Dawoodi Bohra Forum

Qadir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:34 am

momeenbhai wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:00 am Qadir cant be wrong he learnt in sabaq

Thank God I am not the one giving sabaq right?

most thing you learn in sabaq is wrong, but you dont know it yet .....

Ek taraf DMBS bhakts are joining RSS and involved in "ghar waapsi" ..dusri taraf DMBS is co-mingling with "fire-brand" Owaisi...
Seems DMBS has got his community totally confused...
All I have to say is "Lage raho Munna(Muffy) bhai"

DMBS: Dawedaar (Dictator)Mufaddal Bhai Saheb

again totally bullshiit post by taheri gang....owaisi meets muffy every year after muharram, last year also he met some where in mumbai.

I guess no one meets taher in thane is the really problem here. loool

real problem is not that muffy mets owaisi or any one else.

real problem is what kind of narcist keeps his own mega pic in his own house below the kalema shadat

try to think about it. would Imam Ali or Imam Hussain would so some thing like this, I dont think so. thats were the real problem is

In fact Muhammed SAW and Ali AS disliked to keep their pics or statues in order to keep the center stage only for Allah in deen.

Qadir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:33 am I am sorry, yes it was nizaris who assassinated Imam Aamir. Zaydis were the people who harassed Duat of Yemen and dawat shifted to india because of them.

But the statement that they live in Africa peacefully without doing court cases is definitely wrong. Houthis in yemen fighting against saudis are zaydis so it means that they are just like ISIS people taking jihad in literal sense.

If you don't know difference between Nizari and Zaidy, or who Zaidy are fighting and why Saudi and all this because you rely on corrupted literature to blame Sharif's decendants of Imam Hassan the 2 nd Imam and eldest son of Imam Ali, whose decendants were harassed politically by jaferia Shia leaders, you jump in with accusations they harassing Diai.

Says a lot about your shallow knowledge.

Bohra spring wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:12 am

Qadir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:33 am I am sorry, yes it was nizaris who assassinated Imam Aamir. Zaydis were the people who harassed Duat of Yemen and dawat shifted to india because of them.

But the statement that they live in Africa peacefully without doing court cases is definitely wrong. Houthis in yemen fighting against saudis are zaydis so it means that they are just like ISIS people taking jihad in literal sense.

If you don't know difference between Nizari and Zaidy, or who Zaidy are fighting and why Saudi and all this because you rely on corrupted literature to blame Sharif's decendants of Imam Hassan the 2 nd Imam and eldest son of Imam Ali, whose decendants were harassed politically by jaferia Shia leaders, you jump in with accusations they harassing Diai.

Says a lot about your shallow knowledge.

And when you say Imam Hasan is the second Imam it proves that you don’t even have the shallow knowledge i possess.

Keep that knowledge to yourself to fool 1 million or let me clarify 300,000 singing dancing abdes who really care , hooked on with halucinations and semi Hindu mythology blended sheep stage shows .

Now with Taheri...he needs to convince the 700,000 undecided his ship is better than muffys so they can leave the entertainment Muffy love cruise provides...like social halls, banquets, promises promises for hereafter .

Muffy cruises travel to Colombo Bali Daresalam,

Next destination Macau . With hunting safari to Zambesi, Cannes.

Due to bad weather and local restrictions and abde fun considerations Toronto Vancouver Melbourne Mecca Madina tours permanently discontinued.

He did not convince me so I have already jumped on the old cargo ship that I think will reach the destination, it's tough, hardly any free tifin and we have to work hard on the ship, and no promises. The port Master will decide where I will end. But I have a lot of trust in Port Master and his callers. I am going through rough waves but will get via uninteresting places His bff went through 1400yrs ago.

I hope you get the point. Ah Hoi

Try to visualize before reply

Qadir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:52 am

Bohra spring wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:12 am

If you don't know difference between Nizari and Zaidy, or who Zaidy are fighting and why Saudi and all this because you rely on corrupted literature to blame Sharif's decendants of Imam Hassan the 2 nd Imam and eldest son of Imam Ali, whose decendants were harassed politically by jaferia Shia leaders, you jump in with accusations they harassing Diai.

