Lives touched by Huzurala TUS

[truebohra]

he intellectuals believe it when something like Moon was halved by prophet? Can you tell me why do you believe it? Any rationale behind it?

Because either it is mentioned in Quran or from Authentic Hadiaths.
If you are intelligent enough, tell me how do you know Shimar had "Lokhand naa chappal and Kutra jewo Mou aney Baar Ragrra" except for Bohra clergy no one describes like that, any rationale to believe in this?.

Yes, Because it is narrated by our Dai (tus) Whom you also consider Dai Mutlaq of current time DONT YOU? By the way who told you about the authenticity of hadiths? Or is it like it depends upon your whims & fancy?

[truebohra]

OMG
Why are you guys spamming my thread huh?? Can you read anywhere it says; lives touched by Sai Baba, Agakhani or Prophet Mohammed (SAW)??
Please read the title of the thread before posting and take your fight somewhere else..
Thanks

Admin,
Can you please delete all those posts which has nothing to do with this thread..
Thanks

Yes, Because it is narrated by our Dai (tus) Whom you also consider Dai Mutlaq of current time DONT YOU? By the way who told you about the authenticity of hadiths? Or is it like it depends upon your whims & fancy?

BUM.... ignore this post it not for you

[Conscíous]

I know, it wasn't for me... I've tried to ignore & not to involve between you two.. but it's getting to much guys.. You both have made your point and now lets leave it there please..
thanks

[SBM]

Because either it is mentioned in Quran or from Authentic Hadiaths.
If you are intelligent enough, tell me how do you know Shimar had "Lokhand naa chappal and Kutra jewo Mou aney Baar Ragrra" except for Bohra clergy no one describes like that, any rationale to believe in this?.

Yes, Because it is narrated by our Dai (tus) Whom you also consider Dai Mutlaq of current time DONT YOU? By the way who told you about the authenticity of hadiths? Or is it like it depends upon your whims & fancy?

Sorry Boom but I have to reply
So Dai Mutlaq does not make mistakes or makes up the Bayaan, if you believe in that then why did he have to
apologize on National TV after he created a riot by sending Lanaat on 1st 3 caliphs.
And to answer you about authencity, I use my God given Brain and not become some blind brain pea abde to believe everything a 12 year old Shezaadas or Bhai saheb says. I do read and study books and Quran on my own again due to God given brain which I suppose you do not have RAZA to use
Once again Boom sorry for taking you thread of mark

[Conscíous]

it's okey/ no problem and I'll just wait for you both to get finished

Ps. it would be a "Mojizas", if someone answered the post about Yemen

[truebohra]

SBM

Sorry Boom but I have to reply
So Dai Mutlaq does not make mistakes or makes up the Bayaan, if you believe in that then why did he have to
apologize on National TV after he created a riot by sending Lanaat on 1st 3 caliphs.
And to answer you about authencity, I use my God given Brain and not become some blind brain pea abde to believe everything a 12 year old Shezaadas or Bhai saheb says. I do read and study books and Quran on my own again due to God given brain which I suppose you do not have RAZA to use
Once again Boom sorry for taking you thread of mark

So you say whatever your brain believes to be Authentic , then it is considered to be authentic. Can you explain why your brain believe the mojizas of prophet as true? Can you explain why your brain believes whatever books read by you is true and authentic You proggys are champions of rationalism Can you enlighten us with your belief process ?
Please dont take it in wrong way? Its just curiosity of mine ? I want to know the ideas of bright minds.

[SBM]

TB
do not try to divert about my brain, Can you use your brain if you have RAZA to answer the following I asked

So Dai Mutlaq does not make mistakes or makes up the Bayaan, if you believe in that then why did he have to
apologize on National TV after he created a riot by sending Lanaat on 1st 3 caliphs.

[truebohra]

TB
do not try to divert about my brain, Can you use your brain if you have RAZA to answer the following I asked

So Dai Mutlaq does not make mistakes or makes up the Bayaan, if you believe in that then why did he have to
apologize on National TV after he created a riot by sending Lanaat on 1st 3 caliphs.

Yes, we believe so. Molana Ali, did arbitration in battle of siffin, Molana Hassan did truce with Muwaviya. The actions are justified in context of situation. Now having answered your questions i expect same from you to answer mine.
PS : We can argue on my current statment after you give annswer.

