Sayedna hospitalized in London for stroke

[Safiuddin]

@prfofastian
Burhanuddin and his family's behaviour IS condemnable, unconscionable, and what's more,
the hypocrites are the white-robed, daari-sporting, pious-acting money collectors that
beat their chests at every opportunity and lament Husain Imam, then a few minutes later carry on as if nothing had happened.

The hypocrites are the zaadas who claim to serve god, yet serve only their own selfish, worldly interests.
At least the reformist movement has made clear their ideal. Burhanuddin et al have used the cover of piousness
to hide their true wolf's agenda.
There is no reason that someone's behaviour can't be confronted and criticized - and Burhanuddin is no exception.
Anyone can criticize and question him - and they should. According to your beliefs, it must be gunaah to speak out against him,
or ask questions about what his family does to the people they claim to shepherd. What this adds up to is an autocratic regime.

Please place your call to return to this haraam and sick version of Islam in YOUR backside.

[Safiuddin]

Nalwala,

The creep is you, who harrassed a female at work and then claimed Burhanuddin came to you in a dream, and tried to offset your crime by talking about it here.
Hypocrite, slimey, unmoraled people like you are the first to throw stones at anyone that doesn't subscribe to your pat little views of the universe. Unlike you, I have the fortitutde to speak my mind and not play both sides of the fence.
I suggest you go to Saify mahal with your little namaazi rumaal amd see if you can harrass any of the ladies over there.

In case you forget your hankie, a large envelope full of cash will cancel out your naapaaki.

[seeker110]

Nalwala,please read the letter to the governer of Basra by Moula Ali.

[ghulam muhammed]

Although the tone used by Mr.Saifudin was improper but one cannot deny the fact that he is atleast a frank and straight forward person who doesnt believe in mincing words. His views may have antagonised many but if one sits back and thinks then one would agree that the world has no sympathy for tyrants, now whether the dai is a tyrant or not is an individual perception but for the ones who think so will never have sympathy for him and in this case, the dai is a tyrant according to Mr.Saifudin.

The talibans will react in the same manner if anyone abuses Osama bin laden because according to them he is a hero whereas the world has a different opinion of him, he is a terrorist for them but a holy soldier (jihadi) for the talibans.

[sihh]

With reference to the harsh commnets from sajjad and saifuddin. I would like to say that they cannot be Mumin and their faces are black as i have seen in pictures. They are totally FROM YAZEEDI'S family. How can they think and says "making gulab jaman" Oh!. But the truth is here. Well you can only burn with your black faces and nothing can be done from you. So LANAT is wajib on you . GO TO HELL. Dawat is going on........... and will run till Qiyamat. May Allah Bless Syedna Mohammad Burhanuddin T.U.S till judgment day "AMEEN".

[ghulam muhammed]

Does anyone from london jamat know the hospital in which the dai is being treated ? Has any bohra visited the hospital and did deedar of the dai after Saturday, 4th June ?

[master.b00t]

nalwala tamara ghare badhaj phota nikali ne fakt burhanudin noj photo tamare rakhwo joiye !

[Safiuddin]

Temper, temper Nullwala. Since you believe you are my elder, I should tell you the risk of stroke increases with age.
Now how you could possibly know you are my elder is beyond me.
Perhaps it was a wahii from Burhanuddin? Special powers?
But you "resent being called old". 34 years old, right? Why, your'e still just a petulant child.
You have so many years to go before you mature.

Now let me make something clear to you: I have no intention of buggering off anywhere.
Burhanuddin's death will hold no grief for me - and I have no plans to pretend otherwise, so i don't upset little Nalwala.
You come here because you "have doubts", and "questions that need answering". Then you object to anyone who
says something that goes against your pat little sensibilities. You lash out like an adolescent and tell people to leave.
I'm sorry, huzoor, I don't recall receiving your ilhaam dismissing me from this forum.

You call names and mention people's parents. How absolutely grade school of you.
Why, you're still calling me names now, and yet, somehow - still claim to throw no stones!
What this suggests is that when you can't get your way, you act out like a luchi chokri.
You take the words of one and generalize it to many others. That means you stereotype.
Hmmmmm. And what kind of people do that? If it's so offensive to you, then why come here?

