Shahzada Huzaifa bhai saheb - Rest in Peace

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Re: Shahzada Huzaifa bhai saheb - Rest in Peace

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:42 pm

Murtuza's question :--------
MurtazaVds wrote:Tame bhooli gaya aa line “SAJDA TUJHE WAJIB HAI TU MASJID- E - AZAM HAI” aa line is for Dai – E – Zaman and to all from 1st to 52nd
Murtuza's Answer to the above question in his own words :----------
MurtazaVds wrote:Tamara logo ma ane yazid, layeen, Awal, Saani, Salis, Abubakar (KHUDA NI LANAT ) mai kai farak nota

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Unread post by Smart » Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:47 am

Searchforhaq wrote:My issue was with what JC had posted "One down, how many more to go ? " which I found disrespectful and in poor taste. It does not matter whether you are orthodox, progressive, muslim, non-muslim or even atheist. It is humanity which teaches us to show compassion to fellow human beings. The Subject of this thread is Rest In Peace bear that in mind.
You come here and preach humanity. Good.

Why don't you do the same to the Shahzaadas and the aamils who will let dead bodies lie around for days, because the relatives have not paid up. Why is humanity not important when the ustads were spat upon under the instigation of the dai himself. Why no talk about humanity to Modi, instead of shawls and Crores of rupees.

Please cut the hypocrisy

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Re: Shahzada Huzaifa bhai saheb - Rest in Peace

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Unread post by humanbeing » Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:52 am

Hi Smart
The list will be long, lessons are many to be taught on humanity to these Kotharies.

Respect for the dead and affected kin. This Mullas don’t forget their salaams on funerals also. Some representative from the family will have to make sure all pending dues of the dead are duly paid. If that person’s account is clear then ok, if not relative is duly harassed even in those sad times, when person is emotionally weak.

If a person is coaxed during marriage or other celebrations, one can shell out monies to shut this guys up, but death of a person is rather an emotional moment to block any ceremony and demand clearance.

Bohra families fear wrath of Kothar on issue of death than command of Allah on death. Bohra fear that if they are not buried in bohra cemetery with all due ceremonies, they will miss the flight to heaven.

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Unread post by fearAllah » Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:25 am

MurtazaVds wrote:dnt use ny wrong words against DAWAT and HUZURALA TUS
A Muslim would really say "dnt use ny wrong words against ISLAM and ALLAH SWT
MurtazaVds wrote:Tame bhooli gaya aa line “SAJDA TUJHE WAJIB HAI TU MASJID- E - AZAM HAI” aa line is for Dai – E – Zaman and to all from 1st to 52nd
Thanks God you dont believe the 53rd one :D

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:35 pm

humanbeing wrote:This Mullas don’t forget their salaams on funerals also
The zaadas and zaadis outbeat their employees (mullas) when it comes to funeral. Recently a zaadi was invited for the tijiya jaman of a fanatic abde and guess what.................. the zaadi was made to sit on a chair covered with white towel and a full fledged 'wadhavni rasam' was carried out, complete with sweets and chocolates wrapped in a crystal bowl was 'wadhavofied' and the same was presented to her alongwith the usual fat envelope with cash. She was brought to the venue in the deceaseds son's car and was dropped back after she completed her 'business' inspite of the fact that she had a fleet of cars at her disposal...................... Slave mentality at its best !!!!!

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Unread post by like_minded » Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:47 am

A Muslim would really say "dnt use ny wrong words against ISLAM and ALLAH SWT

The only difference between you and the abdes is that you would strike back at the one who uses wrong word against ISLAM and ALLAH and abdes would do the same if someone says wrong about their dai.... You see.... You belong to the same category... Intolerance at its best... Not only you.. I would say majority muslims are intolerant!! It is mighty easy to provoke muslims, one word against their religion, and there they go...........

It was evident recently in the fiasco that happened in Jaipur involving Salman Rushdie... It was Shameful to say the least!

My argument is... If your faith and so-called beliefs in your religion and God is strong and unshakable, Good! Keep it that way... nobody has a problem... why should it attract violence and all other kinds of nonsense if attacked?

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Unread post by humanbeing » Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:10 am

the zaadi was made to sit on a chair covered with white towel and a full fledged 'wadhavni rasam' was carried out, complete with sweets and chocolates wrapped in a crystal bowl was 'wadhavofied' and the same was presented to her alongwith the usual fat envelope with cash. She was brought to the venue in the deceaseds son's car and was dropped back after she completed her 'business' inspite of the fact that she had a fleet of cars at her disposal...................... Slave mentality at its best !!!!!
I m not surprised, be it funeral or anything, this so called royal pest want to be treated with extreme extraordinary pampering to outshine from others. They don’t command respect, they demand it greedily.

A sheikh would actually advise the host how to handle this royal pests before hand, so that there is no embarrassment in handling this delicate darlings. This sheikhs take pride in such khidmat.

