Where are the dignitaries?

[Africawala]

Just looked up the mumineen site under the subject "dignitaries' reception". Where are the dignitaries? Anybody knows which dignitaries attended the reception? I only see a framed letter from "somebody" and some white robbed topiwallas. May be the bohoras are inthe business of collecting autographs during Mola's visit.

[MOHD HUSSAIN]

Guess what? Our compaign to Govt Officials is working & they are all avoiding to see & greet a person with questionable credentials & purpose of his visit!Where on the earth is Love4 mola & other Abde Syednas to explain this phenomenon in Boston?

[mumin110]

Hey Son of...

I had sworn never to come back to this God forsaken website but am compelled to.. Though I would recommend that Mumineen dont respond to these Munaqeen as Allah is watching and they will meet their eventual fate in Hell...
But anyways here goes.. For your reply ::

"Aqa Maula TUS met with various Dignitaries at a welcome function which was attended by US Congressman Marty Meehan (rep. for the 5th District of Massachusetts), State Representative Barry Finegold & State Representative William Greene. "

[mumin110]

http://www.lowellsun.com/Stories/0,1413 ... 95,00.html

Meehan was joined by state Rep. Bill Greene of Billerica and Rep. Barry Finegold of Andover, along with a host of town officials, in welcoming the Dawoodi Bohra community to Billerica. U.S. Sen. Edward Kennedy also sent along his best wishes, though he was unable to attend.

[mumin110]

And Africa Wala.

You pathetic Excuse for a human being.
You are a like Dhobi ka kutta.
Na ghar ka na ghat ka.

Yu dont know the strength of Mumineen and their beloved Aqa Maula Tus

You all hide behind this cloak of a website..
If yo uare so free. Why dont you show up in the masjid and say what you think.. You cant...

You are not Bohras!?! You are just bitter old women.... who crib and crib all day...

[Africawala]

Mumin 110,

Thank you for taking time to respond. Yes, I did count five man and four women and a child in the reception area. I saw that on another site and so I apologise.

For the rest of your message which was in Dawat ki Zaban, I do not understand it as my parents never took the time to teach me this language.

By the way, what is crib and crib???

[mumin110]

1) First of all, the five "MEN" you counted included an American Congressman, and two State Representatives for Massachusetts...Also, were the chief of police, the Town manager etc.
You wouldnt understand all this....
You were asking about dignitaries.. These were the dignitaries.

2) Your parents didnt teach you..hmm. So your upbringing is your parents fault? hm.. yes that does make sense. It is probably their fault that you turned out this way..

3)The interesting thing about this word crib is the large number of different meanings that attach to it. Crib came into Old English from a common West German noun, and originally meant “a receptacle for fodder used in cow sheds”.

But with respect to you and other uneducated Morons like you who understand little and talk a lot on this forum, Crib means to complain or grumble.
3)

[mumin110]

http://www.lowellsun.com/Stories/0,1413 ... 95,00.html
http://www.lowellsun.com/Stories/0,1413 ... 50,00.html
http://www.lowellsun.com/Stories/0,1413 ... 43,00.html
http://thnt.com/thnt/story/0,21282,1017246,00.html
http://www.thnt.com/thnt/story/0,21282,1016681,00.html
http://www.thnt.com/thnt/story/0,21282, ... traljersey

[mumin110]

And MH,
You can shove those letters .. you know where..
Keep on sending letters wherever you wish...

Despite your futile attempts, two congressman, 3 State senators met with our beloved leader( I dont like to use our leader's nameon this filthy website and I would encourage other Mumineen to also not use their leader's name here either, henceforth). Dont worry next stop is in Maryland and some more dignitaries will be added to the list.

Despite all yoru attempts at maligning our leader's name, you only added more hell time to your eternal existence.

[Africawala]

That's right, five "dignitaries"!!! (mostly low level officers) and more autographs. I bet more people were invited but they regretted the invites. Keep up the good work. I thought the Syedna was a King??? So why such low turnout to meet the King? No Muslim leaders were invited? Or did they regret too. How about people from Harvard which has the largest Islamic faculty? Would they not come to meet the True Leader of Islam???? BTW, What does he do with all these letters of regrets and autographs? Other religious leaders shun publicity but Kothar will be happy with a few low level white people as dignitaries!!!!

Yes, Sir, our parents did not teach us Lisan E Dawat because Allah S.W.T. forbids such language. Our parents also did not teach us the ethics and traditions of the Bohra Leader. Instead they taught us Islamic ethics and made us independent human beings whereby we earn our own hard earned money and not live off of people like some well-known parasites do!!! Something that you and your leader don't know about.

[mumin110]

E Gadhero,

Listen.. I know your education level.

If yo u think that US Congressmen are low level officials, then you have another thign coming.

Congress is the primary lawmaking body in the U.S. government. Congressmen introduce legislative proposals called bills or resolutions. So maybe according to you congressmen are low level...
try to get out of africa sometimes... the Jungle is getting to you.