Says a lot about your shallow knowledge.

And when you say Imam Hasan is the second Imam it proves that you don’t even have the shallow knowledge i possess.

DMBS and his followers are betting all sides of the game. In the rapidly unfolding Indian politics that is a wise strategy. But yards of shawls and photo-ops will not deter RSS, Shiv Sena and other right-wing extremists.

Minister Ehsan Jafri, of Gujarat riot, thought he had friends in high places but was killed.

When RSS, Shiv Sena and other right-wing goons go on rampage no 'shifarish', dadhi-topi or rida will give DMBS followers any amnesty. Burhani Guards displaying their fat abdomen with their medal bedeckled epaulets are capable only of crowd control. RSS and others train and drill regularly; they are very fit and make short work of any skirmish.

muffy is not interested in Bohra interest. all this friendship with bjp is because there are lots of real state projects are going on especially in Ahmedabad where he needs political support to get the lands.

also in many other places such projects are ongoing and he wants to complete them with bjp support for life long income.


muffy is building huge building in Ahmedabad near dargah charging 1200 to 1500 rs for over night stay. this is huge money for any Indian who wants to stay in rubaat.

fees for room have been increased multiple times in last 2 years. you cant even have 1 time food in kutbuddin shaheed roza unless you pay them money

thats the dai work going on for the blind people like Qadir who dont see any thing wrong in it.

punjabis feed millions of people for free every day 2 times a day for free, and they dont even see their religion.

[DELETED] got some fun.

Shk Juzer Bhai Kurlawala, in big bank scam worth crores!

सलाम
आज ता.:30.11.2019 को शेख शब्बीर भाई मुस्तफ़ा के पंचवटी शोरूम पर उदयपुर नगर निगम के नये चुने गये भाजपा के उपमहापौर का बोहरा क़ौम की तरफ़ से आमिल सा. की सदारत में सम्मान किया गया। इस प्रोग्राम में कुछ चुनिन्दा लोगों को ही बुलाया गया जो शेख़ शब्बीर भाई की टीम का हिस्सा है या उनके काम करने के तरीक़े से इत्तेफाक रखते है।
-सवाल यह उठता है कि सम्मान करने के लिए शेख शब्बीर भाई के पंचवटी के शोरूम का चयन क्यों किया गया?
-कुछ चुनिन्दा भाजपा के समर्थक या उस पार्टी के प्रति सहानुभूति रखने वाले लोगों को ही इस समारोह में क्यों बुलाया गया?
-सम्मान समारोह का आयोजन बोहरा क़ौम की तरफ़ से था तो क़ौम के चुने गये एकमात्र पार्षद अली असग़र सनवाडी को क्यों नहीं बुलाया गया? (क्योंकि वह कॉंग्रेस पार्टी के सदस्य है इसलिए?)यानि यह कार्यक्रम भाजपा के नेता के लिए, भाजपा के बोहरा नेता द्वारा अपनी पार्टी को खुश करने के लिए रखा गया ोथा। और अपने तुच्छ फ़ायदे के लिए क़ौम के प्लेटफ़ॉर्म का इस्तेमाल किया गया जो सरासर ग़लत है।
-कुछ अरसा पहले तय्यैबियाह स्कूल के बाहर स्कूल की ज़मीन पर नगर निगम द्वारा बनायी गयी पार्किंग के उदघाटन में भी भाजपा और शेख़ शब्बीर भाई के समर्थक लोगों को ही क़ौम के मोतबिर और जमात के मेम्बर बता कर बुलाया गया था। ऐसा क्यों और किस मक़सद से किया गया सभी को मालूम है।
-बोहरा क़ौम में ऊँचे राजनीतिक सम्बन्ध रखने वाले और क़ौम की बेहतरी चाहने और करने वालों को साज़िश रच कर दरकिनार कर रखा है । और कुछ मफाद परस्त लोगों ने एक जैसी राजनीतिक सोच रखने वाले लोगों की जमात और तन्जीम बना कर क़ौम पर क़ब्ज़ा करने की साज़िश रची है जिसमें कभी कामयाब नहीं हो सकेंगे । इन लोगों की छोटी सोच और कामों का हमारी क़ौम को भविष्य में नुक़सान होगा ।
-बोहरा काम के हमारे कुछ तथाकथित बड़े नेता हमारे क़ौम में बरसों से चली आ रही नाइत्तेफाकी (युथ और शबाब) को ख़त्म करने के मुहिम पर काम कर रहे है, परन्त कामयाबी नहीं मिल पा रही है।क्योंकि कोशिश ईमानदारी से न कर सिर्फ़ दिखावा मात्र है ।और इस आड़ में मुम्बई में बड़े साहिबों से अपनी नज़दीकीयॉं बढ़ाने में लगे हुए है।यह नेतागण शबाब गुट के अपने अन्य साथियों को जो इनकी कार्यप्रणाली एंव राजनैतिक विचारधारा से सहमति नहीं रखते उन सभी को एक साथ एक प्लेटफ़ॉर्म पर नहीं रख सकते, वह दुसरे युथगुट के लोगों के दिल कैसे जीतेंगे ? और मुख्यधारा में कैसे लायेंगे शंका पैदा होती है।
-क़ौम का कुछ लोगों द्वारा अपने फ़ायदे के लिए इस्तेमाल करना बेहद ख़तरनाक और अफ़सोसजनक है।
-बोहरा क़ौम के सभी लोगों से गुज़ारिश है ऐसे कामों की और इस तरह क़ौम की आड़ में राजनीतिक फ़ायदा उठाने वालों का खुल कर विरोध करना चाहिये।