When my uncle expired after suffering from mouth cancer, my father arranged the post death ceremonies. One sheikh advises my father how much cash has to be put in the envelope. The amount quoted was high, my father had to negotiate to a reasonable amount. Such are the cheapskates from jamat.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:44 pm

mn,

You can very well understand that for obvious reasons I cannot disclose the identity of that idiotic family, especially on an open forum which is monitored by kothar and the culprit is one amongst them. For your satisfaction you can check with the real diehard abdes who regularly invite the 'fursat ma betha' zaadis and see for yourself the way these parasites are pampered even on tijiya and warsi jamans. The zaadas/zaadis never come in their own cars and make it a point that the host sends one for them, this is all a part of the larger psychological games played by kothar 24x7 to keep the abdes under their thumb.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:16 pm

What does an ageing and ailing father do after he witnesses the sudden death of his son ? In all fairness he prefers to confine himself within the four walls of his house as the 'gham-e-aulad' is too severe to die down soon, especially for the next 40 days. But here we have a scenario wherein the grief stricken father is made to parade around dongaon and then pune, (the next venue is being planned) so that the cash register doesnt stop ringing. Why cant the so called diehard abdes who profess undying love for their master never protest even at this juncture and stop the greedy zaadas from exploiting the dai for their lust for money ?

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:17 pm

to come back to the original subject of this thread - Zaada Hoze' RIP:

i for one have no qualms in confidently requesting Allah not to let this parasite (sorry, i am violating the dearly held belief that one should not speak ill of the dead) rest in peace.

while in his qabr, or wherever he is being held in custody - pending further questioning, he should experience the suffering, pain, humiliation and exploitation which an ordinary abde bohra undergoes during his lifetime with the hired functionaries of the kothar and at the hands of the dai's sons and his entire establishment.

agar allah ke ghar mein der hai, lekin andher nahi hai, to let this arrogant pipsqueak son of the syedna NOT REST IN PEACE!

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:42 pm

Kothar is getting tech savy, no need to give 'taziyat' in person, one can just register himself :-

Mumineen may email taaziyat messages to taaziyatarz@alvazarat.org

http://akhbar.mumineen.org/2012/01/16/p ... din-saheb/

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Unread post by JC » Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:49 pm

May he NOT rest in peace ........ Ameen

And may all his kothari goons colleagues NOT rest in peace in this life and lifehereafter (if any).

Question - Was Rukku Chitti place in his grave?? I may be naive in asking this as one should remember and understand Munkir and Nakir would have immediately recognize Hoze and gave him First Class Ticket to a Mahal in Janat..!!!

Again, will any Rukku Chitti placed in any of the graves of sh**zadas/zadis and dais?? In abde graves Dai will come, hold their hand and take them to Janat (LoL..) but WHO will hold hand of Zadas/Zadis and Dai to take them to Janat?? Again I am being naive, I believe it will be Imam or may be Panjatan doing this HONOUR, that 'Awoo Awoo Amara Shaan Na Dai Awoo, Padharo, and Chumufy his Payshanee..!!! And hey what is poor God during all this tamasha?? :roll:

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Unread post by like_minded » Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:19 am

mustafanalwalla wrote:
ghulam muhammed wrote:mn,

You can very well understand that for obvious reasons I cannot disclose the identity of that idiotic family, especially on an open forum which is monitored by kothar and the culprit is one amongst them. For your satisfaction you can check with the real diehard abdes who regularly invite the 'fursat ma betha' zaadis and see for yourself the way these parasites are pampered even on tijiya and warsi jamans. The zaadas/zaadis never come in their own cars and make it a point that the host sends one for them, this is all a part of the larger psychological games played by kothar 24x7 to keep the abdes under their thumb.

Yeah, i can understand.

Too bad, i really wanted to whack these stupid family members and slap them silly and hope that atleast that brings them to their senses.

I have to say though, people on my mum's side of the family are pretty hard-core believers as far as our Dai goes, but i have never seen them invite anyone from Dai's family, especially for a funeral.

That means that this particular family is either completely sick in the head, or didnt really care for the dead and did this more for PR...

Mustafa bhai

Why are you cursing them, when there is no much difference between you and them?

Only the level of fanaticism varies here.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:02 pm

In order to save themselves from the huge embarassment caused by muffy's fauxpass of 'hoze mojiza', the dubai jamat has circulated an sms saying that the said bayan is not true and that bohras should avoid getting carried away by rumours. It seems that this website is being religously monitored by kothari goons and has created the much needed impact.

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:58 pm

mustafanalwalla wrote:Actually, i dont think curses would work on them the way a swift kick would. Laaton ke bhoot baaton se nahin maante.... I am incredibly saddened by the behaviour of that family
Bro.mn,

I pray to Allah (swt) that may you be incredibly saddened by the OVERALL behaviour of abdes and thereby see the radiance of the true Islam as preached by Prophet (s.a.w.).

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:40 pm

Tv9 Gujarat - One Dies and 21 Injured during Funeral of Dawoodi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRPWJIErbRA