palying with words

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JC
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Re: palying with words

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Unread post by JC » Fri Sep 04, 2009 6:22 pm

Qardan Hassana is the starting point of establishing a Bohra Bank exclusively run by so-called Shahzadas. This is another far sighted scheme to CONTROL bohra wealth.

Imagine, ALL the bohras depositing all their SAVINGS into a bohra bank ......... in the name of Dai. It is a scam like cooperative socities who ran away with people's saving.

A day will soon come, when Kothar will ask bohras not to have any relations with any bank and do business thru their nominee/s. It is far fetched, but this will eventually come.

Bohraism is becoming a State without borders. So bohras will always have dual nationality, atleast, paying taxes to atleast TWO govenments. Wajebaat are the Taxes we pay to this government, and what this govt gives us in return - MAULA NEE DUA .............

Even Zardari is better............ :lol:

S. Insaf
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Re: palying with words

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Unread post by S. Insaf » Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:53 am

Brother Aqa-Maula had asked on Auguist 26 some questions which had not come to my notice:-
Questions for Mr. Insaaf

Are there any Qardan - Hasanah schemes run by progressive jamaats??? If by any chance yes, than:-
No. There is no Qardan - Hasanah scheme in reformist Jamats. Any scheme for entire community involving huge amount of money can be started and run by those who have ample material resources, which our Sayedna Saheb’s establishment has and which the reformist Jamats do not have as they do not extract money from the community.
Reformists Bohras have established educational and medical trust, schools, orphanages, homes for aged etc. Whatever amount their Jamats receive by way of the voluntary donations they spend it on giving school and college fees, paying of debts of poor people, Vazifas to Mullas and Ulemas whom Kothar has neglected.
In times of natural calamity, communal riots etc, reformist Bohras collect funds by appeal and their volunteers personally go to the sufferers and help them to the best of their capacities. They take care to spend the last penny of the fund thus collected.
The Qardan - Hasanah scheme was started by the Sayedna Burhanuddin Saheb’s establishment due to the pressure of the reformist Bohras who were constantly exposing him that he forcibly collects more than Rs. 20 Crores per year from the community and does nothing for them.
What are the terms and conditions???
Qardan means loan and Hasna means mercy or sympathy. Therefore Qardan – Hasanah is something given out of sympathy. So how can there be any term and condition especially for Sayedna Saheb who claims to be “Merciful” and “a Humane at Heart” and whom community has given much more than his needs?
What is the Max amount available???

The amount is always decided on the requirement of the concerned person and the capacity of giver.
How it is secured???
Qardan – Hasanah is different than Zakat. Zakat is given to poor and needy for their survival. Qardan – Hasanah is given to the person or persons to enhance his/her business or to relive him from some debt or for immediate need of repair or buy a house.
Oh sorry.....Allah is the guarantor and he stands for everyone – I m sure u must be filing suits against Allah as he is the guarantor.
Allah is the only guarantor for all, even for a prophet’s life and security; it is a sin to ridicule Allah in blind faith of a mortal being.
What if people default in repayments???.....
Such thoughts come only in a materialistic exploitative mind having no sympathy for other’s sufferings.

feelgud
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Re: palying with words

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Unread post by feelgud » Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:45 am

It means a loan that is given to a person with the condition that the receiver will pay back if Allah gives him the ability to repay. This is Hasan ( beautiful ) because it relieves the receiver of the loan and is a means of sacrifice from the part of the lender.

SBM
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Re: palying with words

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Unread post by SBM » Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:07 pm

Mutmaeen-Aqa Moula Zombie-Aziz aka Gulpie
SO WHERE IS THE QARD-E-HASAH SCHEME, HOW COME THIS PERSON DID NOT QUALIFY FOR UPLIFTMENT SCHEME. Oh I forgot he could not come up with Najwa or Gold as collateral.


From Malumaat Yahoo Group
Dear all
Below is name of a mumin mukhlis bhai known to us and staying in Mazagoan,
Mumbai. He requires Rs. 2/- lacs for his business upliftment. He has a shop in
Chor Bazar but cannot come up in life because of lack of working capital. Any
mumin who wish to help this mumin by investing with him or helping by any other
means or by giving Qardan Hasanah or Inayat, please let us know.
Below name is changed to protect identity. Once any one keen to participate then
we can give details of person one is to one.
NAME : - Mansoor Poonawala
ADDRESS :- 64,..... MAZAGAON, MUMBAI – 400 010
MOBILE : -
MEMBERS IN FAMILY : - 5, MOTHER, WIFE & 3 SONS
SONS :- 23, MBA
18, WILSON COLLEGE
13, ST. MARY (S.S.C)
REQUIREMENT :- SHOP AT CHOR BAZAAR
BUSINESS :- CUTTING TOOLS
CAPITAL :- 150,000/- now required 2/- lacs.
Please do revert to us asap.
Salaams
Husain