Credit for Saifee Hospital

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S. Insaf
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Credit for Saifee Hospital

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Unread post by S. Insaf » Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:26 pm

Today Sayedna Burhanuddin Saheb is taking undue credit for building a grand Hospital in Bombay. Actual credit for this Hospital today goes to two grandsons of Sir Adamji Peerbhoy namely, Advocate Abid Hatim Merchant and Mansoor Jaffer bhoy Jani. Let us understand this.
Similar to the land of Sir Adamji Peerbhoy Sanatorium Trust on which Saifee Hospital has been built now, Community's another Abdul Kader E Ebrahim Trust and E.A. Currim Trust's land near Byculla in Bombay known as 'Dawood Baugh' was 1130 square worth more than Rs. 300 Crores.
As in case of Sir Adamji Peerbhoy Sanatorium Trust the original trustees of Dawood Baugh were compelled to transfer the entire property in the name of Sayedna Taher Saifuddin.
In 1963 two years before his death Sayedna Taher Saifuddin made an announcement to built a 22 story "Saifee Jubilee Technical Institution" to be constructed at the cost of Rs. 20 Crores. It was a biggest event in the Bohra Community. The photographs of Sayedna with the President of India and other political dignitories were widely publicised. New York times carried a full page paid advertisement. But for years nothing happened and ultimately in 1984 the entire property was sold to one Amir Builders and money pocketed by the Saifee Foundation Trust.
How could the Sayedna's administration publicly cheat a man of the strature of the President of India, the community and the public at large and get away with it?
It was because then the Dawoodi Bohra Reform Movement was not strong enough. There was non like Abid Merchant or Mansoor Jani to pull the Sayedna's trustees in the law courts and compel them to built the technical institution as it is done in the case of Saifee Hospital.
Strangely Mr. Ismail Kanga the son of the famous reformist, late Khan Bahadur Mohammed Ali Kanga, was pushed in June, 1965 as a trustee of Sir Adamji Peerbhoy Sanatorium Trust with "a proposal to construct a Residencial-cum-Hospital Building" on G.S. no. 36 & 37 Maharishi Kurve Road (Charni Road) i.e. on Sir Adamji Peerbhoy Sanatorium Trust land. This was quitely done when Sayedna Tahir Saifuddin had died and entire community was kept busy in mourning and breast-beating.
The trustees by manauvoring the officials in Bombay Municipal Corporation got the plans of "Residencial-cum-Hospital" passed. It will be a shock to the Dawoodi Bohras in general and Muslims in perticular that in this plan a Bank was shown in place of the existing mosque and a ladies' lavatory in place of Sir Adamji's existing Darghah.
In order to demolish the existing structures of Sanatorium buildings, which were registered under Charity Commissioner, court's permission was required. So when the trustees went to the court for permission Sir Adamji's grand son, Abid Merchant came to know about the devilish scheme and halted the efforts of userpers.
Advocate Abid Merchant and Mansoor Jani fought the case in City Civil Court and High Court in Bombay and in Supreme Court at Delhi bearing themselves the entire high cost of the cases. They had the courage and dedication to challenge mighty priesthood. They were alone in front of lawyers and solicitors army of Sayedna. They were cursed, humiliated and discouraged. But they stood firms. All the files brought from B.M.C., Judiciary, Charity Commissioner etc. were stolen from the court room. Sayedna's trustees tried to use Sir Adamji's private plot, backside cemetary land, Sanatorium as Nursing Home etc. but Abid Merchant exposed them in the court and never allowed them to succeed. They were also sucessful in insisting free beds in Saifee Hospital for the Dawoodi Bohras and even for reformist Bohras. They not only fought this case upto the Supreme Court but Mansoor Jani filed a case against the trustees with Charity commissioner for unregistered Saifee Hospital Trust and for not submitting the audited accounts for 13 years, criminal case with Bombay police for illegally transfering the trust money of Sanatorium Trust in the personal accounts of Ali Asghar Kalimuddin and Mudreka Zakiuddin. They caught the trustees on various fronts so much that the Senior Council of Dawat-Hadiya, Mudreka T. Zakiuddin came bagging to them for out of court settlement which they refused. Inspite of all odds they saw to it that Sir Adamji Peerbhoy's name and memory remains and the property is utilised for the benefit of the Humanity.

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Re: Credit for Saifee Hospital

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Unread post by babu » Sat Jul 16, 2005 12:56 pm

OK OK ....
Suno Suno Suno :D :D
The Credit for the Making of SAIFEE HOSPITALS goes to MAZUN SAHEB of Self declared Progressives MR. SAIFUDDIN INSAAF .

