Similarities between Khomeini & Burhanudin saab.

[ghulam muhammed]

If we observe Ayatollah Khomeini's rule over Iran and his grip on his followers it immediately reminds us of the rule of Burhanudin Saab and his grip over Bohras. A few observations on Khomeini as made by a journalist are as under :-

Ayatollah Khomeini and the rest of the Ayatollahs (like syedna and his shahzadas) exploit the teachings of Shi’ism in order to further their own power and status. The Ayatollahs elaborate on the concept of Infallible Imams, and by doing so, they indirectly boost their own position and status since they are the interim Imams. To put it bluntly, the Ayatollahs are telling us that since the Hidden Imam could not make it to work today, Ayatollah Khomeini is going to be filling in for him.

This concept is called Wilayat ul-Faqih. In the absence of the Hidden Imam, the Shia decided that they would elect a popular leader, or deputy Imam. This deputy Imam, such as Ayatollah Khomeini, would be the “representative” of the Mahdi while he is in occultation (just like Burhanudin saab).

Under this system of Wilayat ul-Faqih, Ayatollah Khomeini became the supreme leader of Iran. In 1969-70, the late Ayatullah Khomoeini further elaborated on the concept in his work “Islamic Government” and the notion of Wilayat ul-Faqih was enshrined in the Iranian Constitution in 1979. Ayatullah Khomeini declared that the deputy Imam is endowed with the same authority as an Infallible Imam, encompassing all spheres of life (like syedna). Ayatollah Khomeini declared himself to have Wilayat ul-Mutlaqa, or Absolute Authority from Allah (like syedna who calls himself illah ur ard, haqiqi kaaba etc.etc.). Ayatollah Khomeini said in one of his speeches that the Wilayat-ul-Faqih can even order Muslims to stop reading prayer if he finds that reading the prayers could harm Islam.

The Shia scholars have quoted the Infallible Imams as calling themselves Ayatollahs (the Signs of Allah). We are not surprised to find that Khomeini also took this title. We wonder: how exactly is Khomeini a “Sign of Allah?”(how is syedna ilah ul ard, haqiqi kaaba ?). In fact, his entire name–Ayatollah Ruhallah Khomeini–is a perplexity. Ruhallah translates to “Spirit of Allah.” Are his followers really claiming that Khomeini is the Spirit of Allah? Likewise did the Christians do with their Prophet. The Shia also say that their Infallible Imams were the Hujjat (proof) of Allah, and we are then not surprised to find that Ayatollah Khomeini also declared himself Hujjat of Allah.

Using the concept of Wilayat ul-Faqih and Mutlaqa, the Shia Imams have quickly brought themselves to such a lofty position as rulers and monarchs of Iran (like "sultan of bohra" and his "shehzadas"). This Wilayat ul-Faqih is the biggest fraud in the world; these Imams have hoodwinked so many millions of people into being subservient to their rule.

Khomeini and the rest of the Shia leaders have used and abused the Shia doctrine of Imamah in order to boost their own political power by using the concept of Wilayat-ul-Faqih. The Ayatollahs have become so powerful and politically influential that they have millions of Shia adherents posting up pictures of the Ayatollahs as if they were pop idols.

The Shia Clergy have used their power to get immensely wealthy. They are quite literally swimming in money, thanks to the concept of Khums. Of the Khums payment (which is 20% of a man’s income), half of it must be given to the deputy Imam. In this manner, the Ayatollahs and Imams have become billionaires in Iran (just like Burhanudin saab).

It is altogether degrading how the Shia Imams exploit their religion to fool the incredulous masses who do not bother to question the exalted status of their leaders.

[SBM]

Br. GM
It is not only Shias or Bohras, what do you think the Mullahs of Lal Masjid in Pakistan did when they put lives of hundreds of innocent children and women because of the power they had over the Madrassahs and Masjid
Please do not give this as Shia-Sunni issue. Al Qaida and Talibans are purely Sunni school of thought and considered as terrorist in Islamic countries including their own of Saudi Arabia-Afghanistan and Pakistan
Let us be honest let us call spade a spade. Every Mullah being Sunni or Shia have used their power to enhance their egos harming peaceful and living simple teaching of Prophet Mohammed (SAW) and teaching of Islam.

[SBM]

The Shia Clergy have used their power to get immensely wealthy. They are quite literally swimming in money,

What do you think about Bukhari of Jama Masjid in Delhi India, one of the richest land owner in Delhi. where do you think he got his money

[Aqa Moula_Zindabad]

The Shia Clergy have used their power to get immensely wealthy. They are quite literally swimming in money,

What do you think about Bukhari of Jama Masjid in Delhi India, one of the richest land owner in Delhi. where do you think he got his money

Why dont u guys start a reform movement against the Bukhari's and Khomeini's.....since u all have taken a free flag of being on true islam and fighting against unislamic practices.....pls all u zombies do u have balls to do some open reform against Bukhari and Khomeini or u guys r toooooooo personal / jealous against bohra administration

Can Ajgar write open letters to Bukhari
Can he stop him boarding a plane if he is late
Why dont u publish a chronicle against bukhari
Why dont u do conferences against Bukhari and Khomeini (since u claim ur reform movement to be international, held a conference in IRAN)
Can Mr Insaaf write to newspapers to expose Bukhari
Can u question huge wealth of these leaders
Can AZ dare open his mouth and curse them
Can u prepare ur next generation against them

