Mojeza in galyakot

The one and only free public forum for Bohras. The focus of this forum is the reform movement, the Dawoodi Bohra faith and, of course, the corrupt priesthood. But the discussion is in no way restricted to the Bohras alone.
truemumin
Posts: 94
Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:01 am

Mojeza in galyakot

#1

Unread post by truemumin » Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:55 am

On the eve of Syedi Fakhruddin Shaheed Urs mubarak Shahzada Malikul Ashtar Bhaisaheb DM arrived for zyarat in qubba mubarak. Shz Saheb recited Shahadat of imam Husain SA and mumineen did pur josh matam on niyat of tulul umr of Aqa Moula TUS. A mo’jeza was witnessed by mumineen as water like rain and blood drops were seen on the walls of Qubba Mubaraka. Arz was done in Hazrat Aaliyah Imaamiya directly from the Qubba.
Aqa Moula TUS be saakta farmayu ‘tame je imam Husain AS no maatam karo cho, to aa Fakhruddin saheb tamara sagla na saath roi che, ane aa ehna aansu che.’
Aqa Moula TUS did doa mubarak for mumineen ane em farmaayu ke ‘khuda tamne abaad o shaad bakhi raakhjo. Dil ni je je ummeed hoi khuda puri kari dejo. Umoor sagla sehel thai.’
Mumineen ye Moula TUS na kalemaat suni ne ghana roya, ane Moulana TUS na haq ma ghani dua-o keedi.
Mojezo 9:16PM zaahir tahyo. Aa mojezo fajar ni waqat, 3:40AM lag zaahir thato rahyo. Qubba mubaraka na deewar par aansu ni shakelat ma paani nikaltu rahyu.
Khuda ta’ala Moulana TUS ni umar shareef ne qayamat na din lag daraaz ane daraaz karjo
PICS ARE THERE AS EVIDENCE

Hussain_KSA
Posts: 874
Joined: Mon Apr 02, 2007 4:01 am

Re: Mojeza in galyakot

#2

Unread post by Hussain_KSA » Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:50 pm

:D :D :D

accountability
Posts: 1640
Joined: Sat Oct 15, 2005 4:01 am

Re: Mojeza in galyakot

#3

Unread post by accountability » Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:34 pm

Truemumin: you did not answer my question in the previous thread. Kindly do.

Coming to you miracle thread. May I remind you, this is 21st century, blood and water have stopped oozing out from walls and cieling. But very coincidentally, this happens with malik bhai saheb. In yemen, it happened. Now in Galiakot, it happened.

Syedna saheb did the right thing, by praying for all mumins. You said there are pictures, Post the picture please.

Here is the real delimna, these and other like these are reported by people like you, it goes unchecked and gullible people while not believing, they make themselves to believe in such Superfluous things. But I don't understand the reason behind such stunts, Dais, past or present are not required to perform miracles. Or is it a propaganda stunt, just pulled now and then to further bully and intimidate ordinary beings.

truemumin
Posts: 94
Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:01 am

Re: Mojeza in galyakot

#4

Unread post by truemumin » Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:21 am

1. Tell me how to post pictures here. Because i have pictures received by email. I will be happy to post

2. How can you say that mojazas cannot happen in 21st century? Are mojezas defined by time period? Did any hasti said in the past that mojezas will not happen after so and so century?

abcd
Posts: 52
Joined: Fri Jun 11, 2004 4:01 am

Re: Mojeza in galyakot

#5

Unread post by abcd » Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:09 am

The doors and walls of qubba cried!! It is true that this are made out of stones and wood. Now when this is crying it means they are alive. The hindus are saying the same thing but our religion theory is different and by doing this mozizaz we are not only confirming hindu theories but insulting our doats under whose name this types of foolish act is performed and gullible bohras are cheated.

Accountability the trubohra will never give you response to the very logical questions since he believes in this type of moziza.

truemumin
Posts: 94
Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:01 am

Re: Mojeza in galyakot

#6

Unread post by truemumin » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:51 am

abcd

you just talk what comes into your brain but you don't accept the fact which can be seen with open eyes. I don't want to go into Hindu-muslim religion theory but only the available facts

If you talk on the basis of science then you must remember that you are talking only on the basis of whatever scientific discoveries acheived until now and you don't even know whether they are correct or not

abcd
Posts: 52
Joined: Fri Jun 11, 2004 4:01 am

Re: Mojeza in galyakot

#7

Unread post by abcd » Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:54 am

You have cleverly ignoered the basics. Tell me if stone has life then only it can cry, but our religion theaches us that stone has no life and to worship it is a sin.