Ab theek hai ... Thand pe gayee ?
Read the post from this page by me ...
http://www.dawoodi-bohras.com/cgibin/UB ... 001331;p=3

Beizzatee kharaab karaane ka zyada hee shok hai na.

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Re: Credit for Saifee Hospital

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Unread post by tahir » Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:31 pm

Babu,
we all appreciate the great effort you have put in to learn Punjabi.

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Unread post by moomin052 » Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:43 am

this is really very funny,first you tried all you could to stop this hospital from being built and now you say that the credit should go to you after our moula(tus) has built it,i did not know that jokers could also post on this board

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Unread post by xnoori » Tue Jul 19, 2005 4:27 am

Why don’t people read what is written before commenting on it...?

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Unread post by moomin052 » Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:31 am

like i said all insaaf has written is simply not the truth it is impossible to believe that a bank was in the plans,or his other claims let him show the proof

S. Insaf
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Unread post by S. Insaf » Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:01 pm

Saifee Hospital's trustees which are close relatives of Sayedna Saheb and are common trustees of both Saifee Hospital trust and Sir Adamji Peerbhoy Sanatorium trust had submitted more than 60 different plans in the Supreme Court. Even the plans (some 8 in numbers) of Commercial Complex and the sanction letter of Bombay Municipal Corporation of June 1965 are difficult to reproduce here. I can scan them and sent to Admistration to put on this board or the best way is to please write to me on my address:
S. Insaf
Aasara, A3/004 Goverdhan Nagar,
Mulund (W), Mumbai-400 080
and I will send the copies to any one who wants to varify the authenticity of my statement.

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Unread post by JC » Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:52 pm

Babu, Mumin and alike

Whatever Burhan and his henchmen say are LIES. They are crooks and cheats.

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Unread post by babu » Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:35 pm

Originally posted by S. Insaf:
Saifee Hospital's trustees which are close relatives of Sayedna Saheb and ...................................... I will send the copies to any one who wants to varify the authenticity of my statement.
This Guy is glued with this issue .

"tere tasavvur se koi din nahi hai khaali
aisi nahi raat jab tu khawaab mein nahi"

This Guy has some psychic problem, hopefully at Saifee Hospitals he will get the Correct treatment .

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Re: Credit for Saifee Hospital

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Unread post by S. Insaf » Fri Jul 22, 2005 6:02 pm

Dear Babu,
I am in Bombay. The Saifee Hospital was inaugurated on 4th June 05 and today till 21st July its door are locked. It is still not opened for public. Also there is no board anywhere mentioning that it is Saifee Hospital. Because if write Saifee Hospital according to Supreme Court order they have to write Sir Adamji Peerbhoy Sanatorium on sanatorium side.
There is no mention of Sir Adamji Peerbhoy's name either in their speeches or litarature whose sanatorium they have demolished and whose most valuable land on the sea-shore they have usurped for commercial purpose. Ungrateful lot. Is'nt it?

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Unread post by babu » Sat Jul 23, 2005 8:06 am

On your special request they will open a room for you I hope, after all you are * Ma-jun saab

*( Read as arabic Word MA'AJOUN )

Maajoun = kind of gum or paste / the word can be used for sticky peoples / JO KI ISSUE KO PAKAD KAR LATAK JAATE HAIN :roll:

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Unread post by SBM » Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:12 pm

Dear Babu
Why don't you answer the question S Insaf asked.
How come the hospital doors are not open yet and why the name Saifee Hospital is not be displayed.
DONOT DO BAKWAAS like typical Aamil Sahebs and hide behind Zaahir and Batin things

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Unread post by babu » Sun Jul 24, 2005 7:45 am

I am very far from there so I cant tell you the reason why the doors not opened yet .
May be The Painter on vacation , so the signboard is not ready ,

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Unread post by SBM » Sun Jul 24, 2005 7:08 pm

Babu
If the painter is on vacaton, why don't you go and do it since this will be a worthwhile KHIDAMT and SAIFEE name will be displayed.
Next time before doing BAKWAS, find the facts and post it. Seems like you have not receieved the FARMAN to shut your mouth

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Unread post by babu » Mon Jul 25, 2005 3:39 pm

eeeeeeeekkk

Jali kya ????

:D :D :D :D

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Re: Credit for Saifee Hospital

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Unread post by guest786 » Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:22 am

babu, i guess u r not at all aware of whats going on. anyways i wud recommend u that if u beleive that what S. Insaaf says is not digestable then ask him for the facts. then i guess u can argue. Also why is it that sir adamjee phirbhoys name is never mentioned in any of the preachings or speaches abt saifee hospital. didnt he do a great thing for the community?? well babu open ur eyes and see whats going on around u. i know u r in blind fate and there is nothing wrong in that. but u wud eventually come to know whats the truth and u know when..... so i wud just suggest u that stop barking and look for the facts.

