the dai disobeys allah ??

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anajmi
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Re: the dai disobeys allah ??

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Unread post by anajmi » Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:54 am

I browsed through the link http://www.answering-ansar.org/answers/ ... /chap1.php and I have to tell you, it is going to take a lot of effort to argue with it point by point. One comment I would like to make though is that, the Shia curse even the wife of the prophet (saw) about whose marriage there is no doubt and for whom even the Quran demands respects, then what makes me think that they wouldn't do the same to the husband of the daughter of Hazrat Ali?

The link has a lot of material posted. However, there is no evidence that this marriage never happened. What is there is a lot of conjecture. For eg. it says that Hazrat Umar couldn't marry Umm Kulthum because it is haraam to even look at the feet of a Sayyida woman.

Kaka Akela
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Re: the dai disobeys allah ??

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Unread post by Kaka Akela » Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:56 pm

Abdes are all lying when they say their sajda to Dai is Taqbeel ul Ard or for ta'zeem and Takreem. Because when Arzi to Syedna is written, right on top after his name and titles etc and before the Arzi they write," Alf Sajdaat il Ubudiyah". Now can any abde tell me what does that mean? My Arabic is not that great but I know the meaning of word Ubudiya is," prayer or ibadat". Also tell me why "Alf"? which means 1000, isn't one sajda enough?
One of the definitions of Imaan is to give some one respect according to his rutba, a Mulla, a shaikh, an Aaalim according to his knowledge etc. etc no qhuloo(less) or no Ghuloo (excess) is allowed, then why when speeches are made or in other write-ups they say," Hazrat Imamiyah" for a Dai who is not an Imam? isn't that Ghuloo? Why doesn't he stop the people comitting such Ghuloo? Specially when he claims that he knows that Imam is alive and well and he gets signals from him. Or he knows that Imam's existence is a farce and myth created so Dai doesn't have to take the blame for wrong decisions. the mind and iman of a thinking man is blown to pieces with the doublespeak that goes on in our religion.

ghulam muhammed
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Re: the dai disobeys allah ??

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:57 pm

Welcome back Kaka Akela, its a long time since you have been away.