The Jain temples were doing this water business long time ago and once caught they have stopped doing this.

If this is true as you say then please call the experts and allow to check the same things under fraud proof condition.

I know this will never been allowed.

truemumin
Posts: 94
Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:01 am

Re: Mojeza in galyakot

#8

Unread post by truemumin » Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:09 am

abcd

Are you an authority on religion ? Better learn religion, mojezas happened in the time of nabi, imams etc. and then talk such things. And dont compare our religion with hindus etc.

ok you don't believe stones crying etc. But do you believe it or not that when maula ali asghar died in kerbala, imam hussain took his blood in his hands and threw towards sky and sky absorbed all of it wthout a drop falling down. So one can ask whether sky is a living creature which can hold blood ?
My dear, mojezas cannot be defined like that. There is no logic with mojezas. Allah has created this world, stones, everything. So it is under the hands of allah and his wali ullahs to do whatever

africawalla
Posts: 122
Joined: Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:01 am

Re: Mojeza in galyakot

#9

Unread post by africawalla » Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:10 pm

This moziza happened in this moharram mul aayaam....

Moziza happened in Burhanpur


On 8th of moharram late night a lady came to the gate keeper of the roza and said ke let me go inside the roza as janab saheb has granted me the permission to go inside the roza after 12 as i have some mannat...so gate keeper checked the permission slip and allowed that lady to go inside.....so then after half an hour gate passed but that lady dint come out of roza so the gate keeper started wondering that at this time no trians comes to burhanpur...pluz office get closed at 7..so from where the lady got raza to enter the roza at this time.....so the gate keeper went inside to search that lady...so the moment he went inside he saw the galef ka kapda of all three roza has been changed and all the turbat ahs been covered with chadder of fresh smelling flowers...and on top of all the 3 turbats there is small potli..and he sees lady has been disappered...then q uickly by seeing this gate keeper went and called aamil saheb..gate keeper told everything to janab and then janad opened the potli...by opening it janab found the jewels inside(like emrald,rubi and other gemstones)..so that moment it self janab faxed aqua moula about what happened in burhanpur.....so in return moula replyed that do distribute that jewles in people and remove all the galef ka kapda from all the turbats....and aqua moula farmayu ki it was his wife AMATULLA AAI SAHEB who had come to pray for moula lambi ummar....to burhanpur...

Alislam
Posts: 234
Joined: Wed Nov 13, 2002 5:01 am

Re: Mojeza in galyakot

#10

Unread post by Alislam » Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:33 pm

The Ganesh idols in india drank milk,the water of sea in mumbai turned sweet, the Alams (flags) cried etc..,

All these can be explained scientifically and there is nothing called "Mojeza" here.

Fools are present everywhere to believe in such stupidity.

There are many people in the world who do acts which are beyond comprehension of common people.

would you consider all these as " Mojezas"??

makberi
Posts: 327
Joined: Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:01 am

Re: Mojeza in galyakot

#11

Unread post by makberi » Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:50 pm

though a lotta ppl seem to be talkin abt it...but there is no mention of this mojeza on malumaat.com....and other bohra websites...atleast i cudnt find them.....if anyone has any links pls do post them...thanks

S. Insaf
Posts: 1494
Joined: Thu Sep 11, 2003 4:01 am

Re: Mojeza in galyakot

#12

Unread post by S. Insaf » Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:34 pm

Rajasthan Patrika
Udaipur: 3 Feb. 2008-02-12

40 Bohras Injured In Bus Accident – all were Dawoodi Bohras – Returning from Galiakot Dargah after Ziyarat

At the Khakar turning in Jaisamund lake on Sunday a bus of Bohra pilgrimage was over-turned accident. More than 40 people got injured in the accident. Around 150 from Udaipur had gone on Saturday morning in 3 buses for Galiakot Dargah in Sagwada area. They were returning on Sunday evening at 5 pm. The driver of the bus leading the other buses lost its balance in near the turning at Jaisamund lake. The persons in other buses remove the their the trapped persons. Many villagers also came running to help. Injured were taken to M. B. hospital Udaipur.
The Bohras from Udaipur’s Boharwadi area rushed to the hospital Emergency Ward. Aamil of Udaipur Shaikh Ali bhai also reached there.
Names of injured are as follows:
Ali Akber s/o Shabbir Husain, (20 years) resident of Boharwadi, Khatija w/o Fida Husain (55 year), Mumtaz s/o Mohammed (45 year), Sugra w/o Saifuddin, Taslim (20) Abbasbhai, Mansoor Ali Qurban Husain (60), Yunus s/o Haakim Ali (20), Abbas Ali s/o Asgar Ali (19), Fakhira w/o Moiz Ali (25), Mukaddar s/o Abbasbhai (30), Nafeesa w/o Abbasbhai (60), Burhan s/o Asghar Ali (21), Abbas Gulam Ali (60), Rashida w/o Asghar Ali (50), Farzana d/o Qamruddin Neemuch (21), Husain s/o Mohammed Husain (18), Aziz Husain s/o Shabbir Husain (50), Asghar Ali s/o Ali Mohammed (52), Muneera w/o Shabbir Husain (40), Jumana d/o Shabbir Husain (20), Saifuddin s/o Dawood bhai (70), Khatoon w/o Sadik Ali (50) etc.

