website of progressive dawoodi bohra

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pro_pig
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website of progressive dawoodi bohra

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Unread post by pro_pig » Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:41 pm

I like to know when the last time this site was updated.

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Unread post by Gulf » Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:50 pm

this website founder gone astray..

it has to be happened, so happened.. DONE :D

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:02 pm

piggy why not update it yrself, since u visit here everyday to post yr filth and abuse?

the reformists lack funds earned from haraam ni kamai like yr bhagwan maula. since you are so concerned, go and steal some money from the gallas placed in raudat tahera and use it here..!!

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Unread post by ponga bhori » Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:04 pm

Al-Zulfi,

Haram moneys is only for making Kothari Toilets, for all to shit.
Do not need their haram moneys here.

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Unread post by pro_pig » Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:28 am

zulfi,
so your job is to steal money frm gallas?huh huh that your maula tell u to do.

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Thu Nov 22, 2007 12:45 pm

piggy brains,

ha ha, so u fell into my trap at last..!! :D

u are asking me about teaching u to steal?????!! learn from yr greatest dai whose corpse lies buried in raudat tahera, who stole like a cowardly thief from chandabhai seth's galla and purchased a grand mahal for himself.

the rascal did it by conniving with the chief trustee and breaking the locks in the dead of the night! so asking u to steal from a thief and his robber family is not a crime, esp when u will use it for a noble cause here.

so everytime u go to raudat tahera, steal a bit from the biggest sardar of the thieves who lies wasted underground..

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Thu Nov 22, 2007 12:52 pm

considering that the present syedna has some forty odd sons, i have decided to name them (with great fanfare of course, which will include an international scout band competition, a massive parade in london which will include lions, camels, elephants and donkeys, and a huge fund raising drive where every bohra will pay 152 dollars etc)

"" ALI BABA ANE CHAALIS CHOR"" :D

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Unread post by Gulf » Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:15 pm

Originally posted by Al Zulfiqar:
considering that the present syedna has some forty odd sons, a huge fund raising drive where every bohra will pay 152 dollars etc)

"" ALI BABA ANE CHAALIS CHOR"" :D
Zalfakir,
mind your language, you will be punished soon.

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Unread post by pro_pig » Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:24 pm

gulf,
zulfi does not have language he speak frm his maula(engineer)a.ss he eat a,ss he drink pee what else i can say bec there is no word for that rascal i wish his parents has slap him when he was teenager so this time would not come.

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Unread post by Gursevak » Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:34 pm

U know guys this whole progressive thing got me confused. what is the point. what don't u like about traditional bohra. if u don't like idea of imam then become sunni. if u agree with imamship but not daiship then become 12er. if u agree daiship ok but current one not real then sorry u will have to start ur own religion. there is no reform in religion.

atheism is a very nice alternative hehehehe

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Unread post by ponga bhori » Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:39 pm

Originally posted by Gursevak:
U know guys this whole progressive thing got me confused. what is the point. what don't u like about traditional bohra. if u don't like idea of imam then become sunni. if u agree with imamship but not daiship then become 12er. if u agree daiship ok but current one not real then sorry u will have to start ur own religion. there is no reform in religion.

atheism is a very nice alternative hehehehe
GuruSevak,

The Progressives (as I understand):
Like and Agree to the Immam,
Agree and believe Current Dai real,

Reform is not in the Dawoodi-Bohra RELIGION,
The REFORM in how it is being conducted and highjacked by the "Kothar": the 40 sons
It is not the Dai,"stupid" :)
It is also agreed he is MASOOM as made out by everyone.

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Unread post by Gursevak » Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:59 pm

then all the gaalis to the syedna are from non-progressives?

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:34 pm

Originally posted by Gursevak:
U know guys this whole progressive thing got me confused.
u were born confused..u are a bohra, who has an id of a sikh, who does not know his front from his back and who does not know what the reformist struggle is all about although he takes great pleasure in coming to their site to post crap without his guru nanak's raza..!! :eek: :confused:

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:39 pm

Originally posted by Gulf:


"" ALI BABA ANE CHAALIS CHOR"" :D
Zalfakir,
mind your language, you will be punished soon.[/QB]
talk about the punishment u have got from ali baba ane chalis chor..inspite of bending down to them and feeding them and showering them with money, they keep widening the "GULF" between yr rear cheeks until it has become a garage door! subconsciously, the intense pain that u are suffering has prompted u to name yrself 'gulf'. ;)

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Unread post by tahir » Fri Nov 23, 2007 4:56 am

Originally posted by Gursevak:
then all the gaalis to the syedna are from non-progressives?
You got it...

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Unread post by tahir » Fri Nov 23, 2007 5:01 am

Admin,
I think some new articles should be put up.

pro pig,
Thanks for bringing up the issue.

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Unread post by tahir » Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:12 am

Originally posted by Gursevak:
if u agree daiship ok but current one not real then sorry u will have to start ur own religion. there is no reform in religion.
Reformists don't want reform in religion. They want to fix the "social" customs that are not part of the bohra religion.

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Unread post by Nobigotry » Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:56 am

They want to fix the "social" customs that are not part of the bohra religion.
Is not religion a "set" of beliefs and customs (call them rituals if you prefer)? Does not religion have to be viewed within a social context - it cannot exist in a vacuum. Are you saying that the current Bohra hierarchy has changed the practices completely? Like Gursevak I too am a bit confused - what is the Dai's role; does he not (in consultation with the Imam)make whatever changes considered necessary? Does not the Imam put Islam in a modern context? We will have to ignore the wahabis as they will come up with their usual nonsense about the Imam's role.

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Unread post by tahir » Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:19 am

Originally posted by Nobigotry:
Does not the Imam put Islam in a modern context?
I would be glad if that was the case.

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Unread post by tahir » Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:30 am

Nobigotry,
Sorry bro I am too tired to take up that debate. There is enough material on the home page as well as the forums of this site to indicate that what Bohra Dai is doing is not a 'modern interpretetion' of Islam.

Besides, dai is not Imam. Even his remote links with Imam are dubious (the 'mutlaq' issue). He is NOT infalliable. He is very much prone to succumb to personal interests. This is when reforms are needed to bring him back on track.

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Unread post by Admin » Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:28 pm

Thanks for bringing up this topic. We'll put up some new articles soon. We also intend to completely overhaul the site with a new design and content format. We'll keep you posted.