew , to his team to defend him during impeachment..
Its quite "Nasty" and sadistic for DMBS and Shz QJ to have hired the same guy(Dershowtiz) to defend Muffaddali Dawat , for the Michigan FGM case..
We all know what Trump stands for ..so doesn't it make it quite obvious that only the evil sides tend to hire the Devils' Advocate...
Definately a point to think about...
It tells a lot as as to what goes on in DMBS's head and to know DMBS's true sadistic nature ..when we see the kind of low scum people he hires.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ken-st ... e-team.amp
DMBS : Dawedar Mufaddal Bhai Saheb
Its quite "Nasty" and sadistic for DMBS and Shz QJ to have hired the same guy(Dershowtiz) to defend Muffaddali Dawat , for the Michigan FGM case..
We all know what Trump stands for ..so doesn't it make it quite obvious that only the evil sides tend to hire the Devils' Advocate...
Definately a point to think about...
It tells a lot as as to what goes on in DMBS's head and to know DMBS's true sadistic nature ..when we see the kind of low scum people he hires.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ken-st ... e-team.amp
DMBS : Dawedar Mufaddal Bhai Saheb
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isnt it also possible that they hired a muslim-hating jew because he is bloody good at what he does?Moiz_Dhaanu wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:19 am The discussion on the "Court Case" forum thread is far more relevant ..but I just wanted to bring to everybody's notice that Trump has hired the same lawyer (Alan Dershowitz)...the Muslim hater Jew , to his team to defend him during impeachment..
Its quite "Nasty" and sadistic for DMBS and Shz QJ to have hired the same guy(Dershowtiz) to defend Muffaddali Dawat , for the Michigan FGM case..
We all know what Trump stands for ..so doesn't it make it quite obvious that only the evil sides tend to hire the Devils' Advocate...
Definately a point to think about...
It tells a lot as as to what goes on in DMBS's head and to know DMBS's true sadistic nature ..when we see the kind of low scum people he hires.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ken-st ... e-team.amp
DMBS : Dawedar Mufaddal Bhai Saheb
if the jew hates muslims so much, then why would he take the case? obviously, because of the money. why would the kothar agree to pay him so much, that he forgets his hatred of muslims? maybe because he is a firecracker in legal matters and defending his clients
and i really dont think its fair to call someone scum just because of the personal view they hold
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Moiz Dhanu has inadvertently stumbled upon the truth. Dershowitz is nothing but a sellout to the highest bidder. With his defense of the President he is taking the stand that using the Presidential power to pressure a foreign power to help a President politically is sanctioned by the constitution but that an impeachment of a President somehow violates the constitution.
This is such a blatantly corrupt stance that it completely brings into question the man’s integrity and his stated intent in fighting to protect FGM. He was only doing it for the money. He is most definitely corrupt to his creaky.old bones.
This is such a blatantly corrupt stance that it completely brings into question the man’s integrity and his stated intent in fighting to protect FGM. He was only doing it for the money. He is most definitely corrupt to his creaky.old bones.
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Why are you surprised, thats a lawyers basic role in society.
UnhappyBohra wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:29 pm Moiz Dhanu has inadvertently stumbled upon the truth. Dershowitz is nothing but a sellout to the highest bidder. With his defense of the President he is taking the stand that using the Presidential power to pressure a foreign power to help a President politically is sanctioned by the constitution but that an impeachment of a President somehow violates the constitution.
This is such a blatantly corrupt stance that it completely brings into question the man’s integrity and his stated intent in fighting to protect FGM. He was only doing it for the money. He is most definitely corrupt to his creaky.old bones.
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Because Allen Dershowitz portrays himself as some sort of a defender of the constitution. Some high minded principled person above politics and self-interest. But turns out he is just another shyster lawyer.Bohra spring wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:48 pm Why are you surprised, thats a lawyers basic role in society.
UnhappyBohra wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:29 pm Moiz Dhanu has inadvertently stumbled upon the truth. Dershowitz is nothing but a sellout to the highest bidder. With his defense of the President he is taking the stand that using the Presidential power to pressure a foreign power to help a President politically is sanctioned by the constitution but that an impeachment of a President somehow violates the constitution.
This is such a blatantly corrupt stance that it completely brings into question the man’s integrity and his stated intent in fighting to protect FGM. He was only doing it for the money. He is most definitely corrupt to his creaky.old bones.
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Alan Dershowitz...So Sayedna selects his services and wins in Detroit
DJT also picks him , he may win too , probably has already because SMS barakat is transferable.
Bohras worldwide are proud their hard earned wajebat has been put to great cause. Its their jihad agaist western secularism and reforms.
DJT also picks him , he may win too , probably has already because SMS barakat is transferable.
