Dawoodi Bohra Forum

The One I want to Be,

T he heart of a believer,
is One of Allah Mia’s treasures,
H aving immense fervour,
in achieving thy Hazrat’s pleasures,
E ndued by the gift of faith,
believers tread on our line which is straight.

O nly One percent,
of the world’s population,
N ears the heart of the Omniscient,
whilst accepting our angel’s intercession,
E nclosed by our close knit macramé,
which protects us from any evil melee,

I ncumbant is our duty,
to maintain a sense of hegemony,

W ith immense and concise sense,
for doing business like busy bees,
A stute and having patience,
we know our beloved Aqa Maula oversees,
N either in want nor not,
we eschew politics and Satan’s plot,
T ogether we tread the line,
which is straight and very fine…

T o be a believer,
‘one’ must have a heart of gold,
O nly then will this drop of noor become brighter,
and finally uncurl and unfold,

B ecoming a believer makes you One,
with those who returns to heaven,
E ndued to trust the form of the sun,
envisaged as our Imam in this creation.

By Huzefa Sh Asgarally
27th September 2005. Hijri 1426.

I want to be anything but this.

Please, heave-no-heaven, have mercy on us. If this kind of drivel makes sense to you then please post it where it will appreciated - like malumaat.org. Not here. Here we deal in intelligent issues, not in pedantic hymns and devotional limkericks. Save them for your semi-literate over-zealous saya-topi crowd, they might find some spiritual nourishment in it.

Here's something for you to contmeplate:

Q: What's the difference between bohras and yoghurt?
A: Yoghurt is a living culture.

<u>A new qasida for Heaven-o-Heaven, with apologies to Irving Berlin</u>

Heaven, I'm in heaven
And my heart beats so that I can hardly speak
And I seem to find the happiness I seek
When I am out kissing my moula's feet

Heaven, I'm in heaven
And the cares that hung around me through the week
Seem to vanish like a progressive's smirk
When I am out kissing my moula's feet

Oh I love to climb a mountain
And reach the highest peak
But it doesn't thrill me half as much
As kissing my moula's feet

Oh I love to go out fishing
In a river or a creek
But I don't enjoy it half as much
As kissing my moula's feet

come on and kiss with me
I want my moula's feet to bless all of you
That holy feet, in times of woe
Will carry us right up to heaven

Heaven, i'm in heaven
And my heart beats so that I can hardly speak
And I seem to find the happiness I seek
When I am out kissing my moula's feet

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"we know our beloved Aqa Maula oversees"

Dear Heaven

Do you understand the implications of this line. Anyway, before I write any thing, could you explain what you have understood by this line.

Regards

salam Humsafar,

I want to be anything but this.

thn what u want to be??

Here we deal in intelligent issues

what kind of intelligent issues?
1. Abusing fellow dawoodi bohras??
2. Abusing Aqa Moula??
3. Preaching Islam??
4. bad language???
nething else, i forgot??

Save them for your semi-literate over-zealous saya-topi crowd

You mean to say ur fully literate

was-salam.

way2heaven

The same as the difference between a bohra and an ass-kissing, feet-kissing bohra.

Dear Humsafar: You should actually encourage this heavenoheaven character as he is doing what he does best: being a court-jester. At least we are being entertained. He has nothing useful to contribute to any discussion so he spams us with mails from the Malumaat list. Actually, very few orthodox bohras have anything useful to say as their time is spent in writing random strings of words which they pass for poetry. When it comes time to discuss important matters such people become so incoherent that no one has the energy to decipher their words. We have shining examples of such people on this board.

Porus: Shk Hussain Jamali from LA has already beaten you to writing about moula's feet. His "poem" "My permanent address is... Under my Moula's Feet" is a pathetic attempt to show how abjectly subservient he is to his maula. You can read it on the Mumineen website. One wonders when these people will break free of their self inflicted bondage.

Dear HOH
What's wrong with # 3 Preaching Islam? I hope you do believe in preaching Islam. I still do hope that your consider yourself Muslim besides being Mumin and if you are a good Mumin you would preach Islam

hat kind of intelligent issues?
1. Abusing fellow dawoodi bohras??
2. Abusing Aqa Moula??
3. Preaching Islam??
4. bad language???
nething else, i forgot??

salam Omabharti,
i do beleive in Preaching Islam. But not the way REFORMISTS are doing..by degrading other faiths n religion!!! not by bad-abusive language!!

Im not a scholar, thinker or religiously sound but I've faith n i follow islam in best possible way i can.

was-salam.
way2heaven

do beleive in Preaching Islam. But not the way REFORMISTS are doing..by degrading other faiths n religion!!! not by bad-abusive language

the foulmouthed lanat shouting bunch of sheep are brainwashed into believing that what they are following is a "religion"....

dear HOH
Talk about abusive language. I donot agree if Reformist use abusive language against Sydena, wrong is wrong but how do you condone the language used in Waaz against the caliphs and the wife of Prophet. As Shia we may not agree with them but they did recite the Kalema. How about the same kind of foul language and baddua given to first Adamjee Peerbhoy (NOW THEY STOPPED BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE AGREEMENT IS FOR SAIFEE HOSPITAL AND ADAMJEE PEERBHI SANT)
While you are right that Reformist should not use the foul language why don't you agree that it is not right for our Aamils and Shahzadas and even Syenda to use foul language. Calling Shimar, Khabis and lanati and Jhanami to any Muslim is a foul language

Dear Heaven

Waiting for your response.

Regards

salam omabharti,
I agree with u there is no point in abusing other people or religion. its their belief. even i personally feel bad abt wht shazadas, aamils n moula says in waaz or bayan. BUT ITS NOT TIT FOR TAT. one cant get excuse for the same thing bcoz other is doing..n regarding ABUSIVE LANG. by REOFRMISTS..brother u can check this website posts u will find no. of posts which is so bad n abusing aqa moula directly.

I know there is wide spread corruption in KOTHAR we we cant blame aqa moula for tht. n nobody has right to abuse him.

was-salam.
way2heaven

Dear HOH
Asalam U Alekum
Atleast we both agree that two wrongs donot make one right and I agree that we should not abuse or use any foul language for Sydena or anybody, we may disgree with their policies and tactics but we can be civil and agree to disagree.He is still a leader of community and he is a learned person but like they say, he is responsible for any acts which takes place in community even though he may not have full control of the situation. I know that this site is being visited regularly by people from Kothar and hopefully we can convey the message slowly
Atleast this is a start and hope Reformist and Kotharis alike will refrain from using foul language and have a sensible dialogue.
I WISH EVERYONE A VERY HAPPY RAMADN AND HOPE THAT ALLAH TALLAH GUIDE US ALL TO THE RIGHT PATH

If he does not have full control of the situation he should step down. If the kothar is corrupt and he does not know about it then how can he be a "Gaid na jaankar"?? Is he taking everybody for a ride? And if it is true that he does not know about the corruption of the kothar than he does not deserve to be the leader of the mumineen, he should step down.

Either way, he better repent, cause the month of Ramadan is great for erasing sins.

That should've been "Gaib na jaankar"

Br. Anjami
Asalam Alekum
Why harp on the neqatives. Why can't be we Uniter and not Divider. I have been a victim of Kothari greed and excess and I have lost my loved ones because the selfish Kotharis would not help us in our time of need. But I have left that for Allah to judge them for their deed. Why should I join them in doing exactly the same what they are doing unto you.
Like I said we can disagree and we can critique but if it is a positive one then it is helpful.
Waslam

omabharti,

Walaikum Assalaam

i have never been the victim of any kothar wrong doing. Not once in my life have I had personal issues with kothar nor has any member in my family. Yet, here I am!!

Heaven O heaven and others en'trance'd by Aqa Mouls's glory,

Always say "Subhan al-Moula" at every opportunity. It means "Glory be to Moula".

On the other hand, ponder on this:

Once during his caliphate when he (Ali) was going about the marketplace, a man stood up in respect and followed him. "Do not do it," said `Ali. "Such manners are a temptation for a ruler and a disgrace for the ruled."

Read more at http://www.islamic-council.org/islamich ... ter3-5.htm

Dear Porous
It is very demeaning to compare Ali or that reason any of the Caliphs to the present leaders whether it is Syedna or any other rulers.
I always hear Prophet or Khalifa would not do this what current leaders are doing?
Prophet and Khalifas were simple people and current leadership in any Muslim Community is nothing but power hungry, money mineded.
We should not devalue our Prophets and Khalifas or Imams by comparing them with with current corrupt regimes

Dear OmBharati,

I was offering more a contrast than a comparison.

It is instructive to contrast Ali's injunction to a person who stood up out of respect for him and Kothar's insistence on qadambosi, tauba etc. for the person who would aim to represent Ali in the modern age.

And Ali's words ring sooo absolutely true. Qadambossers look disgraceful and Kothar has fallen into temptaion and revels in the corruption of absolute power.

Here are some more contrasts of Kotharism with the words of Ali in Nahjul Balaagha:

Ala ibn Ziyad al-Harithi: O' Amir al-mu'minin, you also put on coarse dress and eat rough food.

Ali replied: Woe be to you, I am not like you. Certainly, Allah, the Sublime, has made it obligatory on true leaders that they should maintain themselves at the level of low people so that the poor do not cry over their poverty.

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Ali: "Be it known to you that the person who misappropriates Zakat funds, who will fill his stomach with such amounts, and who harms his religion and injures his conscience with such deeds will be punished and disgraced in this world as well as the next. The worst form of dishonesty is the breach of trust of the public funds (Zakat) and the most despicable example of maladministration is that the Imam should tolerate such forms of dishonesty."

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Ali's letter to zakat collectors:

Then go to them maintaining your dignity and prestige and when you are in their midst, wish them peace and blessings of Allah and show due respect to them. Tell them that the Caliph of Allah has sent you to collect from them their dues to Allah. Ask them whether they possess enough means to pay the dues of Allah that you may gather them and pass them on to His Caliph. If somebody tells you that he does not possess enough wealth to make him liable to pay taxes then do not worry him and accept his plea. If someone tells you that he is in a position to pay Zakat, then go with him to his house, field or pasture (because Zakat was then collected in coins as well as in kind). But do not frighten him or make him nervous and do not behave with them with undue harshness or tyranny. Then accept the gold or silver which he offers.