And you mentioned your oh-so-high-and-mighty upbringing? Yes, it's apparent what that is.
Why, anyone can see THAT.
According to your philosophy, then, did you say sadaqallah for your fellow
Muslim, Osama Bin Laden? Are you planning on having a fateha jaman for Khadafi? Do you say prayers for Jean Claude Duvalier?
Oh but wait - you said you went to the funeral of your worst enemy. How did you hide your animosity?
Under a ridaa or a veil of lies?

I think deep down, you really don't believe in Burhanuddin or his message. So you come here to offset that guilt and pretend that you're defending your cult leader.

Now go have some water, sit somewhere, and be quiet for a while. Then you'll hear your doubts and insecurities.
If you listen, you may learn something. And then do try and grow up, little boy.

[porus]

Still no official news of Sayedna's condition?

Isn't this so typical? Aamils all over the world never tire of posing a rhetorical question "Wouldn't you do this for your parents and wouldn't you do that for your parents? And here is someone who is both your father and your mother....?"

Well. If one of my parents had suffered a stroke, I would be constantly at their side and pestering doctors to tell me about their condition continually. Unfortunately, either the Bohras have been so numbed as to be unable to make an honest inquiry or they are in absolute fear of the censure of authorities for even daring to hint at a question about Sayedna's health.

All the 'bushra' about nass but not even a hint of Sayedna's health or his whereabouts! And the wonder is that Bohras do display any outrage about it.

[anajmi]

did you say sadaqallah for your fellow Muslim, Osama Bin Laden? Are you planning on having a fateha jaman for Khadafi? Do you say prayers for Jean Claude Duvalier?


Nope! i leave it for fanatical morons

Precisely my dear 34 year old, precisely!!!

[Humsafar]

Still no official news of Sayedna's condition?
All the 'bushra' about nass but not even a hint of Sayedna's health or his whereabouts! And the wonder is that Bohras do display any outrage about it.

porus, even I was wondering about it. Now the abdes have their "magnificent mansoos" how quickly have they forgotten their old, sick moula. Till yesterday they were running around like slit chickens celebrating his 100th milad, today they don't even want to know his whereabouts. Isn't that strange and creepy. They are so ecstatic about the new dai and they have no time to grieve for the old one - who is dying, or might already be dead. What a community. What a community!!

[Muslim First]

I like to find out which hospital, in critical care room leaves 96 year old man alone with 4 angelic men with glass of Sharbat in hand?

[ozmujaheed]

Times of India reported he was in London for medical? Why does India not have the treatment what iswrong with his health

Very strange that the patient flies to see a doctor when in his stature they can fly the doctor to s and what is so see him.

How can a person who has suffered a stroke proclaim a Naas while in ICU..Is it one word or a sermon?

Even the valueless misaq takes a good 30 mins to recite.

The reason to be cynical is if one tries to visualise the scenario one will wonder was their really a Naas or the corrupt brother in corridor discussion cooked up a story to fool the gullible Abdes

[profastian]

Times of India reported he was in London for medical? Why does India not have the treatment what iswrong with his health

Very strange that the patient flies to see a doctor when in his stature they can fly the doctor to s and what is so see him.

How can a person who has suffered a stroke proclaim a Naas while in ICU..Is it one word or a sermon?

Even the valueless misaq takes a good 30 mins to recite.

The reason to be cynical is if one tries to visualise the scenario one will wonder was their really a Naas or the corrupt brother in corridor discussion cooked up a story to fool the gullible Abdes

This is the power of lies of the proggies. How they ensnare people in their trap.

Where the heck did the get the idea that the DAI was in ICU. was it an official announcement.
According to the official announcement the Syedna was ok when he proclaimed Nass. And its not a sermon. Just a single sentence.

[seeker110]

The only problem is Prof.,wasnt there to record it on his cell phone.Its a miracle only three people saw it.Syedna na ghanna easan chea apna ooper.

[ozmujaheed]

Prof so you know what happened?

Was it a stroke ?

Why is unable to communicate ?

Why the naas in such haste ?

[SAJJAD]

Why there is no news from his zadas or kothar about Burhanuddin ever since he had stroke? Everything is so hushed up and the abdes are uninformed about his whereabouts and health condition. Even the latest nass drama is so controversial.

