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Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:35 am
by S. Insaf
I am answering very truthfully that I dont know the face of KHuda so whenever I see my Moula I believe that this is the face of Khuda. I know you will not agree with my answer but I wrote what I feel
It was late Sayedna Taher Saifuddin Saheb who for first time in the Dawoodi Bohra history claimed that he is "Ehahul-Ard" (God on earth). Then he died and the face of Khuda was buried in Qasre-Husaini Jamatkhana. His grave is still there. Where as every thing else in the universe is mortal but Khud is immortal.
Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:04 am
by porus
msdubai wrote:
I am answering very truthfully that I dont know the face of KHuda so whenever I see my Moula I believe that this is the face of Khuda.
This person, msdubai, is a mushrik and, according to Quran, is destined for jahannum.
He is a disgrace to Islam and to the teachings of our Imams and Du'aat.
Even the Dai will be ashamed of him.
Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:08 am
by guy_sam2005
msdubai wrote:omabharti wrote:
Just remember Yazid had an army of Million and Imam Husain only had 72 Shudas and you abdes are doing PURJOSH MAATAM for those 72 Shudas and his leader Imam Husain and not for the leader of Million followers. Figure that out..........
Dear Ombaharti
One thing I really want to appreciate whole heartedly is that you are really a very intelligent person as I really liked your quote. Yes I agree that Iman Hussain had only 72 Shodas & Yazid had a million.But dear Iman Hussain became famous after this revoultion bacause he sacrificed his & his shodas life for that. So now whats up what are you going to sacrifice for your progressive thinking to be accepted.
u got the goose by the neck...how bout asgar leading now with mashaal in hands of insaaf.............
Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:11 am
by guy_sam2005
porus wrote:msdubai wrote:
I am answering very truthfully that I dont know the face of KHuda so whenever I see my Moula I believe that this is the face of Khuda.
This person, msdubai, is a mushrik and, according to Quran, is destined for jahannum.
He is a disgrace to Islam and to the teachings of our Imams and Du'aat.
Even the Dai will be ashamed of him.
and wat r u...gatekeeper of jannat???????
Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:23 am
by 'sauga dude
msdubai wrote:I dont know the face of KHuda so whenever I see my Moula I believe that this is the face of Khuda. I know you will not agree with my answer but I wrote what I feel
Ms. Dubai,
You are right! I do not agree with your answer and neither would 99.9999% of MUSLIMS!
If you think moula = Allah, was moula the one who revealed the Holy Quran to Rasulallah?
You are so far off the path that I will not even bother saying anything else to you. I pray that Allah has mercy on you.
Assalam aleykum Brother Omega,
I think we will agree to disagree on the point of the circular from kothar telling bohras not to travel for umrah.
You being one of the more sensible and decent "abdes" on this forum, I am interested to know what is your view on what Ms. Dubai has said about moulana being the face of khuda?
Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:09 am
by master.b00t
dear ms.dubai i felt your feelings about moula and respect your feelings but dear sister feelings is not Truth !! if any religion leader who loved by you much he not became true and sinsere man this is the difference bitween truth and your feelings that came from your childhood pls try to understand with mind that burhani daur is not islam , if you want to stay this beautiful burhani daur dream you will not get any truth, and truth is real religion real islaam.
Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:20 am
by porus
master.b00t sahib,
meri aapse ek guzaarish hai ke aap aapki contribution urdu zabaan mein hi jaari rakhiye. aapki bari maherbani hogi. yeh Is liye ke mein aapki angrezi samajh nahi paa raha hu.n. shukriya.
Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:45 am
by fisherman
trying to find face of GOD or hands of GODS in his makhlukaat no matter who he is DAI,Imam,or even prophet is absulately against the basic principle of ISLAM which is tauhid.
from years and years i am advicing all Momeenin i meet to read Quraan with translation and find the truth of tawhid and imamat.
jhalat can lead to hell.
Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:48 am
by Humsafar
porus wrote:master.b00t sahib,
meri aapse ek guzaarish hai ke aap aapki contribution urdu zabaan mein hi jaari rakhiye. aapki bari maherbani hogi. yeh Is liye ke mein aapki angrezi samajh nahi paa raha hu.n. shukriya.
master.boot, ek aur baat! Meherbaani kar ke aap lissaane-khichdi mey baat na kare. Aap jab angrezi mey hindi aur gujarati aur phir urdu milaate hai to aisa lagta hai jaise koi hamaare sar par hathode maar raha ho. Meherbaani kar ke ye zulm hum par na kare. Ek baar sirf ek zabaan hi bole. Hame khushi hai ke aap hum-khayaal hai, bus ab thoda hum-zabaan ho jaaye.n. shukriya.
Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:05 pm
by master.b00t
Ab se me hindi me hi baat kiya karonnga, aap logo ki pareshani se mujhe bahot khed he, dukh he. Kshama chata hu.
Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:20 pm
by Humsafar
Dhanyavaad.
Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:28 pm
by BURHANUDDIN ALI
THE DAI WITH CRORES AND CROCRES OF MONEY WAS RESTRICTED TO GO TO BIGGEST AND MOST IMPORTANT HOUSE OF ALLAH.THIS IS SURELY A WRATH OF ALLAH!!!!!!
SURELY HE IS MISLEADING THE EMOTINAL AND FOOLISH BOHRAS!!!
Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 3:51 am
by guy_sam2005
porus wrote:master.b00t sahib,
meri aapse ek guzaarish hai ke aap aapki contribution urdu zabaan mein hi jaari rakhiye. aapki bari maherbani hogi. yeh Is liye ke mein aapki angrezi samajh nahi paa raha hu.n. shukriya.
bechara apne aap ko samajh nahi paa raha hai...woh to bechara bhatak raha tha..ke ye galat website haath lag gayi..log yaha apni apni kaalpanik kahaniya likh rahe the..ye bhi shaamil ho gaya.....
Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 3:52 am
by guy_sam2005
BURHANUDDIN ALI wrote:THE DAI WITH CRORES AND CROCRES OF MONEY WAS RESTRICTED TO GO TO BIGGEST AND MOST IMPORTANT HOUSE OF ALLAH.THIS IS SURELY A WRATH OF ALLAH!!!!!!
SURELY HE IS MISLEADING THE EMOTINAL AND FOOLISH BOHRAS!!!
restricted?where ?
Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:58 am
by Smart
guy_sam2005 wrote:porus wrote:master.b00t sahib,
meri aapse ek guzaarish hai ke aap aapki contribution urdu zabaan mein hi jaari rakhiye. aapki bari maherbani hogi. yeh Is liye ke mein aapki angrezi samajh nahi paa raha hu.n. shukriya.
bechara apne aap ko samajh nahi paa raha hai...woh to bechara bhatak raha tha..ke ye galat website haath lag gayi..log yaha apni apni kaalpanik kahaniya likh rahe the..ye bhi shaamil ho gaya.....
IMHO, you don't have the right to criticise master.b00t. You started off on this forum with even worse quality of writing. It is you who is bhatka huwa and been taken for a ride of your life, by your lord and master. It is now only, that you have starting writing legibly, however, there is still a long way to go.
Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:04 am
by guy_sam2005
good goin smartie,
u have 2 students now me n boot,so me being senior get to rag him in your classes....................
Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:10 am
by master.b00t
guy_sam2005 baaten banane me tum bade maahir ho kyonki isse ye questions se bacha ja sake, mujhe bahot zyada samajne ki koshish na karo to hi achha rahega. muje chhodo is topic ke ek ek question ke jawaab dena shuru kardo.
Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:23 am
by Smart
guy_sam2005 wrote:good goin smartie,
u have 2 students now me n boot,so me being senior get to rag him in your classes....................
Sorry to disappoint you, I don't rag people. I am not associated with the Kothar.
Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:48 am
by like_minded
Smart wrote:guy_sam2005 wrote:good goin smartie,
u have 2 students now me n boot,so me being senior get to rag him in your classes....................
Sorry to disappoint you, I don't rag people. I am not associated with the Kothar.
Well said bro smart!!
Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:47 am
by guy_sam2005
Smart wrote:guy_sam2005 wrote:good goin smartie,
u have 2 students now me n boot,so me being senior get to rag him in your classes....................
Sorry to disappoint you, I don't rag people. I am not associated with the Kothar.
oh ya right...you prople push elderly people out of planes,,,,and beg for accounts which is not your money,and ya you guys are the appointed gatekeepers of heaven..........and saviours or Quran..the enlighted ones wo will save this world from armageddon...
Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:56 am
by Smart
guy_sam2005 wrote:Smart wrote:
Sorry to disappoint you, I don't rag people. I am not associated with the Kothar.
oh ya right...you prople push elderly people out of planes,,,,and beg for accounts which is not your money,and ya you guys are the appointed gatekeepers of heaven..........and saviours or Quran..the enlighted ones wo will save this world from armageddon...
Last time I read and heard about it, and most intelligent people on this forum know is that, all these things about hitting old people (especially their own teachers), pushing and spitting on them and appointing themselves as gatekeepers of heaven and being naatiq quran etc. was the monopoly of your masters. How come you are attributing them to the reformists?
No reformist has ever said "Maru daaman na chhodjo, mein tamne jannat ma lai jais"
Buddy, aren't you completely confused?
Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 7:31 am
by guy_sam2005
master.b00t wrote:dear ms.dubai i felt your feelings about moula and respect your feelings but dear sister feelings is not Truth !! if any religion leader who loved by you much he not became true and sinsere man this is the difference bitween truth and your feelings that came from your childhood pls try to understand with mind that burhani daur is not islam , if you want to stay this beautiful burhani daur dream you will not get any truth, and truth is real religion real islaam.
boot saab aapko islaam bachana ho ya jo bhi karna ho meherbaani karke hindi me kijiye..varna aapki baatein sunke koi islaam me bachega hi nahi..........
Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 8:21 am
by ANA BOHRI
boot saab aapko islaam bachana ho ya jo bhi karna ho meherbaani karke hindi me kijiye..varna aapki baatein sunke koi islaam me bachega hi nahi..........
Typical abde style.What a lousy way to divert the topic.
Let me inform every one here that I am not new to this site. Earlier my login name was BB, but unfortunately I lost my password hence I have changed my username to Ana Bohri. My contribution to this site is not much so far as writing comment is concerned but I am a daily logger of this site and when ever I get a chance I refer this site to as many bohris as I can.
This site rocks.....
Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:21 am
by guy_sam2005
ana,
ya thats right...this site is full of nothing but rocks................
Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:43 am
by master.b00t
ye reformist mujhe master ya master.b00t se bulate he aur ye short mind abdes mujhe boot se sambodhan karte he, bhai abdes log ..mujhe master kehne se me master nahin ho jaaunga ye tumhare short-mind ,short -dil aur kaayarta ki nishani he jee bahooooooot chota he abdes ka, user name me master word pehle aata he to obiviously koi bhi master ya master.b00t kahega .ABDES KE JEE BAHOT CHHOTE.
Abdes kisiko master nahin kehte username me bhi nahin !!
Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:19 pm
by msdubai
guy_sam2005 wrote:ana,
ya thats right...this site is full of nothing but rocks................
Dear Bro Sam,
Ya you are 100% correct. This site is just full of rocks & creative questions. When a abde expresses there feelings all of them together come to reject it at the first instnace. i think the most practical people on earth are on this site only. They all tell everything from Quran so in there it is said that in your parents you see the face of God. So they cannot understand that for us our moula is our parents so we can clearly see the face of Khuda in him. Also when the question came for giving shadat all of them are not answering. Ya I can understand all are so busy reciting quran & preaching its teachings to us that where is the time left to answer our questions. Always asking to answer there own questions. How much time this Mr Zulfiqar is spending on creating these questions is beyond my thoughts.
Master boot thanks for understanding my feelings but dude sorry to see you cannot understand your own feelings.
Dear Porus I think guy sam is correct when he is saying you the pehredar of jannat. Who are you to call anyone a mushrik.
Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:34 pm
by porus
msdubai wrote:They all tell everything from Quran so in there it is said that in your parents you see the face of God. So they cannot understand that for us our moula is our parents so we can clearly see the face of Khuda in him.
When we quote from the Quran, we always give surat and ayat. You cannot do this, because like all abdes and many shaikhs I have met, your knowledge of Quran is zero, zilch, nil, nada. And if you think Quran says you can see the face of God in your parents, not only are you a mushrik, but also you are insulting the Quran by falsifying it. If you do sajda to your moula, you are a mushrik. If you kiss the feet of your moula, you are a mushrik.
msdubai wrote:Dear Porus.. Who are you to call anyone a mushrik.
It is the Quran that call you mushrik. That is why I wrote 'according to Quran' in my first post about you. You would not understand. since you do not know the Quran.
Remember that, mushrik.
Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 12:59 am
by master.b00t
msdubai wrote:
Master boot thanks for understanding my feelings but dude sorry to see you cannot understand your own feelings.
guy_sam2005 and ms.dubai, human ne is link par yaha aane wali 4 types likhi he jo vakey kabile taarif he, human is most broadminded person here. this is the link of 4 types
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http://dawoodi-bohras.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5037#p65287
meri type yaha niche likhi he wo padh lo ,me kinme se hu, ye wali meri type he aur mera raasta tay he ,
me to meri situation and feelings ko samajta hu lekin tum log nahi samaj rahe ho is liye.....
Human wrote:3. Fed up dawoodi bohras (maybe ex-abdes) - Don't really care about reform, but will support if needed. These are just fed up of dai, kothaar and the corrupt administration and just vent their fury over wasting so many years behind lies given from dai and wasting so much money and time.
human thanks very lot and , guy_sam2005 and ms.dubai [maula maula sada rehjo baaki.. ] ko jawaab mil gaya hoga.
Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 6:58 am
by Human
^
Thank you master boot for your very flattening comments.
Re: Just a few simple questions to abde syedna fanatics...
Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:41 am
by guy_sam2005
flattening..its more like nautanki...if dont like leave dude,many religions wil welcome u with open arms,,,,,,,,,and till not calling u master is concerned ..i have learnt those things from ur bosses here.................the people who walk on real path of quran(distorted to support their claims)