TERROR ATTACKS IN MUMBAI

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Re: TERROR ATTACKS IN MUMBAI

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Nov 28, 2008 6:21 pm

WHO IS THE TERRORIST ?

{BELOW: Official 1947 UN Partition Map}

For the benefit of those who say: "We don't know!!" By brute force.
of Israel tore UN Resolution 181 and occupied much more territories than it was allotted by that Resolution which gave Israel its statehood & membership in the UN... Then indulged in the systematic butchering
and transfer of the Palestinian inhabitants.

-ZIONIST QUOTES-
The removal of Arabs bodily from Palestine is part of the Zionist plan to "spirit the penniless population across the frontier by denying it employment...Both the process of expropriation and the removal of
the poor must be carried away discreetly and circumspectly." -Theodore Herzl- (Founder of the World Zionist Organization) Complete Diaries, June 12, 1895 entry.

"Has any People ever been seen to give up their territory of their own free will? In the same way, the Arabs of Palestine will not renounce their sovereignty without violence." -Vladimir Jabotinsky-
(Founder and advocate of the Zionist terrorist organizations) Quoted by Maxime Rodinson in "Peuple Juif ou Problem Juif". (Jewish People or Jewish Problem).

"Between ourselves it must be clear that there is no room for both peoples together in this country. We shall not achieve our goal if the Arabs are in this small country. There is no other way than to transfer the Arabs from here to neighboring countries - all of them.
Not one village, not one tribe should be left." -Joseph Weitz-
Head of the Jewish Agency's Colonization Department in 1940.
From "A Solution to the Refugee Problem" Joseph Weitz, Davar,
September 29, 1967, cited in Uri Davis and Norton Mevinsky, eds.,
Documents from Israel, 1967-1973, p.21.

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Re: TERROR ATTACKS IN MUMBAI

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Unread post by znanwalla » Sat Nov 29, 2008 2:43 am

In case anyone is interested, they can check this out .....

In a message dated 28/11/2008 3:18:58 A.M. Central Standard Time, DRTAHER@GMAIL.COM writes:
Hi,

I just signed an urgent message calling for unity following the attacks in Mumbai. Read the email below - Thanks

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Dear friends across India and the world,

We're all feeling the shock of the awful attacks in Mumbai. All our hearts go out to the victims and their families.

The attacks were aimed at our people, our prosperity and our peace. But their top target was something else: our unity. If these attacks cause us to turn on each other in hatred and conflict, the terrorists will have won. They know that hatred and chaos feed on division. They also know that as radical extremists, their only hope of winning is by turning the rest of us against each other.

Let's deny them that victory. We're launching a message to extremists on all sides and all our political leaders, one that will soon be published in newspapers across India and Pakistan. The message is that these tactics aren't working, that we're more united than ever, united in our love and support to each other, and determined to work together to stop violent extremism. If millions of people sign it, our message will be unmistakable, click below to sign it and please forward this email widely:

http://www.avaaz.org/en/india_undivided ... _tf_sign=1

It's time to speak out, let's do it together.

Thanks
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OPENTRACK

You are receiving this email because someone sent it to you via the "tell-a-friend" tool at Avaaz.org. Avaaz retains no information about individuals contacted through this tool. Avaaz will not send you further messages without your consent--although your friends could, of course, send you another message.

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Re: TERROR ATTACKS IN MUMBAI

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Unread post by znanwalla » Sat Nov 29, 2008 3:06 am

Areef,

Let me assure you that we do not agree with what has happened in Iraq....we hold the view that this was a "mother" of all blunders and we have spoken also against it....infact it was our Imam who went to 10 Downing street and tried to convince Tony Blair NOT to attack Iraq....even today the Imam still laments over this tragedy and the mistake they have made....however we cannot condemn an entire nation for the misconceived actions of its Government as that would be unislamic....in the same token when Mr Bush called Iran and other two countries "axis of evil ", whilst many were cowering in the shadows, it was once again our Imam who spoke openly and protested saying this was grossly unfair as neither all Iranians are evil nor all Westerners.....

It is rather dangerous to play this game of "tit for tat" with each other ! we need to understand the consequences of all this that is happening around us.....if I am not mistaken, to some extent the Americans and the British were also misled by some individuals who led them to believe that Iraq needed to be "liberated"....so a mixture of hypocrisy, dishonesty and ignorance has now led to this mother of all blunders...Iraq has been our "cradle of civilization" and so don't think we are not concerned or anxious?

Infact my son sponsored the run of a movie in North America, with the theme of "say No to the war" !....let me assure you that it is quite costly to do such a run ......we showed people the consequences and the costs of such wars....

Let me ask you something ! which government is there today in Iraq? is it not a muslim government? did they not approve that Americans extend their stay? they did !.....so the question is why? let me ask you another question? are the muslims in Iraq united or are they sorely divided and killing each other ?

Many women in Iraq have now ended in brothels unfortunately and this is extremely sad for me at least....please tell me what have the other muslims collectively done to help them? and when Iraq was attacked did the Americans move forward with the knowledge and consent of some of the key muslim countries and also using their countries as their base? Yes or No ?.....so do you feel that the Americans and the British were actually encouraged to attack Iraq? or do you think the muslim world was entirely helpless in this regard having no say?

Yes! they did not listen to the advice of the Imam and now the results are in front of everyone to see....but was the muslim world so helpless?....let me know....or do you think we do not mourn the deaths of our thousands of brothers and sisters?....zn

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Re: TERROR ATTACKS IN MUMBAI

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Unread post by znanwalla » Sat Nov 29, 2008 3:37 am

Ghulambhai,

What you say is perhaps correct that the land belongs to the Arabs ! but then is this truly a religious issue? or is it a political one? this needs to be established first and what has the arab world done to achieve a resolution for 50 plus years? is fighting wars with a more powerful opponent a solution? is sacrificing more Palestinian lives a solution here? or don't you feel everyone should make a concerted effort to bring about a firm negotiated settlement, amicable to all sides?.....don't you feel that there are political forces at play which frankly are not sincere or keen to bring any resolution to this inherited problems left behind by the British?

The cry for a National Home for the Jews does not necessarily appeal to many of us...unfortunately their "sanaction" is sought in their scriptures.... it is perhaps wrong to impose on the arabs to whom Palestine belongs in the same sense that Europe belongs to the Europeans and France belongs to the French etc etc

So what is happening today in that part of the world cannot be justified by any moral standards of conduct and so there does exist a crime here also....so one must disagree with this kind of "religious zeal' which sort of propagates "exclusivity" or "militant nationalism" in whose name inhumanity tends to become an act of humanity...be this here or elsewhere ! The world at large does not accept this notion or premise.

I think both sides need to reconcile to an understanding that a religious act cannot be conducted with the use of force and that the same God rules every heart and so then the question which arises here is what now can be the just treatment one should pursue and how can the arab hearts be won? and how can the muslim countries help achieve the desired solutions? and are they really interested?.....and in the same breath I would say that one should also not mix zionism with Jews also...and in the same manner one cannot scream "death to America", as many many americans are also muslims.....or one cannot call Iran an "axis of evil' as some of the Iranians are very nice people and not evil at all....and so this rule is universal in nature.....we have to apply the ethics of islam as islam is a way of life too.....Salaams...zn