Dawoodi Bohra Forum

One thing to note is that Syedna has been felicitating Bal Thakrey (The most Anti-Muslim In Bombay) on most of his birthdays without fail with the picture ceremony to publish in local news papers & yet the bohras were not spared in the infamous riots that occured in bombay few years ago! Syedna never condemned those Shivsena people who were involved! But he is still leaking their as--es!

Muslim,

social advancement Uhh..how does economic development prevent Muslims girls from dying in a fire, get an education, wear a veil or go to school ????? So if a developed country respresses women, they are not developed economically ?

Asinine & igorant....dangerous combination.

Damn...those pictures posted by admin are pretty revealing...Qiyam are u OK with the fact that your money is supporting this ?

E - mail just received by me! Syedna is going to leak him again! how unfaithful can you be to your fellow bohras & muslims ? Shame on him!

Baad es Salaam,

Chief Minister of Gujarat Narendra Modi is scheduled to meet Sultaan Syedna
Mohammed Burhanuddin Saheb (T.U.S.) at 9:30 AM today.

Vassalaam
Abde Syedna (T.U.S.)
Khuzaima Shk. Yaseenali

There is a news item in today's (Friday, 2nd ct. 03)Mumbai Samachar:
Forthcoming Development Opportunities in Gujarat-Says Dr. Sayedna
Ganghi Nagar- Gujarat today is on the path of peace and prosperity and in this situation the Head of the Dawoodi Bohra Community, Dr. Sayedna Saheb says that suitable opportunities for developments have arisen now. Chief Minister Narendra Modi today paid visit to the Arabic University at Surat and got blessings of Sayedna Saheb. On this occasion Modi said it is time that it is the duty of the religious leaders to be liberal and come forward for Gujarat’s development. In his meeting with Sayedna the Chief Minister expressed his remembrance his close association of Dawoodi Bohra families in Vadnagar and showed a plan to spent Rs. 51 Crores more for Gujarat and similar sum for Surat so give employments to lakhs of youth and requested Sayedna Saheb to show his good gesture.
The leading Bohra businessmen, Murtuza, Sayyadul Khair Bhaisaheb, Shaikh Abdul Husain Tabiva, Shaikh Ibrahin Dungarpurwala etc. gave warm reception to Modi and approved his development plans.

1) With this news Sayedna's association with hardcore Hindutva ellements is clear
2) His regular financial help to them is clear be it under any name.
3) After all the efforts to kill Muslims physically and financially Modi is advising Sayedna to be liberal.

There is a news item in today's (Friday, 2nd ct. 03)Mumbai Samachar:
Forthcoming Development Opportunities in Gujarat-Says Dr. Sayedna
Ganghi Nagar- Gujarat today is on the path of peace and prosperity and in this situation the Head of the Dawoodi Bohra Community, Dr. Sayedna Saheb says that suitable opportunities for developments have arisen now. Chief Minister Narendra Modi today paid visit to the Arabic University at Surat and got blessings of Sayedna Saheb. On this occasion Modi said it is time that it is the duty of the religious leaders to be liberal and come forward for Gujarat’s development. In his meeting with Sayedna the Chief Minister expressed his remembrance his close association of Dawoodi Bohra families in Vadnagar and showed a plan to spent Rs. 51 Crores more for Gujarat and similar sum for Surat so give employments to lakhs of youth and requested Sayedna Saheb to show his good gesture.
The leading Bohra businessmen, Murtuza, Sayyadul Khair Bhaisaheb, Shaikh Abdul Husain Tabiva, Shaikh Ibrahin Dungarpurwala etc. gave warm reception to Modi and accepted his development plans.

1) With this news Sayedna's association with hardcore Hindutva ellements is clear
2) His regular financial help to them is clear be it under any name.
3) After all the efforts to kill Muslims physically and financially Modi is advising Sayedna to be liberal.

how does economic development prevent Muslims girls from dying in a fire, get an education, wear a veil or go to school

Economic progress can lead to more resources available for improved education that would change cultural attitudes, which in turn can help advance women's status in society.

So if a developed country respresses women, they are not developed economically ?

As I said before "developed" means both developed both economically as well as socially. If a developed country represses women in general, it would not be "developed" in the first place so your question is self-contradictory.

Admin, I guess the pictures supplied to you by S. Insaf have probably come out of Badre Muneer or Nasime Sahar. Could you pls check the dates of the publication. The reason I ask is very important. I want to clarify that the photograph of Modi was taken before or after the Gujarat riots. Or if you were provided the scanned copies by S Insaf then could he pls provide the dates from the magazine.
Also could you pls comment on the fact that the excerpt below Vajpayee's photograph

Syedna's son, Qaid Johar paying a visit to the Prime Minister Shri. Atal Bihari Vajpayee, congratulating him on behalf of Syedna for handling the Gujarat Situation

was taken from the magazine or was your imagination or was S. Insaf's imagination.

