Big scam in Kuwait by Aamil & Sheikh Asgar Obri & Party

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Punewala
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Big scam in Kuwait by Aamil & Sheikh Asgar Obri & Party

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Unread post by Punewala » Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:16 am

I have heard that insider from Jamat has distributed Pamphlets in Kuwait blamming ex Aamil & Sheikh Asgar Obri etc for manipulating accounts and robbing huge sum of money of Gulible Bohris....Any one has details of this pamphlet?

Baskin
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Re: Big scam in Kuwait by Aamil & Sheikh Asgar Obri & Party

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Unread post by Baskin » Sat Jun 27, 2009 2:32 am

Why no replies to this post? The guy (punewala) created a new user just to post this query.

Entertainers on the forum... you missed out on this one!

Al Zulfiqar
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Re: Big scam in Kuwait by Aamil & Sheikh Asgar Obri & Party

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:00 am

Baskin wrote:Why no replies to this post? The guy (punewala) created a new user just to post this query.

Entertainers on the forum... you missed out on this one!
we were waiting for you to come, as how can there be entertainment without free baskin-robbins ice cream? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Punewala
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Re: Big scam in Kuwait by Aamil & Sheikh Asgar Obri & Party

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Unread post by Punewala » Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:45 am

Mr. Baskin

First of all let me clear your doubts that i created new ID to post only this messsage,infact i am very regular reader of this board and i did not post any message for long time and hence my inital log in name BB was some how deleted .

secondly i am trying to get hold of this pamphlet,the moment i get it i will publish it here.mind you its not entertanmnet.its something our jamaat & kotharis should be ashamed of. the Amil & shiekh who have been accused of such allegation must leave their post instantly untill the truth is discovered.

Mr. Baskin untill ppl like you r there in our community i don't have any hopes of improvement.

Thanks & Regards

Baskin
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Re: Big scam in Kuwait by Aamil & Sheikh Asgar Obri & Party

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Unread post by Baskin » Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:56 am

Punewala wrote:Mr. Baskin

First of all let me clear your doubts that i created new ID to post only this messsage,infact i am very regular reader of this board and i did not post any message for long time and hence my inital log in name BB was some how deleted .

secondly i am trying to get hold of this pamphlet,the moment i get it i will publish it here.mind you its not entertanmnet.its something our jamaat & kotharis should be ashamed of. the Amil & shiekh who have been accused of such allegation must leave their post instantly untill the truth is discovered.

Mr. Baskin untill ppl like you r there in our community i don't have any hopes of improvement.

Thanks & Regards
Punewala,

Look at yourself first... you have come to your enemies seeking for help. What will you get by posting the pamphlet on this forum? This forum is neither a police chowki of your community nor the forum members are your well wishers. They will like to have such information for their entertainment.

If you have problem in your home, you don't go to your neighbor for resolution when your neighbor himself is your enemy #1.

Note - I assume that you are either a member of Shabab who is ignorant about the ill motives of the so called reformists or a Aastin ka saanp.

Aqa Moula_Zindabad
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Re: Big scam in Kuwait by Aamil & Sheikh Asgar Obri & Party

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Unread post by Aqa Moula_Zindabad » Sun Jun 28, 2009 3:14 am

Al Zulfiqar wrote:
Baskin wrote:Why no replies to this post? The guy (punewala) created a new user just to post this query.

Entertainers on the forum... you missed out on this one!
we were waiting for you to come, as how can there be entertainment without free baskin-robbins ice cream? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
We knew u r coming here for entertainment......enjoying posts like "KPL" and now this proves our point.....u hav no good intentions.

I m sure u will start jumping again and start ur old recording which has been posted by u more than a million times.....i wonder how much space u occupy on this forum for all ur nonsense

Aarif
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Re: Big scam in Kuwait by Aamil & Sheikh Asgar Obri & Party

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Unread post by Aarif » Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:22 pm

Look at yourself first... you have come to your enemies seeking for help. What will you get by posting the pamphlet on this forum? This forum is neither a police chowki of your community nor the forum members are your well wishers. They will like to have such information for their entertainment.
Thickskin,