Aarif
Posts: 1426
Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:01 am

Re: Mojeza in galyakot

#13

Unread post by Aarif » Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:00 pm

gate keeper told everything to janab and then janad opened the potli...by opening it janab found the jewels inside(like emrald,rubi and other gemstones).. so that moment it self janab faxed aqua moula about what happened in burhanpur.....
Brother Africawalla,

I agree this is the biggest moziza ever happened in the entire history of mankind. A kothari janab reporting about found precious stones. Ideally a kothari janab would have kept all this for himself and his poor (pun-intended) family. By doing this he has done the greatest service to mankind and humanity. Someone told me that none of the bohras have won Nobel award so far. Here is the best available candidate. I strongly reccommend this janab for that coveted prize. His contribution to the world of humanity is truely great :D :D :D :D :D

truemumin
Posts: 94
Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:01 am

Re: Mojeza in galyakot

#14

Unread post by truemumin » Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:34 pm

Rajasthan Patrika
Udaipur: 3 Feb. 2008-02-12

40 Bohras Injured In Bus Accident – all were Dawoodi Bohras – Returning from Galiakot Dargah after Ziyarat


Maulatena Fatema SA. This is the time when rasuallahhad died and is not there. Enemies came to her house, did so much zulum on her. beaten her, even her pregnancy missed

So as per your above theory rasuallah should have come and rescued them. isnt it???

SBM
Posts: 6508
Joined: Sun May 09, 2004 4:01 am

Re: Mojeza in galyakot

#15

Unread post by SBM » Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:12 pm

Rajasthan Patrika
Udaipur: 3 Feb. 2008-02-12

40 Bohras Injured In Bus Accident – all were Dawoodi Bohras – Returning from Galiakot Dargah after Ziyarat

Maulatena Fatema SA. This is the time when rasuallahhad died and is not there. Enemies came to her house, did so much zulum on her. beaten her, even her pregnancy missed

So as per your above theory rasuallah should have come and rescued them. isnt it???
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
What are you talking about Truemumineen?
What is the link of accident and Maulatena Fatems?

truemumin
Posts: 94
Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:01 am

Re: Mojeza in galyakot

#16

Unread post by truemumin » Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:23 pm

an accident is an incident

what happened to those bohras = accident
what happened to maulatena fatema SA = incident

understand ?

Aarif
Posts: 1426
Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:01 am

Re: Mojeza in galyakot

#17

Unread post by Aarif » Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:25 pm

Friends on a serious note,

Let us pray that there are more mozizas like the one mentioned by br. Africawalla. I think this is the only way to remove poverty from our community. The only thing that Kothar should ensure is that a right gate keeper and right janab is posted at the venue of the anticipated moziza. Br. Asli can help kothar by providing reference of all the good and honest janab he has met so far.

I request all of you to seriously start praying and if required pray two extra rakaat of namaz for the pious lady who is going to make us rich. Aameen...

truemumin
Posts: 94
Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:01 am

Re: Mojeza in galyakot

#18

Unread post by truemumin » Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:30 pm

FOR THOSE PEOPLES WHO DO NOT BELIEVE ON MOJEZAS

1. A mojeza of Maula Burhanuddin is visible in hutaib where there was no water. engineers were called from UK but still they were not able to find water. Maula pointed out a particular place and said that there is water here and a well should be dug. Engineers said that it is waste of money. Their tests say that there is no water here. But the well was dug and water is discovered and till now all hutaib is using it whereas water is scarce in that locality

2. One big mojeza which all muslims agrees and accepts is aab-e-zamzam

3. Essa nabi had powers to put life in dead peoples. this is mojeza also

truemumin
Posts: 94
Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:01 am

Re: Mojeza in galyakot

#19

Unread post by truemumin » Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:35 pm

Let us pray that there are more mozizas like the one mentioned by br. Africawalla. I think this is the only way to remove poverty from our community. The only thing that Kothar should ensure is that a right gate keeper and right janab is posted at the venue of the anticipated moziza. Br. Asli can help kothar by providing reference of all the good and honest janab he has met so far.

