Dawoodi Bohra Jaman starts and ends with tasting of Salt

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pardesi
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Re: Dawoodi Bohra Jaman starts and ends with tasting of Salt

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Unread post by pardesi » Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:26 pm

Add on the interest ;) Now dont tell me its haram. You did pay interest on your car loan didn't you?

No seriously, I remember when I asked for the donation I said if you could skip a cup of coffee a day which would roughly amount to 50 cents a day for a month. Totalling $15. Its besides the point now. The kid is dead and you couldn't afford to donate then. Hopefully you will get another opportunity in this lifetime.

By the way, you were away for a while. Everything OK?

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra Jaman starts and ends with tasting of Salt

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Unread post by Muslim First » Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:59 pm

have noticed quite a big difference in your writing style/skills from one post to another. Spell errors, grammer, rhetoric, knowledge etc.
I am a bad speller and I have grammer problem. When I am in a mood I take time and use spellcheck. As far as grammer is concerned I employ secretary who has majored in english and she types my business correspondance.
I wanted to know who started calling them rightly guided and on what basis, specially the first three.
Frankley speaking I do not know who started calling them rightly guided. and do not care to know. History indicates that 1,2 & 3 did O.K. May be shias do not agree! Who cares.

Ya Allah Madad

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra Jaman starts and ends with tasting of Salt

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Unread post by Muslim First » Wed Feb 06, 2008 5:01 pm

I forgot spell-check

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra Jaman starts and ends with tasting of Salt

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Unread post by Muslim First » Wed Feb 06, 2008 5:08 pm

Please confirm your # everytime you guys post something under MF handle.
You Agakhanis are suspicious bunch of people. All that 'Taqiya', denials, etc. etc.

Be assured I am posting under only one name and nobody else post under my name.

Now do you believe that Qur'an has extra 10 chapters?

Ya Allah Madad

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra Jaman starts and ends with tasting of Salt

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Unread post by pardesi » Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:24 pm

quote:

"Frankley speaking I do not know who started calling them rightly guided. and do not care to know. History indicates that 1,2 & 3 did O.K. May be shias do not agree! Who cares.

Ya Allah Madad"

Now thats a reasonable answer. I am taking my argument to an appropriate forum so do not expect me to answer here. As for spell, grammer etc. I did not intend to poke fun at you. We are all aliens here and english is not our mother tongue and we all make mistakes sometimes. It is just that there was a noted difference in the tone that made me think there were more than one MF.

Regards.

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra Jaman starts and ends with tasting of Salt

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Unread post by Muslim First » Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:33 pm

So Gurusevak and Pardesi is same person?

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra Jaman starts and ends with tasting of Salt

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Unread post by Above Average Bohra » Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:30 pm

pardesi,

I couldn't skip coffee and save 50 cents because I don't drink coffee. Now, tell me, why wasn't the Hazar Imam able to donate $25 to save a dying Ismaili? Isn't he your leader? Or have you been trained to ask "wahhabis" for handouts?

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra Jaman starts and ends with tasting of Salt

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Unread post by pardesi » Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:52 pm

MF,
NO. Gursevak is a different person than me. I do not hide behind more than one handle like some on this board.

Anajmi,
Good excuse for not donating. How do you know that the Aga Khan or his institutions did not donate. When someone comes to your door you do not ask why the neighbor didn't help. You help if you can and don't if you can't. The nature of charity is such that you do not donate depending on how much the other person is donating. One thing is for sure, I know the Aga Khan institutions donate/help in a broader way where the general public can be helped regardless of their faith, ethnicity, color etc. If it was documented that he or his institutions helped one person individually then people like you would still cry foul, wouldn't you?

The problem with your lot is that you tie everything to money. Money can't save life. Charity is not about money, its about being their for a fellow human. You think your $10 or $15 would have really saved that kid?

Grow up and atleast smell the "Coffee" you idiot, if you do not drink coffee. It might wake you up and see things in correct perspective.

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra Jaman starts and ends with tasting of Salt

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Unread post by Above Average Bohra » Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:12 pm

pardesi,

If money is not everything then stop asking me why I didn't donate $30!!
How do you know that the Aga Khan or his institutions did not donate.
If they did donate then why the hell do you keep asking "wahhabis" for handouts? Addat se majboor?