A History Refresher (
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It is a well known fact that BJP is a concern of RSS ( like VHS and Bajrang Dal) and for almost a century they are working against the muslims and this is a well known fact. Those having a doubt should go and verify from the history books and indian history of last 150 years. Vajpayaee , Advani, Murli Manohar Joshi, Modi, Bal Thackrey the list goes on, were those who master minded and planned the razing of Babri Masjid (right now not discussing what were the politcal reasons) and the massacre of muslims on and after december 6th 1992 including Bohras. Gujrat came after almost a decade and during the time in between every one from commoner to the wise one knew that what is the agenda of these people.

It is strange that people are still seeking proof that the Bohra leader or leaders met or established friendly contact with such elements.

The question here are
1- Are Bohras muslim or not???
2- If Bohras think they are a part of muslim Ummah then, Why the Bohra leader Syedna Burhanuddin ( or his deputies) remain in friendly contact with such people who have blood of innocent muslims on there hands for over the last 50 years.
3-Why Even the leader or any of his deputies didn't condemned their act in any media ( print or electronic..) at any time?????
4- Those who still seek the proof that whether such meetings took place before or after the gujrat massacre are quite ignorant, Gujrat was an episode but this massacre of muslims is going on by these leaders for quite some time??? Can any one explain to me what is the logic to shake hands or pose for a snap with such persons who are open and sworn anti muslims.
Specially of a leader of the stature of Syedna Burhanuddin who claims to be the Holyman ????

5- If Bohras are Muslim and the Bohra sect comes under the umbrella of Islam such acts by their leader and his deputies needs explanation and a food for thought for those who can think???

Can people on this forum enlighten me with there views and provide me answers to the above questions.

Salaam

The present Bohra religious and spiritual head, Sayedna Mohammed Burhanuddin has never bother about the religious aspects and social welfare of his community members in particular and Muslims in general. He and his family's sole mission in life is to exploit all resources religious, social and political which can 1) generate wealth for them 2) which can protect their vested interests and which can glorify their images in the society so that they can carry on their extortion.
Bohras originated from Gujarat. Seat of Dawat before Sayedna Taher Saifuddin has remained in Surat for many years. And Sayedna owns a good numbers of properties and income from charity boxes kept on various mazars in Gujarat. Majority of their regular sources of income i.e. Dawoodi Bohras still reside in Gujarat. So knowing that Narendra Modi is a Buchar of Gujarat Muslims Sayedna still invited him and favoured him with Rs. 1 Crore cheque. This was done NOT to save Bohras, NOT to save Muslims but to protect his own self-interests.
In 1988 when he created a riot between Bohras and Sunni Muslims by cursing first three Khalifas of Islam publicly, Sayedna ran away from the scene in police jeep. And I have seen with my own eyes that four of Amils were shouting from first floor windows of Saifee Masjid in Bhindi Bazar, Bombay: Age badho! Tadal dikhao! inciting Bohras to fight with Sunni Muslims. There were many Shiv Saniks in Bohra caps on their head with Bohras who were hitting Muslims with sticks and soda water bottles. Shiv Saniks could be easily identified as they were wearing saffron patta round their necks and they were in ordinary shirt pent. This was also reported in the newspapers next day, on 23rd August 1988. Three innocent Bohras and two Sunni Muslims died in this riot.
After this heavy loss of lives and properties of Bohras and Muslims Sayedna remained adamant claiming in statements given newspapers that cursing the Khalifas is his Maslak (faith or belief) and Sunnis have no right get exited about it. But finally he apologized on TV and then in writing.
Such is our present Sayedna! The Rains-maker! The guarantor of a place in Heaven! The only ‘Speaking Quran’ in the world today! Tasleemat and Sajadat to him!

Br Simon; You are still bent on asking--Before Or After? Do you want to SPIN the truth after hearing & reading so mny people?

I can not believe that kothar was one of the first to felicitate this greatest butcher in history of Gujarat when he was reelected

I am not spinning the truth. You had mentioned that Shahzadas had felicitated Modi in a public function when he was re-elected. My take on this is - the photograph of ordinary Bohras is the photograph taken of Modi winning from Rajkot when he was first elected to the chief minister's port. This was definitely before Gujarat riots.
The reason which leads me to believe is
- After Gujarat riots, Modi would not dare venture in the open in Muslim locality without 'Z class' security.

I dont know whether the 'spinning' on part of Md.Husain, S.Insaf and Admin is deliberate or an oversight.

So tell me agaian..

What was Burhanuddin doing with Butcher of Gujrat?

Reformists

Why is it such an issue for you to identify the sources and dates of the publications from which the pictures were taken?

Simon & Jah! If syedna has met modi just a month ago (Post- Riots) in Surat-What difference does it make it to you that he did not meet him right after the riot/ Does that make Modi any different man ? For your info Modi has been a die hard RSS Guy all his life +Anti muslim never apologizing to Muslims -Syedna meets him scratch his back to save his own illegal criminal financial empire -And this is the bitter truth fellows -Hard to swalllow for Abde Syednas!!!!!!!!