Your name befits your personality.. It is not easy for people like u to understand the importance of a forum like this. You are too thick for that. And honestly it is people like you who are aastin kaa saanp and who come here for mere entertainment. Actually this community is in shambles because of thick skinned people like you who are completely used to corruption, chamchagiri and human worship. Punewala has exposed an incident of corruption in our community so that others can read and learn how dirty our pure white robes wearing religious crooks are. Now isn't this post creating some amount of awareness among people visiting this forum??? My take is that there are more orthos visting this forum than reformists. In that case these type of posts act as good eye openers for those who believe that our community is free from corruption.
If you have problem in your home, you don't go to your neighbor for resolution when your neighbor himself is your enemy #1.
In that case the neighbor must be a kothari aamil
:mrgreen:

Punewala
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Re: Big scam in Kuwait by Aamil & Sheikh Asgar Obri & Party

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Unread post by Punewala » Mon Jun 29, 2009 2:45 pm

Dear Baskin
I think Aarif has replied exactly what i wanted to tell you so thanks Bro Aarif for putting it so correctly.

Well i haven't got the pamphlet but i got brief points of 2 pages Pamphlet which was distributed in Kuwait they are as under.

1) The Aamil was so rude that he will not listen to any one and since he was Chor he hasbeen transfered to Chorbazar Mumbai.

2)The Bank a/c of Muwasaat collection was in the joint name of sh.Aliasgar Obriwala & Aamil and due to that they have robbed KD 175000/-(App.)

3)There is no record of Najwa collection worth of Kd 150000/-recently when one of the shehzada visited kuwait and when he was reported abt this fraud he asked Sh Asgar to give the Accounts but the guy disappeared and left for Dubai untill Shehzada Left Kuwait.

4)There are instances and its not hidden to any Jamat member that the boys who collect the money during Ramadhan & Moharran they were caught flicking money from the collection.

5)Lets do the Audit of Accounts if i am lying....

There are many more points exposing the Ex Aamil & Many Sheikhs of Kuwait.

Well i would like to mention it here that the guy who has written all this has not mentioned his name for obvious reason but its sure that someone who is very much inside the jamaat has done so .

Well the Question is Who give them Authority to Open a Joint Bank A/c in Aamil & one sheikh's Name??!!!!!!

accountability
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Re: Big scam in Kuwait by Aamil & Sheikh Asgar Obri & Party

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Unread post by accountability » Mon Jun 29, 2009 3:51 pm

Almost all amils are crook, and secretaries alike. One can understand why would some one give his time for nothing. The way these jamat guys behave do not bode compassion or god fear. Their attitude is somewhat alike. In middle east shahzadas and their cronies have their way. Poor bohras are becoming poorer and these goons are getting rich under the nose of dawat and their administrators.

Al Zulfiqar
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Re: Big scam in Kuwait by Aamil & Sheikh Asgar Obri & Party

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Mon Jun 29, 2009 5:40 pm

accountability wrote:Poor bohras are becoming poorer and these goons are getting rich under the nose of dawat and their administrators.
and one of those goons with vested interests dipping his dirty hands inside the collection pots is definitely aqmz. only someone with a stake in the haraam ni kamai would come here so shamelessly to defend what is patently evil. chor na bhai ghanti chor.. jaisa raja waisi praja..

Aqa Moula_Zindabad
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Re: Big scam in Kuwait by Aamil & Sheikh Asgar Obri & Party

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Unread post by Aqa Moula_Zindabad » Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:40 am

Al Zulfiqar wrote:
accountability wrote:Poor bohras are becoming poorer and these goons are getting rich under the nose of dawat and their administrators.
and one of those goons with vested interests dipping his dirty hands inside the collection pots is definitely aqmz. only someone with a stake in the haraam ni kamai would come here so shamelessly to defend what is patently evil. chor na bhai ghanti chor.. jaisa raja waisi praja..
AZ,

U again proved ur disturbed mental state which is getting worst day by day, U hav put the false blame on me on the basis of ur dreams and assumptions and in the zest of spitting ur frustration on me without actually knowing anything abt me - "Bandar ke haath mein akhrot lag jaye, wo nachne lagtaa hai" aur yeah nahin dekhta ki wo sirf akhrot ka chilka hai.