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Unread post by Z » Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:20 pm

FYI Adamjee Peerbhoy's contributions were talked about in Aqa Maula's recent waaz.

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Unread post by mumin_mukhlish » Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:14 pm

Dear Z,
These progressives don't come to waaz. so they r not aware of the fact. but anyway it doesn't matter whether they come or not bcz woh suna hai na ki "kutte ki poonch tedhi ki tedhi hi rehti hai woh kabhi sidhi naheen hoti" :D

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Unread post by tahir » Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:06 am

he he....babu has got a new id - mumin mukhlish :D
Arre babu bhai!!.....ye muh chupane ki aur bhase badalne ki kothari aadate yaha kaam nahi aayegi...jitni baar aoge utni baar tumhari pant gilli ho jayegi :p

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Unread post by mumin_mukhlish » Fri Jul 29, 2005 6:56 pm

Tahir,
I dont know who is Babu, but of cuz for ppl like u, we are the same under same guidance of our belowed moula(tus).
btw, for me , u r the perfect candidate for progressive dai. why dont u apply for this post? u can take blessings from ur azgar imam :D

and haan, logo ki pant gili karte karte tumhare haath bahut gande ho gaye hai. jara dhoke aao apne azgar imam ke phoonk ke pani se (sorry, yeh pani se to najane aur kya kya ganda ho jaega :D )

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Unread post by tahir » Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:38 pm

Jalee Kya... :D

mumin_mukhlish
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Unread post by mumin_mukhlish » Sat Jul 30, 2005 12:56 pm

Hahahaha... Tahir, u look like very funny character... Khud jal rahe ho aur dusro ko pooch rahe ho.

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Unread post by tahir » Sat Jul 30, 2005 1:59 pm

abhi jalee kya... :D

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Unread post by mumin_mukhlish » Sat Jul 30, 2005 3:14 pm

Tahir,
Woh suna hai na ki "Dhobi ka kutta na ghar ka na ghat ka" :D ... Bohra ho ke bhi bechara bohra naa ho saka :p

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Unread post by tahir » Sat Jul 30, 2005 3:31 pm

oh!!...ab to dhoo dhoo kar ke jal rahi hai... :D

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Unread post by S. Insaf » Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:26 am

Dear Z,
I have just come back to Bombay and read your feed back. Thanks for the information that Sayedna Saheb had praised the contributions of Sir Adamji Peerbhoy in his vaiz. I request you to write the place and date of this vaiz so that I can publish it in Bohra Chronicle more authentically. I also request you and community members to stop sending Lanat on Sir Adamji.
Is it possible for you see that these Noorani Kalemat of Sayedna Saheb in which Sir Adamji's Contributions were highlighted are published in Bade-Munir and Nasime-Sahar?
Don't you think a public addmision of this by Sayedna Saheb at the time of inauguration and putting Sir Adamji's name on the Sanatorium portion as per the Superem Court's order would have been even better?

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Unread post by spot » Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:10 pm

s insaf
the dai said this on ashara waaz. it should also be noted that lanat is said on those that opposed the dais, which were the sons of sir adamji..not sir adamji himself.

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Unread post by WYP » Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:36 pm

Originally posted by S. Insaf:
Dear Z,
I have just come back to Bombay and read your feed back. Thanks for the information that Sayedna Saheb had praised the contributions of Sir Adamji Peerbhoy in his vaiz. I request you to write the place and date of this vaiz so that I can publish it in Bohra Chronicle more authentically. I also request you and community members to stop sending Lanat on Sir Adamji.
Is it possible for you see that these Noorani Kalemat of Sayedna Saheb in which Sir Adamji's Contributions were highlighted are published in Bade-Munir and Nasime-Sahar?
Don't you think a public addmision of this by Sayedna Saheb at the time of inauguration and putting Sir Adamji's name on the Sanatorium portion as per the Superem Court's order would have been even better?
If you had cared to listen to Maula's waaz mubarak on 20th R. Akhar this year in Bombay on the occasion of his Milad, you would know that Maula spent about 25-30 minutes praising the khidmat of Adamji Pirbhai. FYI, this waaz was broadcast LIVE at all centers in the world. Go get the text yourself.

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Unread post by mumu » Thu Aug 04, 2005 4:49 am

S.Insaf : I also request you and community members to stop sending Lanat on Sir Adamji.

I want to let you know that good peolpes are always praised and lanats are for u all progressives.

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Unread post by tahir » Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:14 am

babu bhaiyya...yet another id!!.. :D ...itni jalee kya? (mera "matbal" hai phati kya.. ;) )