Allah forbids lisab e Dawat...DO you even know what lisan e dawat means? LIsan means language.. Dawat is dawat(though you wont know what that means as you are not IN THE DAWAT). the majority of the language spoken by Dawoodi bohras is essentially a mix of Gujarati with urud and arabic words which developed over the past few hundred years.. Since it is a language of our dawat it is called lisan ud Dawat...

Urud is basically hindi and farsi but uses arabic script??

So according to you allah has forbidden urdu?? and other languiages.. what crap ar eyou talking..

U are basically an uninformed nastik, who was probably born a bohra but couldnt adhere to the islamic tents.. as I said earlier. you are a dhobi ka....na ghar ka na ghat ka..

[Anwar]

Br mumin 110 is getting angry, and the reaction is seen in his replies. One can understand, why no muslim skoler from Harvard,was present. If he spoke in Arabic, it probably wouldn't be the same Arabic moula spoke.Or may be the Islam they teach in Harward is not approved by the Dawaat? Mumin110, do you mean,lisan ud Dawat, is spoken by the majority of bohras?

[Africawala]

Dear Mumeen 110,

Don't you think the King of Islam benefitted better audience than Congressmen and Senators and Police Commissioner? This is what I meant. To me they are still small fries for the self-declared King of Islam.

You think you are very educated, but brother, like confuscious said, "What good is a load of books on the back of a donkey?" I am not calling you a donkey. But the position of some educated bohoras is the same as what Confuscious said - "they cannot think for themselves and make educational decisions" because their Master Kothar has shut their brains and mouths with threats. A donkey cannot throw the burden off of his back because of the fear of his master's Whip.

by the way, I did mean Lisan ud Dawat, that is the language of the Kothars. This is exactly what I meant. When they talk curses come out of their mouths with mixture of several languages. Listen to yourself and your posts. Don't you think the adjectives resemble?
May Allah S.W.T. bless you with Nek Taufeek. Ameen.

Your leader curses the Caliphs in your own Holy Mosques and then goes on the T.V. to apologise. If he were right, why apologise? He and his Jamat and his children curse people who oppose them, or try to physically harm them. Jesus and Rasool prayed for their enemies. So did other Prophets and Imams. Remember my friend, when you point a finger at someone the other four fingers point at yourself. So your curses are four times returned to yourself.

FYI, I left your religion a long time ago. I wish I had done that sooner. I do not have to kiss anybody's feet, nobody begs money from me or forces me to pay for this and that. I am here to support the progressives and hope one day they will see that Islam is not what is preached by the Kothars.

As regards Africa, isn't it the place where "most of the wool is sheared from the sheep by the Kothar?" And isn't it the place your leader loves to go hunting? He hunts animals and bohoras together.

[MOHD HUSSAIN]

Thanks brother Africawala, Those were good replies- We had some discussions with Mumin 110 before but as you can see he shows off his character & upbringing by his answers and curses which he did plenty in our previous posts! You will never get any intelligent answer from this "Zahil" so do not waste your time--

[Africawala]

Brother Mohd Hussain,

Thanks for your support. I agree no use responding to this man. He claims he is very educated but the kind of language he uses does not support his credentials.

I have met a lot of educated people and I find that education makes people humble but this man is outright arrogant. He thinks he is the only educated man on this site, Just the way Kothar thinks that they are the only ones who have the correct Islam. If they had the correct Islam they would be working and earning money and would stop harrassing people. Since when does Islam prohibit you from working as a religious leader?????

This 110 gave me a lecture on Senators and Congressmen. I have spent 33 years in this country and know what they are all about. But to him, they are big shots. This is what makes me feel he is as pathetic as his Kothar.

If he had read my post correctly, he would have seen that I had said "Lisan E Dawat" but he read it as Lisab. Now tell me this educated man cannot even read properly????

Salaams brothers.

[mumin110]

Originally posted by Anwar:
Br mumin 110 is getting angry, and the reaction is seen in his replies. One can understand, why no muslim skoler from Harvard,was present. If he spoke in Arabic, it probably wouldn't be the same Arabic moula spoke.Or may be the Islam they teach in Harward is not approved by the Dawaat? Mumin110, do you mean,lisan ud Dawat, is spoken by the majority of bohras?

AT least a true bohra makes an attempt to speak the language as it is the language of their beloved leader as well..

But you wouldnt undestand as you are too busy maligning your own comunity and everything in it.

[mumin110]

Originally posted by MOHD HUSSAIN:
Thanks brother Africawala, Those were good replies- We had some discussions with Mumin 110 before but as you can see he shows off his character & upbringing by his answers and curses which he did plenty in our previous posts! You will never get any intelligent answer from this "Zahil" so do not waste your time--

Yes Mohd Husain. I had shut your trap before a well... Now I am back...