[SBM]

TB:Yes, we believe so.

Well if you think he can not make mistake then I suppose you have no RAZA to use your brain and I have NO desire to waste my time and take
AWAY BooM's space. "Bhens key Aagai Been Baja Ke" kiya Faida
BOOM: I AM DONE WITH THIS ON YOUR THREAD THANKS FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING

[truebohra]

TB:Yes, we believe so.

Well if you think he can not make mistake then I suppose you have no RAZA to use your brain and I have NO desire to waste my time and take
AWAY BooM's space. "Bhens key Aagai Been Baja Ke" kiya Faida
BOOM: I AM DONE WITH THIS ON YOUR THREAD THANKS FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING

Run Run with your tail between your bum....

[Conscíous]

truebohra,
Before you start portraying others of being a coward, why don't you give me an answer why did Syedna saheb, contradict himself about the situation in Yemen, when he is suppose to be omniscient??

[Al Zulfiqar]

let us consider other mojizas...

the despotic ruler of egypt who awarded the title 'vishaun neel' to syedna suffered a most ignominous exit

the tyrant ali abdullah saleh who awarded syedna the title of 'mansoorul yemen' followed suit, his face, hands and body blackened like syedna taher saifuddin at his death

the goonda dawood ibrahim whom syedna used to garland and put a shawl on every eid has been exiled in pakistan, wanted by interpol

the scholar of islam who has become a thorn in the kothar's side and whom they tried several times to murder, is still alive and will inshallah outlast syedna

the progressive jamaat properties in canada which kothar tried to take by all means failed, and is still in their possession

ditto with udaipur properties

su eni niraali shaan chhe,,!!!

[Conscíous]

Following interview of Ali Asgar Matcheswalla, Shareqa (UAE) by Mudar Patherya (Calcutta):

WE WERE shifting house in Bangkok in 1997. I was responsible for the transfer. Carrying bags. Pulling out drawers. Carting material.

It must have been a big drawer full of hardware tools that triggered a sharp pain down my leg. The doctor pronounced: severe scoliosis of 35% in my upper frame caused by a major disc herniation of lumbars 4 and 5. Only medical intervention could resolve this.

It didn’t. As time passed, the pain grew worse. Deeper. Sharper. Longer. Nights would be sleepless; days painful.

Meanwhile, I became a victim for medical experimentation. Chinese massage. Acupuncture. Chiropractor adjustment. Ultra sound. Laser treatment. Physiotherapy exercise. Ozone injections in the disc. Yoga. You name it, I underwent it.

Defeated by every medical intervention across three years, I finally resolved to seek my final medical intervention. Huzurala.

Huzurala was to attend a ziafat (in Singapore). Since it was almost maghrib we were specifically asked not to tender any araz. This was my dilemma …my last chance, directive for no araz, my last chance, directive for no araz.

Huzurala appeared. He walked towards where I stood. He walked past. Finally, I cried in anguish, "Maula! Hu Bangkok si aayo chhu, aney maney kamar ma bau dukhe chey! Bau problem chhey!" It was more the last plea of a drowning man than a formal araz.

Huzurala stopped, turned slightly in my direction, ‘saw me’ for about 10 seconds (eternity!), smiled and proceeded. This is what I felt: someone pouring water down my back.

The pain went away forever

http://bohranet.com/part_2%3A_will_this ... er_end_%3F

[Al Zulfiqar]

this thread is located in the right forum. we welcome the hilarity.

[Conscíous]

[Al Zulfiqar]

i most gladly welcome all syedna's slaves from posting in copious qty's their own and other abdes' mojizas with syedna on this thread.

if i get to read one mojiza a day, esp. first thing in the morning, the day passes with good humour and lightens the mood. i do not kick stray cats, i give alms to beggars, and i smile at any passing abdes, all signs of mojiza induced nobility.

i invite bro. mustafanalwala to post the complete account of his mojiza, how he was saved from an almost certain legal suit and termination at work, besides facing an unwanted paternity test and public humiliation, when syedna appeared in his daydream in response to strong urges felt by mn.

i am sure it will be a most fascinating account which will uplift sagging spirits while restoring mn's flagging credibility and drooping morale.

