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pheonix wrote: And what the heck is male FGM Idiot

Open your amil's izaar and youll know what it is as I doubt whether you have undergone the same. BTW your idiotic statement doesnt make any sense as it does not specify as to what exactly is your problem and as to what message do you want to convey.

MM Bukhari wrote:

stopfgm wrote:MM Bukhari you are a brainwashed animal. Think about this, if Allah gave you ears, hands or legs he gave them all for a reason right? Then why would he tell you to cut them off? This is the same as FGM, if you have read the Quran tell me one place in the Quran that it is written to do circumcision of a female?
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according to ur logic

why did Allah asked Ibrahim to do male circumcision?

Even I want to know why FGM( female genital mutilation) or MGM (male genital mutilation) is necessary when Allah has created Human beings as a perfect creature. Also |I wonder if Australia's law disagrees with MGM (khatna of baby boy) , do they consider this also as child sexual abuse? If they don't allow FGM then they should have objection to MGM too.

ghulam muhammed wrote:

pheonix wrote: And what the heck is male FGM Idiot

Open your amil's izaar and youll know what it is as I doubt whether you have undergone the same. BTW your idiotic statement doesnt make any sense as it does not specify as to what exactly is your problem and as to what message do you want to convey.

Male FGM(female genital mutilation). So how can a male undergo the cutting of the clitoris. Maybe u did that.
This proves that you are an idiot and just run your mouth over each and every topic of which you have no idea about.
Anybody who pays any heed to this idiot's post is an idiot himself.

4 more people charged

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/four-women-ch ... 266g7.html

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/f ... 6477458507

pheonix wrote:

ghulam muhammed wrote: Open your amil's izaar and youll know what it is as I doubt whether you have undergone the same. BTW your idiotic statement doesnt make any sense as it does not specify as to what exactly is your problem and as to what message do you want to convey.

Male FGM(female genital mutilation). So how can a male undergo the cutting of the clitoris. Maybe u did that.
This proves that you are an idiot and just run your mouth over each and every topic of which you have no idea about.
Anybody who pays any heed to this idiot's post is an idiot himself.

Since you are into the Kothar. Could you tell us if Nafisa Ali was made to undergo FGM before her marriage to Mazun Saahab. Or did the Jewish wife of the Late Mukasir had to undergo the procedure as well ?

We all know that the liason of MAzun and Nafis did not last long. But was she made physically pure for H.H the Mzaun Saab ?

Please do keep updating us, as i have a feeling more people will get arrested soon.

CRIMES ACT 1900 - SECT 45

Prohibition of female genital mutilation
45 Prohibition of female genital mutilation

(1) A person who:
(a) excises, infibulates or otherwise mutilates the whole or any part of the labia majora or labia minora or clitoris of another person, or
(b) aids, abets, counsels or procures a person to perform any of those acts on another person,
is liable to imprisonment for 7 years.
(2) An offence is committed against this section even if one or more of the acts constituting the offence occurred outside New South Wales if the person mutilated by or because of the acts is ordinarily resident in the State.
(3) It is not an offence against this section to perform a surgical operation if that operation:
(a) is necessary for the health of the person on whom it is performed and is performed by a medical practitioner, or
(b) is performed on a person in labour or who has just given birth, and for medical purposes connected with that labour or birth, by a medical practitioner or authorised professional, or
(c) is a sexual reassignment procedure and is performed by a medical practitioner.
(4) In determining whether an operation is necessary for the health of a person only matters relevant to the medical welfare of the person are to be taken into account.
(5) It is not a defence to a charge under this section that the person mutilated by or because of the acts alleged to have been committed consented to the acts.
(6) This section applies only to acts occurring after the commencement of the section.
(7) In this section:
"authorised professional" means:
(a) a registered midwife, or
(b) a midwifery student, or
(c) in relation to an operation performed in a place outside Australia-a person authorised to practise midwifery by a body established under the law of that place having functions similar to the functions of the Nursing and Midwifery Board of Australia, or
(d) a medical student.
"medical practitioner", in relation to an operation performed in a place outside Australia, includes a person authorised to practise medicine by a body established under the law of that place having functions similar to the Medical Board of Australia.
"medical student" means:
(a) a person registered as a student in the medical profession under the Health Practitioner Regulation National Law, or
(b) in relation to an operation performed in a place outside Australia-a person undergoing a course of training with a view to being authorised to be a medical practitioner in that place.
"midwifery student" means:
(a) a person registered as a student in the nursing and midwifery profession under the Health Practitioner Regulation National Law, or
(b) in relation to an operation performed in a place outside Australia-a person undergoing a course of training with a view to being authorised to be a midwife practitioner in that place.

