Abdes -any bohra websites which impart any knowledge?

[Smart]

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What about medicine? I am sure he is the repository of the most advanced knowledge in this field too. Why is he then, not able to straighten his bent neck?

With his advanced knowledge in all fields he should be able to predict the outcome of the experiments in the Large Hadron Collider at CERN in Europe.

If he is able prove that he has all that knowledge, then all the governments of the world will give him trillions of dollars for his knowledge and he will not need an extortionist kothar to squeeze small amounts of money from poor bohras, especially widows and sell titles for a tenth of a million dollars. All this extortion will then become redundant.

What is he waiting for? Or is this so called 'knowledge' only for gullible semi-literate abdes? Is this why his whole establishment reluctant to come out with the so called 'knowledge'? Are they afraid that scrutiny by others will expose the truth?

[Al Zulfiqar]

profastener,

with the tremendous knowledge that you have learnt from syedna, can you please answer the following questions:

1. whats the syedna's take on the fibonacci numbers?
2. as smart has asked, what is syedna's thoughts on the experiments being conducted in particle physics at the large hadron collider, does he think they will find the ultimate 'god particle'.?
3. has the saifee mahal underground top secret lab been able to achieve the perfect zero temperature?
4. are there any plans to cryogenically preserve the syedna for eternity?
5. does the syedna possess the secrets to alchemy, i.e. conversion of base metal to gold?
6. what is the syedna's take on the size of the universe and how fast does he think its growing in terms of mc2?
7. how many bulldogs does it take to keep a flock of 6 lakhs sheep submissive? esp. if those bulldogs are wearing pagri's and yards of white diaphanous organza?

[profastian]

profastener,

with the tremendous knowledge that you have learnt from syedna, can you please answer the following questions:

1. whats the syedna's take on the fibonacci numbers?
That the fibonacci numbers are 1,1,2,3,5...

2. as smart has asked, what is syedna's thoughts on the experiments being conducted in particle physics at the large hadron collider, does he think they will find the ultimate 'god particle'.?
The LHC is trying to find the Higg's Boson to complete the standard model. But the standard model is a failed theory any way. So no.

3. has the saifee mahal underground top secret lab been able to achieve the perfect zero temperature?
Why, do you want to cryogenically preserve yourself.

4. are there any plans to cryogenically preserve the syedna for eternity?
No, that doesnt need cryogenics. His soul is eternal anyway.

5. does the syedna possess the secrets to alchemy, i.e. conversion of base metal to gold?
Go read an intermediate level chemistry book.

6. what is the syedna's take on the size of the universe and how fast does he think its growing in terms of mc2?
Thats the first good question you have asked. But what do u mean by "in terms of mc2". Go read up some science books before asking science questions.
Btw i dont know what is the take on the size of the universe. Will have to ask around.

7. how many bulldogs does it take to keep a flock of 6 lakhs sheep submissive? esp. if those bulldogs are wearing pagri's and yards of white diaphanous organza?

Well we dont keep dogs in our homes. But u guyz certainly have a pig (Engineer) in your midst, to keep u guyz in check.

[profastian]

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What about medicine? I am sure he is the repository of the most advanced knowledge in this field too. Why is he then, not able to straighten his bent neck?
The reason is "Adal". The DAI can straighten his bent neck. But he wont because of "ADAL".

With his advanced knowledge in all fields he should be able to predict the outcome of the experiments in the Large Hadron Collider at CERN in Europe.
Why? ( Your nick is really an oxymoron, They should include it as an example in Oxford dictionary ) .

If he is able prove that he has all that knowledge, then all the governments of the world will give him trillions of dollars for his knowledge and he will not need an extortionist kothar to squeeze small amounts of money from poor bohras, especially widows and sell titles for a tenth of a million dollars. All this extortion will then become redundant.
He doesn't need the dollars. He already has them

What is he waiting for? Or is this so called 'knowledge' only for gullible semi-literate abdes? Is this why his whole establishment reluctant to come out with the so called 'knowledge'? Are they afraid that scrutiny by others will expose the truth?
Of course we are not afraid. But we don't want to share the knowledge. Can u make us ....

[anajmi]

profastian,

You probably missed my last post. Here it is again.

profastian,

I never said it proved anything.

and before you said

Well your ramblings prove nothing.

So when you say something, it doesn't have to prove anything, but when I say something you call it rambling because it proves nothing? Doesn't that mean what you said was just rambling as well, since it proved nothing? Which in turn means that your Syedna is simply rambling because what he says, proves nothing.

you start bashing the imam and punjatan.