[Conscíous]

LOL.. Your hilarious
It will be a mojizas if one of the abdes posts their miracles here.. maybe, we should try experimenting ourself and document it here??
To night, I'll sleep with a photo of my beloved Dai under my pillow to see if he manages to snick into my dreams

I'm open to new ideas

[Al Zulfiqar]

To night, I'll sleep with a photo of my beloved Dai under my pillow.... I'm open to new ideas

careful bro. boom. this could lead to your wife divorcing you, if she suspects your gender proclivities!

in the west, any man who sleeps with the photo of another man under his pillow is admittedly... well... part of the sodom and gomorrah club, if you know what i mean.... you could turn into a pillar of salt anytime!!

[Conscíous]

Why are you scaring me unnecessary, when you know I'm scared to do this ??
You know how hard it is to get rid of such beliefs and instead of supporting me, you're doing this to me right before I takeoff to La La land huh ?? I'll just hang the picture right above my head, because of the reason you've mentioned and i don't want the abdes to think, I'm disrespecting our Dai tus..
gooooooood nighty

[humanbeing]

Hi AZ / Boom
Expression of your satire is of poor humor

Hi AZ
There are agreements and disagreements over every topic we all come across at this forum. But usually there has been volley of insulting humor thrown against Bohra mumin belief.

Your rightful arguments / explanation / justifications loose credibility with your brash language. Your very talent of exceptional writing skills and intellectual thinking gets washed away in extreme display of your hatred towards the system & its people for which you claim to belong and reform.

There are thought provoking topics which are discussed on this forum, wherein members have contributed smartly or ignorantly. Even though many members may have not openly admitted to wrong practices in the current system, but are now made aware of right and wrongs. To believe or not is upto them. But by using such insulting humor, readers would not believe in your arguments.

If you really have an intention of doing your bit to reform this system, then you may want to think how you want to be understood. Every word expressed on this forum are forming opinions in minds of thousands who are reading it.

[Conscíous]

Hey and gooooooooooood morning guys,
Miraculous, I'm still alive and I must also admit, that I've slept quite well last night.., But I'm not sure if this was because of the picture of Syedna Saheb or the antidepressant and i don't remember seeing our Dai (tus) in my dreams neither

I guess, I'll just have to try this a few days more

[Conscíous]

Expression of your satire is of poor humor

Hey humanbeing,
I'm sorry, you feel like that bro.. When we try to have a serious discussion, the abdes never show up or just ignore the issue and I have to resolve to this kind language to get threw those thick heads..

[humanbeing]

Hi Boom

what is right .. is right .. and what is wrong…. is wrong ! when corrupt practices of the system are proven with facts, reasoning and logic, then its made clear. One need not beat the approval out of the readers. According to me various topics which are discussed on this forum are thought provoking, rest leave it on readers to decide what is best for them. But excessive abusing, offensive arguments will dilute the intention and credibility of this forum to make a difference in positive direction.
Frankly speaking no one is a slave in this modern world. Everyone has a reason, a benefit, a need to attach to a system.

[Al Zulfiqar]

hb,
show me where i have used vulgarity and abused or insulted the syedna in this particular instance that you are getting so upset??

i merely warned boom and apprised him of what his actions would interpret in a western society. is that something you and abdes cannot tolerate?

age and position has got nothing to do with that comment, one's proclivities are immaterial to them. the same abdes rail against progressives in the most depraved terms in language that would make even a street urchin blush.

as for mn,

i have already told you, your comments, opinions and views do not matter to me. you are an idiot and will remain so. whether you contribute anything or not, is of no susbtance and value. please do not bring up sentimental claptrap of respect et al.

when a slave like you has no self-respect, does it matter what respect he gives others?

[Conscíous]

Hey humanbeing,
To tell you the truth, I got a little lost reading your post.. I got the part about my posts are provocative and I won't deny it..Not everyone is gifted like you, plus I have to translate from the language I think in, and translate that into english, you see And I'm not good at sugarcoating .. And can you please explain the rest of your post, so that I don't misunderstand and maybe reply you back..

[Conscíous]

Yo Mustafa,,,
I've raised the issue about Yemen in this thread and also started a thread " do you dare to be honest" where no one has answered Not everyone or every thread is to ridicule you people, every time.. I don't know who said that " You have missed out the bigger picture" and I really don't want to get into that.. I have enough in my hands for now and I've got to stop this side tracking/ hijacking my thread..

