Please stop posting and talking

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humanbeing
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Re: Please stop posting and talking

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Unread post by humanbeing » Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:34 am

@ Kothari Agents
After the Pakistani Incidents of Killing of Bohras, is there any official or internal message conveyed by Mufaddal Bhaisaab to the bereaved family or to the community at large ?

Please share some words, I may have missed any ?

Al Zulfiqar
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Re: Please stop posting and talking

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:41 pm

biradar,

my intention was not to compare the kotharis to the taleban in terms of mass violence and physical cruelty. my point of reference is "intolerance", as mentioned by phoenix.

the bohra leadership, in my opinion, express the worst form of intolerance and racism against all other muslims. on the surface, when doing business or in social settings, they are all for showing oh-so-amiable solidarity and 'universal brotherhood' tactics, but in private, ask a bohra, any average bohra, what they think about sunni's, other shia's etc and see their response. the common refrain will be "ey to badha gumraah chhe, apnej chhe je sachha rasta par chhe, apna dai haq na saheb chhe, hame eklaj jannat jaysoo". what is that except extreme prejudice and intolerance based on indoctrination?

and those same amils and mullahs or zaadas who superficially appear all mild and reasonable, confront them with an individual reformist or a small group of reformists and then see their reaction. they will exhort the abde mobs to fall upon them and beat them senseless, with whatever at hand! cries of 'dai na dushmano', and 'munafiqs' will rent the air and that same mob of gentle bohras will turn into murderous hordes. its the power of their majority compared to the miniscule number of reformists that encourages and emboldens them to become violent thugs.

if the bohras had the numbers, do you think they would not physically retaliate against the taleban? its one thing to say that bohras are generally mild, gentle and pragmatic, but when in a sizeable mob, i have personally seen the violence, destruction and physical injuries they have caused to anyone who dared to stand up to and challenge their leader's diktats. see how they are behaving in udaipur, where they have set up armed militias like the shabab to inflict deadly violence against the outnumbered reformists.

i, for one, do not buy this theory of bohras being nice people anymore. yes, as individuals, we are hospitable, kind, loving and helpful, but as a mob and when instigated by the kothari crooks, those same bohras become murderous goondas on a rampage. bohras who leak in their hizaars when threatened by the taleban and anti-shia jaahils and rush here to ask for help, all of a sudden become man-eating lions when dealing with the small minority of progressives?

where is the sense of balance and justice? where is the tolerance?

Bori85
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Re: Please stop posting and talking

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Unread post by Bori85 » Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:24 pm

humanbeing wrote:@ Kothari Agents
After the Pakistani Incidents of Killing of Bohras, is there any official or internal message conveyed by Mufaddal Bhaisaab to the bereaved family or to the community at large ?

Please share some words, I may have missed any ?
@humanbeing from Kothar

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Re: Please stop posting and talking

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:41 pm

Talibans - They brainwash their subjects in Madrassas.
Kothar - They brainwash their subjects in Jamea and sabaks.

Talibans - Strict dress code, men without beard and women without burka are whipped and punished publicly.
Kothar - Strict dress code, men without beard and women without rida are denied their membership and have to forego various social gatherings, nikahs not performed, obstacles during burial of their near and dear ones.

Talibans - They produce suicide bombers with their brainwashing tactics.
Kothar - They produce slaves who dont demand their fundamental and democratic rights.

Talibans - Their followers proudly call themselves Mujahids.
Kothar - Their followers proudly call themselves Abdes (Slaves).

Talibans - They allegedly fund their organisations by arms trade, narcotics and extortion.
Kothar - They fund their cult by extorting moneis thru forced extortion and various unislamic taxes.

Talibans - They mislead muslims by falsely propagating a violent version of Islam.
Kothar - They mislead their followers by falsely propagating a greedy version of Islam.

Talibans - Their thrust is on prayers, fast, haj.
Kothar - Their thrust is on wajebat, mola and ONLY More-La.

Talibans - They market videos of their slain followers in order to attract other muslims.
Kothar - They market the battle of karbala in order to rake in more moolah during Mohurrum vayez.

Talibans - They attack anti muslim personals.
Kothar - They embrace and fund anti-muslim personals e.g.Modi, Thackerey, Advani etc etc.

Talibans - They operate from hilly terrains and tora borah.
Kothar - They operate from palaces like saifee mahal, khandala bungalows and other exotic european locales.

Talibans - There are media reports of some foreigners getting converted to islam during their captivity.
Kothar - There are ZERO conversions.

Talibans - They are ruthless killers who dont spare even women and shoot them in head in public grounds.
Kothar - They are ruthless animals who dont spare even women and dig their bodies from the grave and throw it on public footpaths.

Talibans - They cause sectarian strifes.
Kothar - They cause sectarian strifes.

Talibans - Their leader Osama Bin Laden had 4 wives.
Kothar - Their leader Taher Saifuddin saheb also had 4 wives.

Talibans - They are WITH majority of ummah who is against George Bush for his atrocities in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Kothar - They are AGAINST majority of ummah who are against Modi for his role in mass genocide in gujarat.

Talibans - Their leaders fight alongwith their followers.
Kothar - Their leader runs away leaving his followers in a lurch during a fight. (52nd dai running away in police van during bohra/sunni riots in mohurrum).

Talibans - They claim to be the only sect which is guaranteed paradise.
Kothar - They also claim to be the only sect which is guranteed paradise, they further their claim by way of a recomendation letter from their leader (ruku chithi).

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