I am not here to justify the actions of anyone in my community except my beloved leader. Let me be clear. If you insult my leader, then you're screwed.. Lets see how long this so-called "REFORM" movement website allows me to be on this forum before they ban me as they have done many times in the past... FREE? yeah right...

MH, as I said earlier, you are just an old woman with a lot of poison in you. but unfortnately your fangs are not as sharpa s you think..Dont worry your snake charmer is here.

Regarding my intelligence, I wont go into it.. You can see my credentials from previous posts of mine.. many of which couldnt be replied to... A REAL JAHIL like you is one who cant reply and ends up calling someone else JAHIL.

U probably ended up coming to the US as a refugee... WHAT DID you say?? "OH pls gvie me refugee status.. I was totured by kothar?? hahahahhahahah

[mumin110]

Originally posted by Africawala:
Brother Mohd Hussain,

Thanks for your support. I agree no use responding to this man. He claims he is very educated but the kind of language he uses does not support his credentials.

I have met a lot of educated people and I find that education makes people humble but this man is outright arrogant. He thinks he is the only educated man on this site, Just the way Kothar thinks that they are the only ones who have the correct Islam. If they had the correct Islam they would be working and earning money and would stop harrassing people. Since when does Islam prohibit you from working as a religious leader?????

This 110 gave me a lecture on Senators and Congressmen. I have spent 33 years in this country and know what they are all about. But to him, they are big shots. This is what makes me feel he is as pathetic as his Kothar.

If he had read my post correctly, he would have seen that I had said "Lisan E Dawat" but he read it as Lisab. Now tell me this educated man cannot even read properly????

Salaams brothers.

BOO HOO... SO I had a typo...SUE ME!!!

33 years in US?? The only US you have probably seen is on CNN....

I think MH and Africawala are two sides of one coin.. in terms of their intelligence and replies.. I think they both came to the US in same refugee boat..

[MOHD HUSSAIN]

You can spit any amount of venom Mr Mumin110 but that is not going to change our resolve! Each time you show up here you prove your "Khandani"& your education level- for your info I came here as a professional with a legitimate visa and not one of those who came with your aqa moula on visitor visa ,stayed here illegally and participated on one of those maass marriages nad got my visa converted! Heard the latest statistics- A lagrge number of young eligible bachelors come in USA each time with Syedna"s visit and they stay over illegally-then they try to marry some one with a green card!

[Anwar]

Mumin110,, so what if one comes as a refugee? when one reads your articles, you get the impression that in a refugee is a low and evil thing. I feel sorry for you and your like minded people, who seem to place people in different stacks, depending on their money, title of mulla/sheikh, MKD,NKD, money etc, and now this refugee thing.

[MOHD HUSSAIN]

Mumin 110 need to be reminded that some of the greatest people in history of USA were refugees- Ofcourse he has such limited knowledge of world affairs!Now go search the history!

[Africawala]

Dear M110,

Here is your quote and believe me that was not a typo. I have ignored your typos, but read what you wrote and also read my post prior to your comment below. I never mentioned Lisab. You did. You claim to be intelligent so live up to your credentials and Iqra:

"Allah forbids lisab e Dawat...DO you even know what lisan e dawat means? LIsan means language.. Dawat is dawat(though you wont know what that means as you are not IN THE DAWAT). the majority of the language spoken by Dawoodi bohras is essentially a mix of Gujarati with urud and arabic words which developed over the past few hundred years.. Since it is a language of our dawat it is called lisan ud Dawat..."

I think you are very frustrated with your limited intelligence and hence you are moving away from the real subject and making personal attacks to satisfy your false pride. It does not work with me, brother. No amount of your anger, foul language and frustration is going to push me over the edge or get the worst out of me.

As for the refugee boat, I have never seen one coming from Africa, have you?

First you think you are the only educated person on this earth and then you think that you are the only one who migrated to the U.S. and others have seen U.S. only on CNN. That speaks of your limited knowledge of this world. My sympathies are with you. May God give you courage to deal with your handicaps.

In future, I am not going to respond to your personal attacks. If you wish to carry on an intelligent debate, stick to the subject. Personal attacks speak very poorly of you, your beloved parents, if you ever had any, and of course your Dai.

Salaams and May God give you Peace in your life because you sound like a vey unhappy and pathetic Soul.

[MOHD HUSSAIN]

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Here is that just came in my E-mail--Each family in Washington ,DC area was asked to contribute $5ooo/ towards Ikram Fund- to defray Syedna's expenses to USA trip! Guys- THink about this how much money has been collected by the money hungry Kothar so far? Ziafat fee was close to $100,000/ & for that bogus title of sheikh was $52,000/- It is about time to report these criminals to FBI & IRS as these money is going to be smuggled in diffrent forms or get laundered in swiss accounts!

[MOHD HUSSAIN]

excellent response to Mumin 110 ,Br Africawala- That is the way to do it- I applaude your patience & intelligence while deploring the lack of it in Mumin 110!