Www.sydneyjamaat.com

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pheonix wrote: Anybody who pays any heed to this idiot's post is an idiot himself.

Thanks for proving that you are BIGGEST IDIOT on this forum as you regularly pay heed to my posts.

. .News
Four more women arrested over female genital mutilation in NSW by: JANET FIFE-YEOMANS From: The Daily Telegraph September 19, 2012 4:26PM
0FOUR more women have today been arrested and charged in relation to the female genital mutilation of two young girls in NSW.
Detectives with the State Crime Command’s Sex Crimes Squad have been continuing investigations since charging a Sydney sheik, a retired nurse and the parents of the two sisters.

Detectives with Strike Force Longfield said today that they had been working closely with NSW Health and the Department of Family and Community Services.

Earlier today two women were arrested in Sydney and two women in the Wollongong area. They were each charged with prohibition of female genital mutilation.

Police will allege the four women, aged 39, 68, 73 and 77, were each present at one or both of the procedures, also known as female circumcision, performed on the two sisters when they were aged six and seven.



The women have been granted bail to face Parramatta Local Court on Wednesday 7 November 2012.

Investigations by Strike Force Longfield are ongoing, and police continue to appeal for anyone with information about female genital mutilation to come forward.

The girls remain in the care of their parents.

http://podcasts.mrn.com.au.s3.amazonaws ... lation.mp3

Listen to the audio from a popular shock jock and Minister.

http://bigpondnews.com/articles/Nationa ... 01889.html

Br OZ

I hope you have provided Kothar's insistence that FGM is fird for ODBs to media and authorities. Copies of Badrijanab's posts on FGM will add some juice.
It is sad that father of girls is GP and mother is Phrmo.

I heard radio, I am sad that other indo-pak Australiain are included in these subject.
Wasalaam

Muslim First wrote:Br OZ

I hope you have provided Kothar's insistence that FGM is fird for ODBs to media and authorities. Copies of Badrijanab's posts on FGM will add some juice.
It is sad that father of girls is GP and mother is Phrmo.

I heard radio, I am sad that other indo-pak Australian are included in these subject.
Wasalaam

Indian and Pakistani migrants are very upset that Bohras have created this fiasco. Australia and many western countries are nervous with multiculturalism and this is another reason for them to worry about.

This issue is branding Bohras as liars, deceitful, abusive, uncivilised, barbaric, unIslamic, law breakers, anti-social, seclusive, unhelpful to authorities.

I have heard from a migration lawyer that if more and more people are charged the countries like Canada and Australia will weigh the country as a higher crime risk and be a detrimental to how the migration process is evaluated. You all know that it is already very difficult for Nigerians to obtain visas !

More on FGM in Australia

This call is on kothar and Mufadal do something now to stop this or the handcuffs are coming for you!

Watch this


http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/news/730/vi ... 0_512k.mp4

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ocEnIFX_u7A
YouTube to keep this a history of our abuses

Note the masjid in the early piece is the Sydney dawoodi bohra masjid

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/sheikh-and-nu ... 290ak.html

The case continues!

The brand dawoodi is being trashed around the australian media and yet no announcement from Surat to guide the followers. The stubbornness to defend the practice rather than acknowledgeing this is unnecessary practise when it is a crime , accepting a mistake and banning this practise , this saga will permenantly damage the community reputation for a long long time.

Notice there are 3 lawyers defending the accused , money is draining, wonder who is paying for this ? I hope not the local jamaat funds are being drained.

I think it is high time the intellectuals reading this website take matters in their own hands and get involved to do what it takes to protect the community from further damage. If there are any criminal activity ties like aqiqa, wajebat smuggling, etc they are stopped.

If bohras want to live in Australia they must follow the law and values, if they do not like it they can go back where they came from and other migrants who want to adapt the values of the land can take up the visa quota.

I was raeding this link and it seems it is referring to this website kudos PDB

See the magistrate is referring to this forum!

