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Muslim First
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Unread post by Muslim First » Mon Feb 16, 2004 8:21 pm

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"Mumineen feed others in the name of Imam Husain (SA) each day in these ayyaam. And take great barakat thereof. O my dear children, I too want to feed you in the name of Husain (SA). In all bilad imaniya all over the world, niyaz on the 9th of Muharram will be from me. Accept my dawat and my izzan and eat well and with tamakkun in the name of Husain (SA)"

Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin (TUS)
Waaz, 6th Muharram 1424, Mumbai
Why not feed people in the name of Allah SWT?
Or why not eat in the name of Allah SWT?

Imaam Hussain is dead. He can not do anything for you. Pray to Allah SWT.

Wasalaam

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MOHD HUSSAIN
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Re: Question?

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Unread post by MOHD HUSSAIN » Mon Feb 16, 2004 10:33 pm

Well did you forget his father Syedna Taher Saifuddin claimed to be God on earth so Burhanuddin is son Of God!

Muhsin
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Re: Question?

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Unread post by Muhsin » Tue Feb 17, 2004 6:19 am

To all brothers and sisters,

Now Muharram is approaching, Ashura is approaching.This is the great time to ask Allah to guide Syedna Burhanundeen, his elite and the Kothar gang in the correct path.

Certainly, they are misguiding us to the wrong path for their personal benefit and keep exploiting us for generations.If we follow them certainly we will be HELL in the hereafter also we have no place in this world.

Before it becomes too late Please be wiser!Come out from this mind set.

May Allah guide all of us in a right path.

Muhsin

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Re: Question?

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Unread post by Muhsin » Tue Feb 17, 2004 6:29 am

posted 02-16-2004 06:33 PM
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Well did you forget his father Syedna Taher Saifuddin claimed to be God on earth so Burhanuddin is son Of God!
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Yes, Mohd Hussein

This is what i told you we are much closer to other religions than Islam, if we follow this old man. This case, we are much closer to christianity than Islam!

In the case of caste system we are much closer to Hinduism than Islam.

Certainly, we astray. May Allah guide us to the correct path.I don't know what would be the condition of our relatives who died .Indeed, if we know the truth and still follow the same then we have no excuse.THIS IS VERY SERIOUS THING!

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Muslim First
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Re: Question?

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Unread post by Muslim First » Tue Feb 17, 2004 12:40 pm

"If you do buka and matam of Husain (SA) tomorrow, then rest assured, the effect of the dua that was recited on Ashura 1400 years ago wil reach you"

Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin (TUS)
Waaz, 9th Muharram 1424, Mumbai
What is this man talking?

Whay not pray Salah and fast of Ashura? If you are troubled by tragedy of Karballa pray extra Nafl prayers to clam your heart.

Remember it is you who you want to save from hell. Imaam Hussain RA is dead. He will be judged on his own deeds by Allah SWT. Praying to him or for him or thru him will not work.

Wasallam

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Re: Question?

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Unread post by Muslim First » Tue Feb 17, 2004 7:01 pm

"The hour for which you have been waiting a year, in anticipation of doing matam of Imam Husain (SA) at asr on Ashura is at hand."

Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin (TUS)
Waaz, 10th Muharram 1424, Mumbai
Is it not Ibadat of Allah SWT better than Maatam?

Please pray your regular prayers at Asr on all Days.

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Re: Question?

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Unread post by porus » Tue Feb 17, 2004 7:15 pm

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"The hour for which you have been waiting a year, in anticipation of doing matam of Imam Husain (SA) at asr on Ashura is at hand."

Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin (TUS)
Waaz, 10th Muharram 1424, Mumbai

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Should it have been "The hour for which you have been practicing every day doing the matam of Husain is at hand".

Amazing how Sayedna has turned a solemn commemoration into a frenzy of breast beating at almost every gathering throughout the year and thereby destroying the very meaning of an annual commemoration.

Wish you a good maatam! And have a good pur-josh one in Dubai!!

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Re: Question?

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Unread post by Muslim First » Wed Feb 18, 2004 12:15 pm

"Rasulullah (SAW) asked Muslimeen if he was dearer to them than their lives before declaring Ali (SA) as Maula of all for whom he was Maula. For mumineen, their Maula is dearer to them than their own lives"
Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin (TUS)
Waaz, 8th Muharram 1424, Mumbai
Yet of mankind are some who take unto themselves (objects of worship which they set as) rivals to Allah, loving them with a love like (that which is the due) of Allah (only)--Those who believe are stauncher in their love for Allah--Oh, that those who do evil had but known, (on the day) when they behold the doom, that power belongeth wholly to Allah, and that Allah is severe in punishment!(On the day) when those who were followed disown those who followed (them), and they behold the doom, and all their aims collapse with them. And those who were but followers will say: If a return were possible for us, we would disown them even as they have disowned us. Thus will Allah show them their own deeds as anguish for them, and they will not emerge from the Fire. (Al-Bakrah 165-167)

Since the love for the sake of Allah is deepest bond of faith, as mentioned in Hadith: “The strongest bond of faith is love for the sake of Allah” the only way of achieving this bond and allying yourself to Allah by following the Sharih which Muhammad SAW braught to us. Other then this , there is no other means, so whoever follows other path to this goal is liar, just as pagans who claim to draw near Allah by worshipping something other then Him. Allah says;

Surely Pure religion is for Allah only. And those who choose protecting friends beside Him (say): We worship them only that they may bring us near unto Allah. Lo! Allah will judge between them concerning that wherein they differ. Lo! Allah guideth not him who is a liar, an ingrate. (Az-Zuumar 3)

Yet all the while they adhere to their rejection of authority of His messengers, abandon their obligation and immerse themselves in what has been forbidden to them (Ibn Rajab, “Ja’mi al-Ulum wal-Hakim”, p-136)

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Tasneem
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Re: Question?