I'm only interested in this thread is Do you believe our Dai (tus) is omniscient??

[Conscíous]

Shawl from Syedna Saheb

I am a Hindu by birth and belief. I can also state that the person singularly responsible for the turning point in my spiritual and psychic existence has been Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin Saheb. And I have met him for no more than four minutes in my life. Amazed?

Read my story: I had been commissioned by the Dahod jamaat to provide it with a large chandelier (8 ft diameter, 8 ft height) for its newly built masjid in 2001. When the masjid was inaugurated by Syedna saheb, I flew down with my wife Sangeeta to be present. I was fortunate enough to be allocated a brief audience; I went into Syedna saheb’s presence with a crystal gift. What struck me was that instead of merely touching each of the gifts that he would receive before they were collected by a devotee standing nearby, he received our gift with two hands and held it before passing it on for safekeeping. In turn, Syedna saheb most graciously presented us with a shawl, which we recognised was his way of reciprocating the respect we had shown. We spoke for about four minutes during which time he asked us about our work and our shop in Delhi.

I presented a gift. He presented a gift. Exchanged pleasantries. End of matter?

Not quite. I referred this exchange and experience to my longstanding guide and philosopher. He remarked that if a personage like Syedna saheb had given me a shawl then there was a deeper meaning behind it. It cannot be an ordinary shawl, he said. Drape the shawl and meditate on auspicious nights, he added.

Over the next few weeks, we encountered a family mishap. My 75-year-old father was struck with a paralytic stroke. One side of his body was completely affected. When something like this happens at that age, there is little hope. That is when I remembered the shawl. I put it to an immediate test; I wore it at the appointed hour, sat in meditation and prayed. Within a week, my father was recovered. Fully.

In the following months, more experiences transpired. I started getting visions of what would transpire to people. If I was speaking to a lady, I would inexplicably get a feeling that there was something wrong with her married life; besides, the solution would emerge unprompted. If I was speaking to a long-lost cousin in Penang, I could ‘see’ her house with clarity, the problems she was facing and be able to suggest solutions. They would begin to wonder….how does an ordinary chandelier maker know all this about us?

And then there is the influence that the shawl has had on my professional well-being. Within a short while of being presented the shawl, my company completed an unprecedented order of having supplied 52 (coincidence!) chandeliers to Uday Vilas in Udaipur (now rated as possibly the finest hotel in the world). Over the years, our reputation as one of India’s finest chandelier craftsmen was convincingly established.

More than anything, there has been a remarkable change in our positioning and confidence. It is like the shawl has emerged as a ‘kavach’ – nobody can do us any harm.

Instead of inspiring smugness, the shawl has inspired responsibility. Instead of providing answers, the shawl has generated questions: Who am I? What is my connection with the Syedna saheb? Who was I in my previous birth? How am I connected to the Dawoodi Bohras? Why is there an increasing incidence of Bohras in my life?

And I can state with conviction that my spiritual and material rebirth in the last few years started with the shawl that I received from the Syedna saheb in 2002.

A number of people may see it as just another piece of cloth. And a few may see it differently. And therein lies the story.


http://bohranet.com/part_5%3A_shawl_from_syedna_saheb

[SBM]

^
Did he convert to DB yet or still practicing Hinduism?

[Conscíous]

When someone starts questioning, who he was in his previous birth can doubtfully believe in the oneness of Almighty Allah (swt) ..
This man has always been a dawoodi hindu bohra but wasn't aware of it.. but all thanks to the magic shawl, he found his lost God again

[Al Zulfiqar]

for every 1 mojiza posted about syedna, we can post 1000 of the sai baba and over 10,000 of nirmal baba, who appears every morning on sony tv at 9 am in the programme 'nirmal baba's third eye'...

we can also throw in a few lakh mojizas of shirdi's sai baba and of bhagwan venkatesh at tiruvananthapuram.
hey, now that i am on a roll, what about the bhagwan at siddhivinyak mandir in mumbai or the miracles of taking a dip in the holy pond at golden temple in amritsar? lest i forget, we must include mojizas of haji ali and haji malang, ajmer sharif's khwaja gariban nawaz, hazrat nizamuddin chisti, ... hang on, now where have we reached with the grand total?

heck, i forgot mother teresa, the grotto at lourdes, the late pope john paul... my head is spinning. can someone please get me some phukelu paani?