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Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 10:34 am
by rational_guy
rational_guy wrote:Questions for Shz Mufaddal Saifuddin, Qaid Johar, Aliasger Kalimuddin or their representatives James, True_bohra, max etc

1. For the last three years why is there no importance to secular education. Ikhwan us safa written by the Imam AS merges rationality/science and our Ismaili tayyebi theology and shows the right path towards Tawheed.

2. Why are you all suppressing women's education. There is a saying "educate a women you educate the family".

3. Why are you all renovating badri mahal offices two to three times in the last 8 years.

4. Why are you all constructing new jamea's when Dawat administration does not require so many religious "scholars"
Reposting the above questions. Really hoping to get an answer

Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 2:19 pm
by SBM
Now the Belen and Tawaa are being blessed by SMS. So what is next: Titles to Belen and Tawwa blessed by SMS May be they can auction these blessed Belens and Tawwas on E bay, Just a new idea for some entrepreneurial Abdes

http://zeninfosys.net/zen/sites/default ... k=tWCKlCr1

Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:24 pm
by ghulam muhammed
SBM wrote:Now the Belen and Tawaa are being blessed by SMS. So what is next: Titles to Belen and Tawwa blessed by SMS May be they can auction these blessed Belens and Tawwas on E bay, Just a new idea for some entrepreneurial Abdes http://zeninfosys.net/zen/sites/default ... k=tWCKlCr1
Wait for some more time and there will be scores of others things that will blessed by MS............... It will be Aata, the chakki where aata is grinded, then the chakkiwala himself, I hope the chakkiwala doesn't have to pay fakhir najwa to get blessed !

Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 5:47 pm
by ghulam muhammed
Muffy is hopping from one city to another like theres no tomorrow........... On 30th Rajab he was in Indore, on 1st Shaban he was in Ujjain, on 2nd Shaban he was in Rajod, on 4th Shaban he was in Burhanpur, on 6th Shaban he was in Khandwa, yesterday he was in Mumbai and today he is in Zambia !! The multiple Nikahs, Mafsusiyats, hadiyats, Ziafats etc. would be hard to count, not to forget the crores that come alongwith it.

Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 9:03 pm
by Sufi monk
ghulam muhammed wrote:Muffy is hopping from one city to another like theres no tomorrow........... On 30th Rajab he was in Indore, on 1st Shaban he was in Ujjain, on 2nd Shaban he was in Rajod, on 4th Shaban he was in Burhanpur, on 6th Shaban he was in Khandwa, yesterday he was in Mumbai and today he is in Zambia !! The multiple Nikahs, Mafsusiyats, hadiyats, Ziafats etc. would be hard to count, not to forget the crores that come alongwith it.
looks like he is in some kind of hurry and wants to make more and more in short span of time........may be he already knows his days are counted.

Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 5:58 am
by AgnosticIndian
I have a feeling these guys will make Qasre Ali Chhap Velan,chokli and tawa that the will sell as Moula ni barakati. Ehma roti swaad better aavse ane barkat atli ke bimari si shifa thaase

Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 6:32 am
by Bohra spring
Why Zambia ? What is of religious significance in Zambia ?

Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 3:15 pm
by jungle999
Why Zambia go for hunting animal s they have run out of animals in tanzania

Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 3:58 pm
by Mazakyo
Bohra spring wrote:Why Zambia ? What is of religious significance in Zambia ?
Oh Bhai, sasta air ticket mil raha tha, tau Zambia ka bhi chakkar laga latey hain.

No Fear of GOD

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 12:47 am
by Sufi monk
Bismillah...

no matter who is speaking truth between SKQ and muffy, one thing is for sure that he is has no fear of GOD, SKQ sahab swore on Quraan and muffy claimed in masjid without fearing ALLAH wrath, so it is really astonishing that people of such gesture dont have taqwaa and they are lying in public.

I believe both took ilm and remain in hazrat of SMB for more than 50 years, but one of them is still lying and has no fear of GOD.

and such a person can go to any extend to get what he wants.

Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:12 am
by Bohra spring
What next Guinea Bissau , Central African Republic ,
Cambodia and Honduras

Can you imagine the imam has to also fly in

Again what is the religious significance from an Islamic point for a Diai to visit Zambia where majority are Christian Africans

Why not Egypt , Saudi Arabia , Israel , Indonesia .

His job is to think walk religion not enjoy life can someone remind him if he has free time start writing a religious book

Who am I ? I am one of his tax payer and he is obligated by the role he stole from his uncle or conned his father SMB

Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:21 am
by Akhtiar Wahid
Bohra spring wrote:What next Guinea Bissau , Central African Republic ,
Cambodia and Honduras

Can you imagine the imam has to also fly in

Again what is the religious significance from an Islamic point for a Diai to visit Zambia where majority are Christian Africans

Why not Egypt , Saudi Arabia , Israel , Indonesia .

His job is to think walk religion not enjoy life can someone remind him if he has free time start writing a religious book

Who am I ? I am one of his tax payer and he is obligated by the role he stole from his uncle or conned his father SMB
" write books" :roll: hahaha......bohra spring bhai Muffadal Saab is 7th grade fail and most his life he has taken personal home education from crooks (SYN and bros and sons) who twisted his faith upside down regarding Mazoon-e-dawat. I bet he cannot even write a surah by heart from Quran, writing an islamic book is far off thing.

Re: No Fear of GOD

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:26 am
by Akhtiar Wahid
yeah he can travel to such an extent where in one day he is India, next day in Africa and third day in Pakistan!

Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:16 am
by Truthseeker
He has substantial real estate investments in Zambia. I heard it was a mini township project with 100 villas or so in the first phase. He is probably going there to oversee it personally.

Re: No Fear of GOD

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:28 am
by salaar
Akhtiar bhai taali donoo haatho se bajti hai

Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:18 am
by Akhtiar Wahid
what about the poor bohras living on the streets of Surat, Mumbai, Ahmedabad, Indore etc.
yeh Shafiq Bawa nahee Saudagaar hain!

Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:10 pm
by rational_guy
ٱنظُرۡ كَيۡفَ كَذَبُواْ عَلَىٰٓ أَنفُسِہِمۡ‌ۚ وَضَلَّ عَنۡہُم مَّا كَانُواْ يَفۡتَرُونَ 
(٢٤)

Surat Al Anam
Behold! How they lie against their own souls! But the (lie) which they invented will leave them in the lurch. (24)

Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:12 am
by rational_guy
Truthseeker wrote:He has substantial real estate investments in Zambia. I heard it was a mini township project with 100 villas or so in the first phase. He is probably going there to oversee it personally.
if there are no bohris in zambia, that means he is probably making a personal visit. Then is Shz MS using Dawat funds to fly BUSINESS CLASS

Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:43 am
by Sufi monk
rational_guy wrote:
Truthseeker wrote:He has substantial real estate investments in Zambia. I heard it was a mini township project with 100 villas or so in the first phase. He is probably going there to oversee it personally.
if there are no bohris in zambia, that means he is probably making a personal visit. Then is Shz MS using Dawat funds to fly BUSINESS CLASS
he has reason to be in Zambia

Muffy has purchased 1.2 million worth luxurious hunting camp in Zambia for his personal hobby, abdes are shouting su nirali shaan che....pics are circulating on whatsup.

I think abdes deserves this.

Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:50 am
by summer123
What's app msg

Sagla ne Mubarak aaje moula tus ye elephant no shikar kido zambiya aafrica mubarak mubarak

Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:52 am
by summer123
summer123 wrote:What's app msg

Sagla ne Mubarak aaje moula tus ye elephant no shikar kido zambiya aafrica mubarak mubarak

Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:20 am
by canadian
summer123 wrote:
summer123 wrote:What's app msg

Sagla ne Mubarak aaje moula tus ye elephant no shikar kido zambiya aafrica mubarak mubarak
How cruel these "ambassadors of peace" are!

Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:49 am
by Sufi monk
these bezubaan animals will curse this moron and I am sure their bud dua wont go empty.

Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:27 am
by Akhtiar Wahid
Just wait and watch how the family member of this elephant herd crushes down the Skull of this shafeeq bawa, ambasador of peace, fake moula.
SOMEDAY!

Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:30 am
by Akhtiar Wahid
SKQ saheb on other hand has never supported or displayed any kind of cruelty to animals. as per quran we cannot harm animals for pleasure.
it is defying glorious Allah and his creation.
SMB saheb (RA) and his sons have always been spotted with this cruel activity against nature. i am sure Sons of SMB (RA) are the culprits behind forcing SMB saheb (RA) do to such trips to fulfil their pleasure of animal hunting.

Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 3:49 pm
by Mazakyo
canadian wrote:
summer123 wrote:
How cruel these "ambassadors of peace" are!

The good thing in this shikar is that they did not use any weapons to kill the animal. They just told the elephant the wajebat rate for the coming year and the elephant dropped dead !!!

Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:08 pm
by abde53
Akhtiar Wahid wrote:SKQ saheb on other hand has never supported or displayed any kind of cruelty to animals. as per quran we cannot harm animals for pleasure.
it is defying glorious Allah and his creation.
SMB saheb (RA) and his sons have always been spotted with this cruel activity against nature. i am sure Sons of SMB (RA) are the culprits behind forcing SMB saheb (RA) do to such trips to fulfil their pleasure of animal hunting.
Akhtiar Bhai
Where was Mazoon saheb when SMB was doing the shikar. Bhai you talk very favour of SKQ but why he did not speak up during the time of Syedna Buhranuddin when these kind of activites were talking place,

Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 4:18 pm
by kimanumanu
abde53 wrote: Where was Mazoon saheb when SMB was doing the shikar. Bhai you talk very favour of SKQ but why he did not speak up during the time of Syedna Buhranuddin when these kind of activites were talking place,
Hmm ... I guess after what happened to him when he messed with the Hebatullahs ....

Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:00 pm
by rational_guy
About using Dawat funds for personal use, I want to mention this riwayat here.

Once Mola Ali AS was sitting with one of his Ashaab in the night discussing the various matters in dawat. Later as the conversation progressed, the ashaab was discussing Mola Ali AS personal matters. At this time Mola Ali AS interrupted the conversation, turned around and shut off the oil lamp. The room became dark. The Ashaab respectively asked why did he do that. Mola Ali AS replied that now we are talking about my personal matters, I cannot use resources from Dawat's treasury.


SHZ MS, QE and AK are you all following the principles set forth by Mola Ali AS. Representatives of these shz can reply, as always.

Re: Mufaddal Saifuddin (and related topics)

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 3:56 am
by tasneempati
SMS-After a hectic tour of so many Indian cities, now is the time to relax.
SKQ- Enjoying US tour.
Again both are different faces of same Coin.
summer123 wrote:
summer123 wrote:What's app msg

Sagla ne Mubarak aaje moula tus ye elephant no shikar kido zambiya aafrica mubarak mubarak