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Unread post by Tasneem » Sat Apr 24, 2004 5:02 pm

Originally posted by Muslim First:
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"Mumineen feed others in the name of Imam Husain (SA) each day in these ayyaam. And take great barakat thereof. O my dear children, I too want to feed you in the name of Husain (SA). In all bilad imaniya all over the world, niyaz on the 9th of Muharram will be from me. Accept my dawat and my izzan and eat well and with tamakkun in the name of Husain (SA)"

Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin (TUS)
Waaz, 6th Muharram 1424, Mumbai
Why not feed people in the name of Allah SWT?
Or why not eat in the name of Allah SWT?

Imaam Hussain is dead. He can not do anything for you. Pray to Allah SWT.

Wasalaam

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It is during moharram, dedicated to Imam Hussain (as) and so we say salawat on Imam Hussain (as) which is why he said i'm feeding you on his name...the food is always in the name of Allah no matter what...

As a matter of fact, He (as) does do things for us, and who told you we don't pray, we do, so what was the use of that statement?

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Re: Question?

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Unread post by Tasneem » Sat Apr 24, 2004 5:03 pm

Originally posted by MOHD HUSSAIN:
Well did you forget his father Syedna Taher Saifuddin claimed to be God on earth so Burhanuddin is son Of God!
He (ra) would never say so...That would be out of question...do you have any proof?

Tasneem
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Re: Question?

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Unread post by Tasneem » Sat Apr 24, 2004 5:08 pm

Originally posted by Muhsin:
To all brothers and sisters,

Now Muharram is approaching, Ashura is approaching.This is the great time to ask Allah to guide Syedna Burhanundeen, his elite and the Kothar gang in the correct path.

Certainly, they are misguiding us to the wrong path for their personal benefit and keep exploiting us for generations.If we follow them certainly we will be HELL in the hereafter also we have no place in this world.

Before it becomes too late Please be wiser!Come out from this mind set.

May Allah guide all of us in a right path.

Muhsin
YOU need the guidance buddy! thank you for your prayers but we're already on the right path ;)

why do you say 'misguiding US ' if you think we're misguiding you than leave our community. If you want to seek help and take away your uncertainty than seek help, just sitting down and whining doesn't do anything. so stop including yourself as a member of our community because that would just label you a hypocrite. By the likes of it, you are the one that seems closer to hell so you watch out and open your eyes and walk on the right path before it is too late for YOU!

Tasneem
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Re: Question?

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Unread post by Tasneem » Sat Apr 24, 2004 5:16 pm

Originally posted by Muslim First:
"If you do buka and matam of Husain (SA) tomorrow, then rest assured, the effect of the dua that was recited on Ashura 1400 years ago wil reach you"

Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin (TUS)
Waaz, 9th Muharram 1424, Mumbai
What is this man talking?

Whay not pray Salah and fast of Ashura? If you are troubled by tragedy of Karballa pray extra Nafl prayers to clam your heart.

Remember it is you who you want to save from hell. Imaam Hussain RA is dead. He will be judged on his own deeds by Allah SWT. Praying to him or for him or thru him will not work.

Wasallam

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we do pray and fast on Ashoora as well as other ibadats! calm our hearts...can one ever calm their hearts hearing of such a tradgedy? No matter how much you pray whatever you do, you can never 'calm your heart'... and it was meant to be so!

Rasulullah (saw) said that no shaheed dies, he is always alive... are you saying that rasulullah (saw) is lying? Imam Hussain (as) is physically dead but he is alive through other means and will be there till the day of Qayamat.
No one prays for him or to him :roll: and as for through him, if you mean wasila than It is stated in the Quran:

O mumineen seek wasila towards Allah

Tasneem
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Re: Question?

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Unread post by Tasneem » Sat Apr 24, 2004 5:20 pm

Originally posted by Muslim First:
"The hour for which you have been waiting a year, in anticipation of doing matam of Imam Husain (SA) at asr on Ashura is at hand."

Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin (TUS)
Waaz, 10th Muharram 1424, Mumbai
Is it not Ibadat of Allah SWT better than Maatam?

Please pray your regular prayers at Asr on all Days.

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It isn't like we skip the prayers or something. Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin (tus) is very punctual about prayer times and always prays on time and so do we during moharram. JFYI the waaz and matam end by Asr and then we pray...so we do ibadat properly thank you very much!

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Re: Question?

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Unread post by Tasneem » Sat Apr 24, 2004 5:24 pm

Originally posted by porus:
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"The hour for which you have been waiting a year, in anticipation of doing matam of Imam Husain (SA) at asr on Ashura is at hand."

Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin (TUS)
Waaz, 10th Muharram 1424, Mumbai

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Should it have been "The hour for which you have been practicing every day doing the matam of Husain is at hand".

Amazing how Sayedna has turned a solemn commemoration into a frenzy of breast beating at almost every gathering throughout the year and thereby destroying the very meaning of an annual commemoration.

Wish you a good maatam! And have a good pur-josh one in Dubai!!
Are you saying that your grief for Imam Hussain (as) is only to the limit where you can shed tears and do matam for the first 10 days of the first month. Is that all he is worth to you. I am sorry porus but Imam Hussain's (as) sacrifice is worth much much much more. It should be remembered every day of our lives because if it wasn't for him, islam would have been destroyed which would mean our only chance to go to heaven. Such a sacrifice and ehsan should not ever be forgotten, don't you think?

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Re: Question?

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Unread post by Tasneem » Sat Apr 24, 2004 5:28 pm

If you follow Rasulullah's (saw) sharia and the Quran, you would follow Moulana Ali (as) and the imams to follow, so i don't see your point there Muslim First.