Bohras worldwide are proud their hard earned wajebat has been put to great cause. Its their jihad agaist western secularism and reforms.
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The High Court had ruled that Dawoodi Bohra khatna is FGM and illegal, it is on record that 3 accused commited a crime. Including the lawyer who was deregistered.
The Dawaaat can reflect on the damage they inflicted on themselves and brand damage. They can now do countless lobbying to restore respect in the society , but any serious person will google it up and reconsider. There are reports law faculties and universities are already discussing the case in academic research.
The representative and followers of SMS was found as criminal and SMS is on record in Supreme Court to have rediculed.the Court process.
The prosecution decided not to follow up on resentencing due to impact on the children and likely the defence would seek a protracted retrial. Note the prosecution was more concerned about the children than the barbaric dawaaat. The point has been made.
This case was about sending a message to Dawoodi Bohra their practised is illegal and if caught again will be met with full force.
Unfortunately we all know the kothar and Amils are likely to make the mistake of playing with the law as they live in their own world. Next the case will be easier punishment severe. The Aus case is wrapped up for now.
We can truly claim MISSION ACCOMPLISHED and move on to other issues and build on the success. If I will come back it will be with a new avatar. Farewell. As we want to keep this site for future and history. I will not delete my profile.
The Dawaaat can reflect on the damage they inflicted on themselves and brand damage. They can now do countless lobbying to restore respect in the society , but any serious person will google it up and reconsider. There are reports law faculties and universities are already discussing the case in academic research.
The representative and followers of SMS was found as criminal and SMS is on record in Supreme Court to have rediculed.the Court process.
The prosecution decided not to follow up on resentencing due to impact on the children and likely the defence would seek a protracted retrial. Note the prosecution was more concerned about the children than the barbaric dawaaat. The point has been made.
This case was about sending a message to Dawoodi Bohra their practised is illegal and if caught again will be met with full force.
Unfortunately we all know the kothar and Amils are likely to make the mistake of playing with the law as they live in their own world. Next the case will be easier punishment severe. The Aus case is wrapped up for now.
We can truly claim MISSION ACCOMPLISHED and move on to other issues and build on the success. If I will come back it will be with a new avatar. Farewell. As we want to keep this site for future and history. I will not delete my profile.
MohammedG wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:00 pmDo we know what happened regarding the sentencing of the three individuals who were convicted?Ozdundee wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:21 am https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/hig ... 53197.html
https://amp.theaustralian.com.au/nation ... 042d4948d9
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Ozrundee- please take rebirth
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Malaysia's anti-FGM advocates: Leave our bodies alone
Advocates for abolition of female circumcision say it has no medical benefit for women nor religious basis.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/02/ ... 06826.html
Advocates for abolition of female circumcision say it has no medical benefit for women nor religious basis.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/02/ ... 06826.html
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A mother, a former nurse and a Sydney Islamic leader will face a retrial over claims relating to the genital mutilation of two sisters after the long-running case went to the High Court.level_headed wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 12:08 pm https://www.youngwitness.com.au/story/6 ... d/?cs=9397
The trio was found guilty by a NSW Supreme Court jury in 2015, but three years later the NSW Court of Criminal Appeal quashed the convictions.
The Crown went to the High Court, which ruled the appeal court erred in acquitting them.
The case then returned to the NSW court of appeal, which on Friday ruled again to quash the convictions but said the trio should face a retrial.
The mother of the girls, who cannot be named for legal reasons, and midwife Kubra Magennis had been found guilty of "mutilating the clitoris" of the two primary school-aged sisters.
Dawoodi Bohra sect community leader Shabbir Mohammedbhai Vaziri was found guilty of being an accessory to their mutilation.
The case will go before the Supreme Court arraignments list on March 6.
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Hilarious Level dumb keep reading and waiting. Shows how shallow your intellect is.
level_headed wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 3:57 pmA mother, a former nurse and a Sydney Islamic leader will face a retrial over claims relating to the genital mutilation of two sisters after the long-running case went to the High Court.level_headed wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2020 12:08 pm https://www.youngwitness.com.au/story/6 ... d/?cs=9397
The trio was found guilty by a NSW Supreme Court jury in 2015, but three years later the NSW Court of Criminal Appeal quashed the convictions.
The Crown went to the High Court, which ruled the appeal court erred in acquitting them.
The case then returned to the NSW court of appeal, which on Friday ruled again to quash the convictions but said the trio should face a retrial.
The mother of the girls, who cannot be named for legal reasons, and midwife Kubra Magennis had been found guilty of "mutilating the clitoris" of the two primary school-aged sisters.
Dawoodi Bohra sect community leader Shabbir Mohammedbhai Vaziri was found guilty of being an accessory to their mutilation.
The case will go before the Supreme Court arraignments list on March 6.