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you are not right !

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Unread post by Guest » Wed Aug 07, 2002 12:14 am

Dear brothers and sisters..<br>dear dawoodis what u do in salah in hajj in ramadhan ...in every aspect in religion is almost perfect inshallah...but i am afraid that u r not following the right dai.i dont want to make u angry but ask about the real dai in arabia.believe me believe me belive me<br>he is the real dai on earth !

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Unread post by Guest » Wed Aug 07, 2002 1:01 am

All religions are right in their own context.

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Unread post by Guest » Wed Aug 07, 2002 1:07 am

seen this dai..?

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Unread post by Guest » Wed Aug 07, 2002 5:44 pm

And the name of this Dai??????????????

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Unread post by Guest » Wed Aug 07, 2002 6:03 pm

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Unread post by Guest » Wed Aug 07, 2002 9:38 pm

DEAR JINX ..<br>YES I HAVE SEEN THIS DAI..i am one of his followers..we are both muslims ismailies and<br>arabs..

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Unread post by Guest » Thu Aug 08, 2002 12:14 am

Could it be Dai Al-Makrimi?<p><br>from: http://www.dawoodi-bohras.com/ubb/Forum ... l<p>posted 01-21-2002 02:04 PM ET (US) <br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Search,<br>We know you pray the same as Dawoodi Bohras. You also asked why we have two Sayednas?<p>For my information, please tell us more about your Dai.<p>What is his name?<br>Where does he reside?<br>How old is he?<br>How many followers does he have?<br>What is the sect called?<br>How is the succession decided?<br> <br>search posted 01-21-2002 02:39 PM ET (US) <br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>BROTER Pour,<br>for us as a minority in a dominating sunni <br>community,passing information about our faith<br>is sometimes dangerous even by the internet.<br>but I feel you are an openminded person ...so<br>listen........<br>Mr Al-makrami.<br>najran al-mansourah.<br>followers about 150.000<br>in najran .only 5.000 in yemen haraz.<br>sect:ismaili.<br>the succession is decided by the dai.<br> <br>

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Unread post by Guest » Thu Aug 08, 2002 1:23 am

can u please give us some more information on this

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Unread post by Guest » Thu Aug 08, 2002 4:44 am

I think I know this Dai(Al-Makrimi). It was long time ago but I came across some Ismaili from Saudiya that follow him.

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Unread post by Guest » Thu Aug 08, 2002 8:03 pm

Dear Brother Mokhtar,<br>I know your mind is on your sick relative right now, and I will pray for him! But when you have the chance, could you please give me answers on what ismailis in najran believe today about Imam?? Brother Qiyam thinks Imam may be living in Yemen. I asked him if he heard of the tradition that the Imam is secluded in Shamrukh, a valley in Yemen? But he says that is a twelver belief. I also suggested about Imam's seclusion that the Imam is present somewhere in a community of the faithful every generation, and that his son takes his place at the appropriate time in another community. His baab, hujjat, etc. are members of the community where he is resident, and are gifted with an awareness of who he is (obviously kept in secret or confidence). What do you think?? Has your Dai Al-Makrimi ever spoken about this?? Salaams....Serendipity <br>

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Unread post by Guest » Fri Aug 09, 2002 10:06 am

Mokhtar<br>We also have some Ismailis in Yemen who neither follow Sayedna Burhanuddin or Dai Al-Makami. <p>I wish you good luck in life. And please if you could drop by here and post some news about your Dai we would appreciate it.