So by writing this your one allegation proved wrong when you say that all jamaat peoples are corrupt :D :D :D :D

Aarif
Posts: 1426
Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:01 am

Re: Mojeza in galyakot

#20

Unread post by Aarif » Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:35 pm

A mojeza of Maula Burhanuddin is visible in hutaib where there was no water. engineers were called from UK but still they were not able to find water. Maula pointed out a particular place and said that there is water here and a well should be dug. Engineers said that it is waste of money. Their tests say that there is no water here. But the well was dug and water is discovered and till now all hutaib is using it whereas water is scarce in that locality
Do you have any historic proof of this?? Please provide proof and we will believe you.

Now notice everybody very carefully how truemumin will disappear as if some moziza happened :D :D :D

truemumin
Posts: 94
Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:01 am

Re: Mojeza in galyakot

#21

Unread post by truemumin » Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:39 pm

what historic proof you need? It is present and not history. Better you go to hutaib and see by yourself

Aarif
Posts: 1426
Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:01 am

Re: Mojeza in galyakot

#22

Unread post by Aarif » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:05 pm

what historic proof you need? It is present and not history. Better you go to hutaib and see by yourself
The proof that GRT Syedna found out that water by moziza and not the qualified Engineers. Unless it is documented somewhere its nothing but you farting gas on this site. ;)

truemumin
Posts: 94
Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:01 am

Re: Mojeza in galyakot

#23

Unread post by truemumin » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:10 pm

nobody documented about aab-e-zamzam as well. don't you accept it?

and i am sure if you go to hutaib you will find all facts and figures you need

Aarif
Posts: 1426
Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:01 am

Re: Mojeza in galyakot

#24

Unread post by Aarif » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:11 pm

nobody documented about aab-e-zamzam as well. don't you accept it?
If nobody documented it how did an idiot like you came to know what happened centuries back???? :D :D :D

truemumin
Posts: 94
Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:01 am

Re: Mojeza in galyakot

#25

Unread post by truemumin » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:21 pm

accepting sayings of quran and Dai, due to faith. But you don't believe in faith. So a donkey like you either will not accept this mojeza (then dont call yourself a muslim) or if you accept this then you are also accepting truly on basis of faith on whatever books or quran. So again it comes to the same point.....faith

understand... you tiny brain ?

Aarif
Posts: 1426
Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:01 am

Re: Mojeza in galyakot

#26

Unread post by Aarif » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:25 pm

Asli Donkey,

Quran and other relegious books are considered historic documents. All muslims in the world accept them. Historians have proof for all this. However, there is no book or proof saying that Syedna did that moziza accept one donkey on this board shouting for last one hour :D :D :D

truemumin
Posts: 94
Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:01 am

Re: Mojeza in galyakot

#27

Unread post by truemumin » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:27 pm

Mr. Aareef

It seems you don't understand anything. really your brain is tiny. ok go step by step

Why do you accept anything written in quran ?

Humsafar
Posts: 2623
Joined: Sat Dec 16, 2000 5:01 am

Re: Mojeza in galyakot

#28

Unread post by Humsafar » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:44 pm

This whole mojeza business can be proven to be un-islamic. Prophet Mohammed always steered clear of this temptation. When detractors asked him to show miracles in order to prove that he's the prophet of Allah, he clearly refused to do so. He always maintained that the only miracle he has to offer is the Quran. There are ayahs in the Quran regarding this. I can dig them up for you if needed.

Above Average Bohra
Posts: 362
Joined: Wed May 11, 2005 4:01 am

Re: Mojeza in galyakot

#29

Unread post by Above Average Bohra » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:50 pm

Has anyone ever noticed that the Syedna seems to be an expert in making even the dead cry, like it wasn't enough making the living cry!! Is there a mojeza where he has made any of those dead folks laugh? or even smile?

truemumin
Posts: 94
Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:01 am

Re: Mojeza in galyakot

#30

Unread post by truemumin » Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:01 pm

Dear Above average Bohra

Even when you were born you cried. And every chid cries immediately when born. If not then doctors even beat them to make them cry. So this proves that crying is more important to allah instead of laughing

Even quran starts with alif laam meen "alam" (crying or mourning)