अल्लाह हाफ़िज़
-अली कौसर

Nonsense . Ali Kosar & Shabbir Mustafa are hand in gloves.

હમણાં કોઈનો લેખ વાંચ્યો, જેમાં ચોખ્ખું લખવામાં આવ્યું હતું કે, *દાઈ થી માંડી ને અદનામાં અદના ખીદમતગુઝર સુધીના બધાં જ મોમીનોના પૈસા પડાવવાનો જ ધંધો કરે છે*

આ વાત પરથી મને લોકલ જૂમાત માં ચાલતાં આર્થિક ગોટાળા વિશે બે શબ્દ લખવાનું મન થયું છે.

દાઈ તો ધાર્મિક વડા છે, તેમનું કામ અલ્લાહ ની બંદગી કરવાનું અને ઇસ્લામનું શિક્ષણ આપવાનું જ હોવું જોઈએ. *દાઈલ્લાહ* એ સર્વોચ્ચ થી ઉતરતું કામ શા માટે કરવું જોઈએ?

દાઈ પોતાના પ્રતિનિધિ તરીકે આમિલોને દરેક ગામો માં મોકલે છે, તો તેઓનું કામ પણ *દાઈલ્લાહ* એ સોંપેલું, એટલે કે : *અલ્લાહ ની બંદગી કરવાનું અને ઇસ્લામનું શિક્ષણ આપવાનું જ હોવું જોઈએ*

હિન્દુસ્તાનમાં લગભગ 600 જેટલાં ગામોમાં મોમિનો વસે છે, અને દાઈ પોતાનાં આમિલો મોકલીને પોતાની રૈયત પર હકૂમત ચલાવે છે.

પરંતું આ તમામ અામિલો *દાઈલ્લાહ* ની સૂચના(હુકમ)પ્રમાણે *અલ્લાહ ની બંદગી કરવાનું અને ઇસ્લામનું શિક્ષણ આપવા* ને બદલે એક જુલ્મી રાજા ના ક્રૂર સુબાઓ ની જેમ ગામેગામના અસંખ્ય ટ્રસ્ટ પર ગેરકાયદેસર કબજો કરીને મોનીનો પાસેથી બેહિસાબ પણે આર્થિક લૂંટફાટ ચલાવે છે. તથા દરેક ગામના જમાતની તમામ મિલકતો ના ભાડા વસૂલવામાં આવે છે.