Last time when Burhan was sick the whole community (especially the abdes) was in a fiasco and doing all sorts of weird things to save him from dying that included poorjosh matam, dreaded dareeses, visiting raudat tahera temple, slaughtering innocent animals and the unforgettable marathon of walking to different towns and visiting graves and mazars.

This is really mind boggling!

[anajmi]

This is a democracy. Anyone can be concerned with anyone's health for any reason. Who are you to stop them?

[porus]

Official silence about Sayedna's condition is absolutely deafening! No calls to prayers for his health, no more maatam majlises being held, no more exhortations to offer sacrifices!!

Something is very fishy and things don't just add up!

[Humsafar]

mustafanalwala, looks like you are beginning to lose your cool. Your posts are getting a bit edgy, which is quite out of character. I wonder why. As for Maula's health we are not any more or any less concerned about it than we usually are. What concerns is that you abdes are concerned. Where is the hysteria and prayer and matam for the long life of Sayedna? It seems, now that you have got your new Maula you don't care about the old one, huh. You are not getting any diktats from your masters so you abdes do not know how to react, whether to laugh or to cry, to sit or stand. This is what happens when grown men and women allow themselves to turn into puppets. Maybe you've realised this deep down and that's what making you so testy. Just saying!!!

[labbaikyaHussain]

Official silence about Sayedna's condition is absolutely deafening! No calls to prayers for his health, no more maatam majlises being held, no more exhortations to offer sacrifices!!

Something is very fishy and things don't just add up!

MAY BE NOW ITS ALL NOT NEEDED...AFTER ALL SYEDNA OR ANY ONE ELSE ALL ARE MORTALS.

BTW FOUND THIS ON ZENINFOSYS

Mumineen are requested to recite the Abyaat Sharifa Daily for the Shifa-E-Kulli for our Beloved Huzurala TUS.

http://www.zeninfosys.net/zi6/content/a ... fa-e-kulli

[porus]

Yes, but that one is now old. We need today's news.

[seeker110]

Phook nu Pani

[SBM]

Interesting he also has an abde type following and he was going to live till world ends (qayamat)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/atlantic/201106 ... oke38757_1

[accountability]

Porus you are right, something is very fishy. I am hearing chatter, But I cannot confirm that. There is lot going on behind the screen.
You rightly pointed out that Syedna saheb has been forgotten, Bohras are so selfish, they dumped the God they have been prostrating to just recently, when the new one emerged.

[aqs]

Porus you are right, something is very fishy. I am hearing chatter, But I cannot confirm that. There is lot going on behind the screen.
You rightly pointed out that Syedna saheb has been forgotten, Bohras are so selfish, they dumped the God they have been prostrating to just recently, when the new one emerged.

Br. Accountability,

its not correct that Bohras are not concerned or they have forgotten. The last news which came was that Syedna(tus) had got a mild stroke and he is better now, and people should pray for his healthy recovery. Now there is no reason people should be unduly worried. And their are patches when their is absolutely no news about Syedna when he has gone for some treatment and this time also its not any different.

People are worried but not as much as undue concern being shown on this forum.

[profastian]

Lets get this out in the open. They do not want news. They want bad news. That is a fact whether they admit it or not. The vultures are waiting for Maula Mufaddal to ascend to the throne so they can start the Nass fitnat full blown. Come on proggies. Admin it.

[Smart]

Official silence about Sayedna's condition is absolutely deafening! No calls to prayers for his health, no more maatam majlises being held, no more exhortations to offer sacrifices!!

Something is very fishy and things don't just add up!

Seconded, I have the same feelings. The contrast in the behaviour of the abdes before the nass and after is glaring!

[ghulam muhammed]

Lets get this out in the open. They do not want news. They want bad news. That is a fact whether they admit it or not. The vultures are waiting for Maula Mufaddal to ascend to the throne so they can start the Nass fitnat full blown. Come on proggies. Admin it.

Bro profastian,

News is news and it can be good or bad, by the way what is bad news according to you that the reformists are waiting for ? Lets get it out in the open. And if there is bad news then what will be your reaction to it ? By the way the giant vultures that are waiting for Mufaddalbhai saab to ascend to the throne so they can start nass fitnat full blown are the ones residing in Saifee Mahal, have you forgotten the different groups and their internal rivalry to succeed the current dai which was very much out in the open ? Come on abdes admit it.

[Conscíous]

Syedna Saheb is much better now and is leaving on Friday to India