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/muslims-divid ... 290w6.html

article is in hindi, talks about UN taking notice of FGM

http://navbharattimes.indiatimes.com/vo ... 383307.cms

Now the prime minister's office is involved and the heat is to be turned up on this practise

Jail sentence is being reviewed can go to maximum 20 years

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-na ... 2b81v.html

And still every often a Bohra girls somewhere in this world is being abused and undergoing the procedure. Shame !

ozmujaheed wrote: Now the prime minister's office is involved and the heat is to be turned up on this practise

Jail sentence is being reviewed can go to maximum 20 years

Let us deport badrijanab to Australia.

ghulam muhammed wrote:

ozmujaheed wrote: Now the prime minister's office is involved and the heat is to be turned up on this practise

Jail sentence is being reviewed can go to maximum 20 years

Let us deport badrijanab to Australia.

make it a package, with one badrijanab, get one adam free!!

We need some official visit..why limit it to 2 ..a few zadas will be good...airport welcoming party will be organised the police will give them proper escort, real siren and garlands/cuffs. Give key to the holding cell rather than

20years is along time so they will need company

Zaifats can be arranged through the glass window and telephone.

The smart zada can use their expertise to debate and win the argument so the parliament can be brainwashed to honor our respect our great brand .

I received information that the events in Australia has been suppressed. It seems only few people outside Australia.a know about the issue. The more people know about it the sooner it can be effective.

no such thing. they will never come in your time of need. They only come when you have moolah. Look what happened in Karachi. There was a bomb blast and bohris were dead and injured while muffy was in Karachi. The next day he flew to columbo with his goondas. Ceylon is the only country where desi's can get visas on the spot at the airport. That is why he chose colombo to weasel out in the nick of time.

I think ozm is on the money and doing a good job , he is daring them ! I read

http://aifs.govspace.gov.au/2012/12/12/ ... ation-fgm/

http://www.health.gov.au/internet/minis ... -tp111.htm

If Australian Bohris are intelligent they should side with the authorities and islamic moderate community and support them in fighting this evil unislamic practise .

The federal and state government are combining forces to go after the perpetrators that changes the game completely for kothar ....that is a historical first in the resistant movement ...the multi billion dollar ancient tyrant establishment vs a trillion dollar new pacific power. It is reality vs miracle. Will kothar fight or run ! Why pick a fight that you cannot win !

In comparison it is like the US military ie Australian government forces against the Afghan Taliban ie the Bohra Jamaat. I think the Bohras are going to get a good hiding.

All this effort will be wasted if PdB do not replicate the issue in Europe and North America ! Az, GM do something before the storm dies down! Marshal your forces and open new fronts !

ozmujaheed wrote:Now the prime minister's office is involved and the heat is to be turned up on this practise

Jail sentence is being reviewed can go to maximum 20 years

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-na ... 2b81v.html

And still every often a Bohra girls somewhere in this world is being abused and undergoing the procedure. Shame !

so what next do u plan to ban from australia? beard and hijab ?

KhalifatulRahman wrote:

ozmujaheed wrote:Now the prime minister's office is involved and the heat is to be turned up on this practise

Jail sentence is being reviewed can go to maximum 20 years

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-na ... 2b81v.html

And still every often a Bohra girls somewhere in this world is being abused and undergoing the procedure. Shame !

so what next do u plan to ban from australia? beard and hijab ?

next could be semi literate loud mouths who talk first and think later claiming to be prophet of peace

ozmujaheed wrote:

KhalifatulRahman wrote: so what next do u plan to ban from australia? beard and hijab ?

next could be semi literate loud mouths who talk first and think later claiming to be prophet of peace

@Mr.Ozmujaheed
Next is the Akika ritual, got this news from a reliable source that in Sydney the police are spying on the community and people are going to Melbourne to do the Akika, as the ritual of applying the blood of the zabihat goat on the babies forehead and shaving off the hair of the baby is been considered as a child abuse by Australia police. Can you confirm this news?

Bori85 please give some credit to the Police they have better ways of managing their time with something more important than aqiqa..Aqiqa is not child abuse...shaving the head does no permanently damage the child's body.

Yes what is wrong is to break the law to slaughter a goat in conditions that are unacceptable as set by local authorities . There would be fines not jail sentences . Issues would be raised by animal welfare or local councils .

People might be scared and taking precautions to avoid further arrests or media outburst while the current criminal case is ongoing.