શું આ દરેક ગામની મિલકતો, મદ્રેસા, સ્કુલ, દવાખાના, જુમાત ખાના , મુસાફર ખાના, દારુલ ઇમારત, કે અન્ય કોઈપણ મિલકતો આ 51/52/53 દાઈએ પોતાની મહેનત ની કમાણી માંથી બનાવેલી છે કે, સમાજને અને આવનારી પેઢીઓ ને ઉપયોગ માં આવે તે માટે આપણા બાપદાદાઓએ પોતાની મહેનત ની કમાણીમાંથી ઊભી કરેલી છે?

*ચોક્કસપણે આપણા બાપદાદા ઓએ જ આ મિલકતો ઊભી કરેલી છે*

*તો શું જેમને કમાતા આવડે તેમને પોતાની મિલકતનો વહીવટ કરતાં ન આવડે?*

તો પછી શા માટે આપણા પૈસે પોતાનું ઘર/ગુજરાન ચલાવતા અામીલ આપણા ગામ માં આપણા ટ્રસ્ટ અને આપણી મિલકત નો વહીવટ કરે?

*આપણને શું વહીવટ કરતાં નથી આવડતો?*
*કમાનાર માણસ ડફોળ અને કમાણી પર નભનાર માણસ હુશિયાર એમ?*

20/12/2019

BREAKING NEWS: वाराणसी के काशी विश्वनाथ मंदिर में दर्शन के लिए ड्रेस कोड लागू होगा. नए ड्रेस कोड के मुताबिक पैंट, शर्ट और जीन्स टॉप पहने लोग दूर से ही दर्शन कर पाएंगे. स्पर्श दर्शन के लिए अब पुरुषों को धोती कुर्ता और महिलाओं को साड़ी पहनना अनिवार्य होगा.

Matter in Chikhli

juzer esmail wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:27 am Matter in Chikhli

I am interested to know what namaz he was praying at 11 am?

forwards from whatsap

Mumbai update


Aqa Moula TUS Inshaallah Pehli Tarikh Sunday 26th January, 2020 Fajar Saify Mahal ma Flag Hosting waaste Padhaarse.

Te Baad 10 waaje aap Raudat Tahera Ziyarat ma Tashreef lai jaase ane Te baad Aap Badri Mahal Pehli Tarikh ni Maqdam ni majlis waaste Tashreef lai jaase.

Zohar Asar ni Namaaz Badri Mahal ma Thasse Inshaallah.

Tentative

Aap Magrib baad Wankhede Stadium
Tashreef laawse Inshaallah

Tentative

Monday Bhiwandi Safar par padhaarse Inshaallah.

SYEDNA AALIQADR MUFADDAL SAIFUDDIN AQA TUS will grace SBT10 Burhani Sports Goodwill Cup finals tomorrow 26 Jan at Wankhede Stadium Insha Allah.
Let's be a part of this historic event, cheer for the lucky participants and help the best team win the cup.
Mumineen with valid passes to be seated by 5 PM for Final Ceremony.
Different blocks for Gents and Ladies.
No entry without a Valid Pass.
Please dress considerably respecting the presence of Huzurala TUS.

Wjy would he or Bohras have a problem. Their Diai is gods Diai. They bow to both. In fact they spend minutes prostrating and listening to a Diai, while few seconds to pray Salat. Now who is more loved

momeenbhai wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:35 am real problem is not that muffy mets owaisi or any one else.

real problem is what kind of narcist keeps his own mega pic in his own house below the kalema shadat

try to think about it. would Imam Ali or Imam Hussain would so some thing like this, I dont think so. thats were the real problem is

RedBox wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:04 pm

juzer esmail wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:27 am Matter in Chikhli

I am interested to know what namaz he was praying at 11 am?

Bhai it was mayyat namaz and the case is genuine. Amil got slapped with 'Chapter Case'!

juzer esmail wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 2:30 am

RedBox wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:04 pm

I am interested to know what namaz he was praying at 11 am?