I don't think my $35 or $40 could've saved the kid, but that is something that you, an Ismaili idiot, should realize and stop asking about it in every other post. I help a lot of people and a dying Ismaili is at the bottom of my priority list because they have a Hazar Imam who is supposed to take of sick and dying Ismailis (which most of them are - sick) because he gets bucket loads of money from handouts from Ismaili idiots and racing horses. The money that I donate is my hard earned money, and I have to be careful to help only those that can't get help elsewhere and even then, I can help only a few.

So next time you feel like begging in front of a "wahhabi" for an Ismaili, realize what the "wahhabi" will say about your Hazar Imam!!

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra Jaman starts and ends with tasting of Salt

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Unread post by pardesi » Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:16 pm

At this rate the amount will be close to $100. Better pay the original $10 to some needy and do astaghfar. Allah, I am sure will forgive the interest.

"A dying Ismaili is at the bottom of my priority list"

You didn't say that, say so. Prioritising charity according to ones faith? Shame on you.

"I have to be careful to help only those that can't get help elsewhere"

If everyone had the same criteria then no one would get a dime in charity. Is it your loophole to give less in charity. Are you an accountant?

I am not begging for charity from you my brother, just showing you the mirror. Dont you get tired of coming up with excuses?

Lets end it here. I do not want you to feel embarassed. Thanks for your understanding.

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra Jaman starts and ends with tasting of Salt

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Unread post by Above Average Bohra » Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:31 pm

pardesi,

I don't feel embarassed. Haven't you learnt anything yet?
Prioritising charity according to ones faith? Shame on you.
Shame on you and your Hazar Imam for leaving dying Ismailis to beg in front of wahhabis!!
If everyone had the same criteria then no one would get a dime in charity.
Ismaili stupidity on display in all its colors. The people that I help get more than a dime in charity with that criteria. Leave it at that, it's too difficult for you to understand.

Besides, you shouldn't be worried about my charities. Just worry about how an Ismaili died because the Hazar Imam didn't give him an extra $45 and he had to go asking a wahhabi for help.

I don't have to look for excuses to show the finger to Ismaili idiots. How do I even know there was a dying Ismaili and it wasn't just the Hazar Imam trying to skim me out of $50? Infact, the way you've been trying to get me to take a ride on the guilt train, I am pretty sure it was a scam. Aren't you ashamed of using a dead Ismaili?

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra Jaman starts and ends with tasting of Salt

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Unread post by SBM » Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:49 pm

Salaams All
Areef asked a simple question about Salt in Bohra custom and as usual few on this board hijacked it to create animosity and start accusation and arguments just for the sake of proving I am right and everyone else is wrong.
SHAME, SHAME, SHAME..........

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra Jaman starts and ends with tasting of Salt

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Unread post by Above Average Bohra » Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:40 am

omabharti,

You are right. Ismaili idiots can do that to pretty much every thread.

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra Jaman starts and ends with tasting of Salt

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Unread post by pardesi » Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:27 am

My apologies for getting carried away here. I have taken my thoughts to a proper forum. Its just that the two goons, MF and Anajmi behind the veil, bring out the best in everyone. ;)

I have the utmost respect for people who are civil, including the Bohras, whether Progressives or Orthodox. I do not go attack other's belief. I believe in defending what I think is right. You guys won't see me on this forum unless absolutely necessary.

C'mon Anajmi, shall we open a new thread called "Charity". I am itching to put your finger where it belongs and the spot is on your body, not mine.

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra Jaman starts and ends with tasting of Salt

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Unread post by Above Average Bohra » Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:44 pm

pardesi,

Is that normal for you? Playing with other people's fingers and putting them in their bodies? There is no need for that. The itch that I had has been taken care of. ;)

You can keep itching.

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra Jaman starts and ends with tasting of Salt

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Unread post by pardesi » Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:51 pm

:cool:

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra Jaman starts and ends with tasting of Salt

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Unread post by mumineen » Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:40 pm

Pardesi:

Have you got an open mind, an empty mind or your mind went blank when sending the prior missive?

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Re: Dawoodi Bohra Jaman starts and ends with tasting of Salt

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Unread post by pardesi » Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:04 am

No I just wanted to look cool. That means I am cool with whatever Anajmi has to say, good or bad. She likes me that way!

Besides my presence on this forum is upsetting so that was my way to reply.

Thanks.