Not sure where I was bashing the panjatan. Can you point out where I did that in my response to you? I consider the panjatan to be the greatest of muslims and not because a 5 appears in every multiple of 5 but because of the way they lived their lives and because of the way they laid down their lives.

So no further discussion with you. Thank You.

Well, I thought we would be discussing about physics, biology and zoology that the Syedna has taught you in his waez. If you have knowledge on your side, you shouldn't be running away from opportunities to display your knowledge and prove to us your Syedna's worth. Otherwise people will think that the Syedna's followers run when confronted with real knowledge. So what do you say? Should we discuss physics, biology and zoology as taught by the Syedna?

[Al Zulfiqar]

profastener,

we need syedna's thoughts and answers to our questions, not yours picked up from wikipedia. please collect all our questions, put them in an arzi and send it into the presence of hazrate aliyah.

the best way would be of course would be for him to elucidate on these queries of ours at his next public vaez. apparently thats where you picked up all your knowledge on particle physics, fibonacci nos. astronomy, chemistry etc.

if you can kindly let us know when his next scholarly vaez on these subjects is, we will gladly attend in large numbers. in fact, if i may suggest, i can arrange for him to speak on these subjects at the University of Toronto annual Science symposium, which is coming up in June. i can also try to bring dr. stephen hawking, and many other eminent scholars there to learn from syedna.

thanks for your cooperation.

[profastian]

profastener,

we need syedna's thoughts and answers to our questions, not yours picked up from wikipedia. please collect all our questions, put them in an arzi and send it into the presence of hazrate aliyah.

the best way would be of course would be for him to elucidate on these queries of ours at his next public vaez. apparently thats where you picked up all your knowledge on particle physics, fibonacci nos. astronomy, chemistry etc.

if you can kindly let us know when his next scholarly vaez on these subjects is, we will gladly attend in large numbers. in fact, if i may suggest, i can arrange for him to speak on these subjects at the University of Toronto annual Science symposium, which is coming up in June. i can also try to bring dr. stephen hawking, and many other eminent scholars there to learn from syedna.

thanks for your cooperation.

I can arrange no such meetings. I don't have any such connections. (Before you nit pick this point, let me say that it would need similar connections to arrange meetings with the Pope, Aga Khan or any other famous world leaders)

[Al Zulfiqar]

profsatener,

no one is asking you to arrange any meetings, apparently you are very small fry. then atleast send in the arzi and request him to answer our questions at his next vaez.

[profastian]

profsatener,

no one is asking you to arrange any meetings, apparently you are very small fry. then atleast send in the arzi and request him to answer our questions at his next vaez.

Mind your proverbs "small fry" lolz.

[Conscíous]

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So many proud Slaves of syedna on this forum and ONLY ONE could answer, why someone should become a slave of syedna ?

None of the other slaves want to give there many reasons

Fake Pride I guess , just like their narcissist master

[Smart]

@profastian,
What about answers to my questions? You have been active on this forum and this thread, but have refrained from answering my questions. Is it that you have no answers or is it that you can indulge in mudslinging only?

If a get a facile aside from you as an answer, then it will prove that you have no knowledge about science, let alone you being a mathematician with a finely honed sense of logic.

[profastian]

@profastian,
What about answers to my questions? You have been active on this forum and this thread, but have refrained from answering my questions. Is it that you have no answers or is it that you can indulge in mudslinging only?

If a get a facile aside from you as an answer, then it will prove that you have no knowledge about science, let alone you being a mathematician with a finely honed sense of logic.

I have answered your questions in one of the above posts.

[guy_sam2005]

profsatener,

no one is asking you to arrange any meetings, apparently you are very small fry. then atleast send in the arzi and request him to answer our questions at his next vaez.

do it yourself dude.even outsiders are allowed to send arzi....................

[guy_sam2005]

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So many proud Slaves of syedna on this forum and ONLY ONE could answer, why someone should become a slave of syedna ?

None of the other slaves want to give there many reasons

Fake Pride I guess , just like their narcissist master

yes cause u call us slaves.we dont consider ourselves...actually in syedna's hazrat only we feel like kings and nowhere else we do so...........and moreoevr getting our replies on this is your previelage not right.............

[Conscíous]

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So many proud Slaves of syedna on this forum and ONLY ONE could answer, why someone should become a slave of syedna ?
None of the other slaves want to give there many reasons
Fake Pride I guess , just like their narcissist master

yes cause u call us slaves.we dont consider ourselves

The meaning of Abde is = Slave right ?? I thought you people liked to be called slaves of syedna??
People from your community/cult keep writing at the end of post/comment, Abde syedna, right before their name

actually in syedna's hazrat only we feel like kings and nowhere else we do so

hehe,..I believe you.. We know most of you, are Delusional.. "Feel like a king & behave like a slave".. When you are in your syedna's hazrat, you are in mass hypnosis & have this pathetic, sick look on your face's ...Scary, to tell you the truth..

moreoevr getting our replies on this is your previelage not right.............

hmmmmm,,,..

like I have said before, no one in their right mind would convert this sick cult of syedna, because there are NO good reasons!!

[guy_sam2005]

ok since you talking about sick minds,
what does it bother you what at all we do,,,,are we in anyway indebted to you?
is dawoodi bohra a faith by will or force?
is anyone pressuring to follow the ways and preachings of syedna?
why at all does it bother u?i am not askin you to follow my religion nor calling you a fool for not following.i respect your choice,
can u reciprocate?

[profastian]

like I have said before, no one in their right mind would convert this sick cult of syedna, because there are NO good reasons!!

Then why the heck are you here?

[Conscíous]

what does it bother you what at all we do,,,,are we in anyway indebted to you?

It concerns me as a human-being..

is dawoodi bohra a faith by will or force?

No one is going to join this cult willingly. That's why, you guys are having problems, coming up with GOOD REASONS, why someone should become a slave of your syedna..

is dawoodi bohra a faith by will or force?

Forced in, when I was a infant..

is anyone pressuring to follow the ways and preachings of syedna?

Yes, "almost" everyone I know, who are in the clutches of this evil cult..

why at all does it bother u?

it affects me and people I care about...

i am not askin you to follow my religion nor calling you a fool for not following.i respect your choice,
can u reciprocate?

You might be a nice guy, but there is a lot of things your/our community is doing/done in the name of God, which is pure evil.. & that is a little hard for me to respect..

[Conscíous]

like I have said before, no one in their right mind would convert this sick cult of syedna, because there are NO good reasons!!

Then why the heck are you here?

To criticize and spread awareness..

[Smart]

profastian wrote,
I have answered your questions in one of the above posts.

No, you have not.You have quoted me, without an answer. You claims of the knowledge of the syedna do not stand upto scrutiny.

[profastian]

profastian wrote,
I have answered your questions in one of the above posts.

No, you have not.You have quoted me, without an answer. You claims of the knowledge of the syedna do not stand upto scrutiny.

Read between the lines of the post or go and get your eyesigt be checked

[Smart]

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Sorry, I assumed you were intelligent enough to put your own comments outside the quote window. I stand corrected, because my assumption was misplaced.

[profastian]

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Sorry, I assumed you were intelligent enough to put your own comments outside the quote window. I stand corrected, because my assumption was misplaced.

Its not about intelligence dude. Your questions were not worthy enough for too much of my time.

[Smart]

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Then why bother to answer them.

Actually by your standards all progressive are idiots, so what are you doing here arguing with them. Go and learn mathematics and other sciences from your lord and master. That will be time well spent and the bonus will be that you go to jannat directly.

[incredible]

like I have said before, no one in their right mind would convert this sick cult of syedna, because there are NO good reasons!!

Then why the heck are you here?

bless you

Very good answers to stupid al-zulfi

[Conscíous]

I dont know if there is suppose to be some hidden meaning behind the wordings of this Madeh, But sajada is only for Allah and Allah alone.

aqs, you are quite a master at dancing around prickly issues aren't you? you are perfect material for a politician.

where does the issue of "hidden meaning: in the madeh come from? there is no hidden meaning. period.

it is CLEARLY addressed to syedna, is reproduced from a dawat publication, OBVIOUSLY WITH RAZA, and the cover page (all links provided by porus) expressly states it is for that purpose.

now will you agree that syedna is promoting shirk or you have some more wiggling left to entertain us with?

aqsnake...

This is the tread, you cowedly ran from..
Since your on fire, why don't you finish this discussion you had with Al Zulfiqar..

[profastian]

where in the Quran is it said that there should be no Sajda except to Allah

[porus]

where in the Quran is it said that there should be no Sajda except to Allah

إنّك رجلا جاهلا جدا يا حمّار

[profastian]

where in the Quran is it said that there should be no Sajda except to Allah

إنّك رجلا جاهلا جدا يا حمّار

Yeah i know I am ignorant, so humor me.
where in the Quran is it said that there should be no Sajda except to Allah?

[SBM]

Yeah i know I am ignorant, so humor me.
where in the Quran is it said that there should be no Sajda except to Allah?

profastian

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Where does it say in QURAN that sajda to Syedna is wajib?
Sajda tujhe wajib hey...........