Bhai it was mayyat namaz and the case is genuine. Amil got slapped with 'Chapter Case'!

ok thanx

Today in Waaz Aqa Moula yeh Zabir and Emna be dikrao ni Zikr kidi. After the Zikr em Farmayu ke Zabir yeh Rasulullah SAW ne Ziyafat aapi .Tena sabab ehna bewe Farzando Zinda thai gaya. Mumeneen tame Ziyafat apta rehjo .

From the article below related to US President Trump's visit to India, and specifically to Ahmedabad.
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The Gujarati diaspora, mostly from the US, is expected to comprise a large chunk of the invited audience at Motera, like at the Texas event. Members of the Dawoodi Bohra community, who are largely Modi supporters, have also been invited.

Gujarat Wakf Board Chairman Sajjad Hira told The Indian Express, “We have been told by our top leaders to bring the Bohra people in their traditional dress for the Motera event and we have started shortlisting names from Surat, Dahod, Vadodara, Ahmedabad and Rajkot. We will also invite religious leaders from our community.”
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https://in.news.yahoo.com/ahmedabad-dre ... 57811.html
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The article mentions explicitly what we all knew/suspected. Bohras have been asked to come in traditional dress. So we are being "used" to show support for Modi/Trump, and we are sadly willing complying. I don't have an issue with individuals going to attend if they support PM Modi. That is just fine.

The idea that we are going to go as a group, the right people picked, asked to wear a specific dress - .... We are being "used" as a community to show that we support Mr. Modi when he needs to show that Muslims support him. That is all I wanted to point out.

Orange man from USA should be treated with a cup of Chai by famous Indian Chaiwala

Dal Chaval Palidu
Why are you surprised, even the leader of Abde/Amte has use this sheep of flock for their own good so why should Modi and his gangster do the same.

SBM wrote: ↑Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:44 pm Dal Chaval Palidu
Why are you surprised, even the leader of Abde/Amte has use this sheep of flock for their own good so why should Modi and his gangster do the same.

Not surprised, more like saddened. Also, just wanted to put it for the record so that at least some people will think.

On a related note, in another group we were having a conversation, and some Abde/Amte mentioned that after the "Howdy Modi" event in USA, some Pakistani bohras got turned off seeing Bohras so close to Modi. [beacuse of his actions in Kashmir.] This was before CAA.

Now, after CAA/NRC, and the harsh action against muslims in UP, may be Bohras in India may also re-think. I am not saying anybody is going to leave, but at least people may think - why are we so much "buddying up" with Modi, given the strident anti-muslim election messages of the BJP, and the harsh police action against Muslims in UP.

Below is an example of the video from the Houston event.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... s?from=mdr

"why are we so much "buddying up" with Modi,"
To save the wealth and black money and assets stolen from Abde/Amte Sheep
Please be careful with the word "WE" it is not WE but Mafia Kothar.

*TOILET – RAZA NI KATHA…*

*Dear Amil Saheb,*

Hame Marol na mumineen janye che ke Indian toilet sitting, western karta behtar che (hajat waste). Hame 5 waqt namaz padiye che ane mostly namazi halat ma rahiye che. Ane jo hamara AMAL ma kai qusoor rahi gayo toh *ALLAH mauf kari dese IN SHA ALLAH kemke hamari niyat saaf che.* *Aap ehni zimedari na lau please.*

Aapye hamari Tasbeeh, Darees, Nikah etc ni raza band kari kemke hamara ghar ma western toilet che Indian ma convert karsu toh raza malse ane aa bhi writing ma undertaking maango cho, ane 2 lakh wajebat Maula ma araz karwa ni raza che , western toilet wala gharo ne.

Hame mehnat na paisa (salaam ane sabil na nahi) kherchi ne Indian ma si western sitting banavi kemke hamara gharo ma je buzurg che ehne taklif che, niche bethatu nahi, fashion waste nahi. Aa same sahulat aapna mazaro, bhaissab ane bensahebo na gharo ma bhi che. (hamara pase puro data che)

Aap toh please mohram ane bija miqaat per proper bayan karwa per, namaz tamakkun si padawa per, zor ma niyat deva per (ayyamul bees ma logo fafa marta hata) concentrate karo ne hamne pareshan karwu bandh karo.


Ek Pareshan Mumineen