East Africawalla
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Re: Big scam in Kuwait by Aamil & Sheikh Asgar Obri & Party

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Unread post by East Africawalla » Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:33 am

Its a pity but we have to admit that some human beings are currupt and ussually dip their hands into the pot and I am not surprissed a few of Amils/committee members having a dip as well, why else would they be putting such dedication

Hussain_KSA
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Re: Big scam in Kuwait by Aamil & Sheikh Asgar Obri & Party

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Unread post by Hussain_KSA » Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:03 am

Welcome back Eastafrica wala

East Africawalla
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Re: Big scam in Kuwait by Aamil & Sheikh Asgar Obri & Party

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Unread post by East Africawalla » Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:14 am

Thanks Husainbhai, you may be the only one who must have missed me apart from AZ

confused bohra
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Re: Big scam in Kuwait by Aamil & Sheikh Asgar Obri & Party

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Unread post by confused bohra » Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:41 am

along wid shk obri n da ex aamil's scam in kuwait...
dere is anoder scam done by shk ehsaan..
who has done a ghapla of about 5 lakh dinars from da kufa fund....

i donno how far its true...but overheard dis news...

can any1 who has recieved da pamphlets in kuwait...put som light on dis....

humanbeing
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Re: Big scam in Kuwait by Aamil & Sheikh Asgar Obri & Party

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Unread post by humanbeing » Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:18 am

Hi

This are few examples of embezzlements which we hear after doling out fakheraa rakam in wajebats, hoobs, salaams, sabils, laagats and how many more schemes.

Mansoon Mufaddal Bhaisaab, offered his kadam service to Sheikh Ehsaan during the Galiyakot tour.

Sheikh Obri is still in centre of jamat activity with current Amil.

One sheikh popularly known as Fatehnagri, was also involved in embezzlements in past, now he still enjoys status of sheikh and looks after a muhalla affairs.

Son-in-law Sheikh Murtaza of current amil politely reprimands a teenage khidmatguzar on doing empty handed salaam to Amil Saab, he was advised to do the salaam with money or not to do salaam at all.

A famous hawala trader from dahod is well known sheikh in Kuwait, who lost big bucks in recent cheque fraud. Also gossiped that, many big names from jamaat committee pledged money into this fraudulent scheme.

Udaipur Amil sells fake and original passes for kadambosi chance, gets caught and justice is unknown. Can anyone please provide some insight.

Galiyakot Amil had a field run, negotiating prices behind closed doors for various services offered during the tour. This particular act is not even in discussion or considered wrong amongst abdes. Many of my profound abde friends gloated in pride of how they secured passes by paying expensive bribes to Galiyakot amil and other jamat members.

Unauthorized MSB started in the basement of main community hall charged exorbitant fees for limited education, facilities and unrecognized education outside. On closure of the MSB by the government authorities. Parents were left stranded with no refund and loss of academic year of their wards.

think
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Re: Big scam in Kuwait by Aamil & Sheikh Asgar Obri & Party

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Unread post by think » Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:39 am

atlanta is no different. fund for mosque were collected on three occasions and vanished as soon as the local amil was transferred. big wajebaats and wasteful spending is the cry and life story of nearly every bohri.

ozmujaheed
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Re: Big scam in Kuwait by Aamil & Sheikh Asgar Obri & Party

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Unread post by ozmujaheed » Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:45 am

Who do we blame more the heartless who stole or the fools who parted with their dough?

Al Zulfiqar
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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:24 pm

ozmujaheed wrote:Who do we blame more the heartless who stole or the fools who parted with their dough?
it is said that people get the govt they deserve. the same applies even to abde bohras.

i would put the major part of the blame on the abdes, who inspite of being generally better educated and prosperous than most other communities, have lost their moral compass, humanity and common sense. for them their society, friends and routine has overshadowed their integrity, god-given intelligence and even the true religion.

learning from their crooked masters, they too have sacrificed all their principles at the altar of expediency, and are indulging in pursuit of wealth, fame purchased with bogus titles, show, pomp and glamour.

i dont know how many of you remember the scene in the movie "the bible", when moses returns from the mountain with the stone tablets on which the ten commandments are engraved by god, and finds his people engrossed in debauchery, excess, shameless behaviour and hedonism.

that is where the bohras are today, totally engrossed in worthless rituals, kufr, feasting on lavish foods, worshipping humans, mutated into a cult, totally oblivious to the suffering around them within their own community and dismissive of all other humanity, selfish, egotistical, arrogant people inflated with self-importance.

Dbc1
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Re: Big scam in Kuwait by Aamil & Sheikh Asgar Obri & Party

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Unread post by Dbc1 » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:09 pm

Shk obri is untouched.. He has claimed more responsibility and power than before from what I have heard and shk ehsaan is doin Imamat namaaz in d main Kuwait markaz..

What applies here is
"jene chahe uncha Kare, jene chahe neecha Kare,
Jene chahe aape jene si chahe cheeni le "

Abdes are informed and agreed upon such behaviors.. It's more like everything happens with their consent, lol,