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Unread post by Guest » Sat Aug 10, 2002 11:03 am

Something I read:<br>______<p>Across town from Sheik Sa'ab's villa, spokesmen for the General Presidency of Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vices, a government-sponsored organization that enforces Saudi Arabia's brand of Islam, and Al Dawa, which is dedicated to propagating the true faith, say Najran is a focal area for religious authorities because of Sunni rejection of Ismaili religious practices.<p> "These people are infidels because they do not follow the Sunna," or the tradition of the Prophet Muhammed, says Sheik Ali Khursan, a bearded Dawa official. "They don't believe that the Quran is complete and they hate the Sunnis."<p>To emphasize his point, Sheik Khursan quotes 14th-century Islamic scholar Ibn Tammiya, whose writings have contributed to the ideological underpinnings of Islamic militants -- including Osama bin Laden -- as saying about the Ismailis: <br> <br> "We don't eat their food, we don't intermarry with them, we should not pray for their dead or allow them to be buried in our cemeteries."<p>http://www.wsjclassroomedition.com/tj_0 ... .htm<p><br>

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Unread post by Guest » Sat Aug 10, 2002 2:19 pm

RE: "the government-sponsored organization that enforces Saudi Arabia's brand of Islam ...quotes 14th-century Islamic scholar Ibn<br>Tammiya, whose writings have contributed to the ideological underpinnings of Islamic<br>militants -- including Osama bin Laden -- as saying about the Ismailis: 'We don't eat their food, we don't intermarry with them, we should not pray for their dead or allow them to be buried in our cemeteries.' VISUALIZE CLEARLY Brothers and Sisters the WITHERING AWAY of this wahabi blot upon islam! ALLAH does not desire the poisonous tribe of Saudi or its atheistic partner, Saddam oppressor of the shia, to continue in this world....Bush and his fools can do NOTHING to get rid of them, but earnest PRAYER for the lifting of this yoke can accomplish EVERYTHING! The same clear oil from the Quranic tree of Light that pours forth to refresh us, will be unto them a consuming Fire.<br>

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Unread post by Guest » Sat Aug 10, 2002 3:47 pm

Excerpt from the above posted by malik:<br>"Across town from Sheik Sa'ab's villa, spokesmen for the General Presidency of Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vices, a government-sponsored organization that enforces Saudi Arabia's brand of Islam, and Al Dawa, which is dedicated to propagating the true faith..."<p>--Propagating the true faith---<p>We have a few of them right here to steer the bohras in that true path!

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Unread post by Guest » Sat Aug 10, 2002 4:11 pm

can i ask ( afraid i ll get no response)<p>What is being done to help ismailis in suadi arabia?

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Unread post by Guest » Mon Sep 23, 2002 8:57 am

The only Dai who is carrying on the Daawat of Imam-uz-zamaan is Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin(tus).

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Unread post by Guest » Mon Sep 23, 2002 3:30 pm

huzaif,<br>Tell your dai to secure his rights by registering in the U.S patent office so as to avoid any TEXMATI type of episode.

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Unread post by Guest » Mon Sep 23, 2002 8:28 pm

<br>Br. Huzaif<p>Can I see Authorization letter signed by Imaam in Hiding appointin Syedana sole selling agent?<p>

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Unread post by Guest » Tue Sep 24, 2002 2:54 am

There are many gross violations of human rights in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. I wonder what can be done about this?<p>posted 08-10-2002 01:11 PM ET (US) <br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>can i ask ( afraid i ll get no response)<br>What is being done to help ismailis in suadi arabia?

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Unread post by Guest » Tue Sep 24, 2002 3:01 am

Br Huzaif<br>I don’t see how that is possible. The Imam UZ Zaman has also appointed Dai of Najran and Dai of Sulaymani Bohras. Not forgetting our brother the Shias who’s Ayahtullah are working on the behalf of Imam Uz Zaman. <p>Like what Steve said, you gotta patent your Dai. Insha Allah for the period of 25 years- Bohras Dai would be able to solely claim to be working for the Dawat of Imam uz Zaman<p>huzaif posted 09-23-2002 05:57 AM ET (US) <br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>The only Dai who is carrying on the Daawat of Imam-uz-zamaan is Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin(tus).

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Unread post by huzaif » Thu Oct 17, 2002 8:29 am

jinx,

You have poison in your heart. It will surely kill you. Take me seriously or else it will be too late. I am your best well-wisher. Do not go overboard in trying to degrade the institutions of God. You will have to pay for it.

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Unread post by raheel » Thu Oct 17, 2002 10:10 am

Yes they will pay for it one day . these people who call themselves as reformists will one day end up in hell

raheel