Pls all u zombies wake up.....enough of ur nonsense against Syedna Mohammad Burhanuddin (TUS) now there is a bright opportunity for a true reform.....can u do it......i m sure not

[mutmaeen]

bro gm

ur previous tirades against shia'ism were justified by u as a response to bro mubarak's comments on the sunni caliphs.but now ur sunni bias and anti shia'ism stands exposed as without a rhyme or reason u start maligning shia imams and shia beliefs in the garb of comparing ayatollahs and dai.

its again noteworthy that u seldom take a stand against sunni debauchery.
u accuse bro mubarak of comments that divide unmah-u r doing the same-blatantly

[SBM]

AQ ZOMBIE

Why do not you ask your Aqa Moula and his Goon Shezadas to do the same instead of giving Shawls to Muslim and Bohra killers like Narendra Modi and kissing the butts of Rulers of Kuwait and other tyrannical countries, why they have no balls to tell them the same things you are asking Dr. Engineer and others to do.
Bohra Reform movement does not give out crores of rupees and dollars for election of Muslim hater American President like Bush-Chenney as Syedna's family did in 2000 election. (if interested, I can send you the list of all the Kotharis who contributed US $250,000 collectively on the behest of Kothari Goons in USA. first and foremost is Turab bhai Zakiuddin and his family who are the trustee of Dawat-e-Hadiyah USA, non profit organization)

[jayanti]

Omabharathi read first what

Why dont u guys start a reform movement against the Bukhari's and Khomeini's.....since u all have taken a free flag of being on true islam and fighting against unislamic practices.....pls all u zombies do u have balls to do some open reform against Bukhari and Khomeini or u guys r toooooooo personal / jealous against bohra administration

Can Ajgar write open letters to Bukhari
Can he stop him boarding a plane if he is late
Why dont u publish a chronicle against bukhari
Why dont u do conferences against Bukhari and Khomeini (since u claim ur reform movement to be international, held a conference in IRAN)
Can Mr Insaaf write to newspapers to expose Bukhari
Can u question huge wealth of these leaders
Can AZ dare open his mouth and curse them
Can u prepare ur next generation against them

Pls all u zombies wake up.....enough of ur nonsense against Syedna Mohammad Burhanuddin (TUS) now there is a bright opportunity for a true reform.....can u do it......i m sure not
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Pls dont change the Topic.You have two face so pls shut up.

[Muslim First]

Question!

What Sunnis has to do to with comparism between leader of Bohra religion and Shia leader of Iran?

[Al Zulfiqar]

bro gm,

comparing syedna to imam khomeini may be gratuitous in the sense that both are shia, but beyond that the comparison ends. in many ways khomeini was infinitely better than syedna. he led a strict austere islamic life, shunned pomp and false show and never spoke lies or misled his people in the name of religion. he was the only islamic leader of note, who publicly spoke out against salman rushdie and before he issued the famous fatwa, he personally made many appeals to rushdie to engage in a dialogue at any place and time of his choosing. he even showed readiness to invite him to iran as a state guest and send him a pvt plane to come and openly and frankly discuss whatever rushdie's issues were.

khomeini led an unblemished and very pious life in the service of islam and his people. he was one of the few to quickly understand the conspiracy of the west against muslims and specifically iran, the emasculation and manipulation of the shah by the americans and other western countries and the destructive effect of the iran/iraq war on all muslims, which was started under provocation of the americans at the prompting of the gulf arabs, saudi in particular, who were alarmed at the overthrow of a king and rise of people power and shia muscle in iran. all these deep rooted geo-political and anti-islamic rivalries between shia sunni and arab/persian was a convenient excuse to the americans to weaken the entire muslim world.

khomeini had the vision and the courage to recognise the danger and unilaterally declared ceasefire in a senseless war which lasted 8 years and killed millions on both sides. i have read extensively on the background, upbringing and life of khomeini. you will find many iranians who will abuse all that is bad in iran today, including their corrupt mullas, but none, not a single soul, who will speak ill of khomeini.

whereas the syedna and his immediate family live a life of ayyashi, deception and massive frauds committed on the community in the name of religion. they have fooled and cheated presidents and prime ministers of india, they routinely lie, mislead and have taken the entire community astray in the name of religion and have created an entire cult around themselves. the syedna as a so-called muslim religious spiritual leader, goes on lavish hunting expeditions and kills wild endangered animals for sport and pleasure! khomeini would have denounced all this in the strongest terms and declared the syedna as an apostate and kafir as he did the americans and british in no uncertain terms.

please do not insult and tarnish the memory of khomeini by comparing him to someone like syedna.

bro. oma,
it is very tempting to bring in corrupt sunni leaders into this equation, but remember, 2 wrongs do not a right make. today, not only shia and sunni leaders but every muslim needs to first correct himself and think of our collective destiny.

as for jayanti and aqmz,
your desperation in being unable to defend yr leaders shows when u jump in whenever u see any opportunity to malign his detractors. the typical behaviour of cowards and vultures..!

[ghulam muhammed]

Bro Mutmaeen/Oma,

The subject was never to raise any shia/sunni issues because we all know that the so called leaders of both sects are worse then one another. The ruler of Saudi who claims to be a strict adherent of the shariah is himself a puppet in the hands of the americans and zionist lobbies and his family too is well known for their ayyashi. So is the case with the shahi imam who mends and bends rules for his own personal monetary gains and aligns with certain political parties for personal favours. "Hamam mein sab nange hai". The very division of Islam on the basis of sects is very bad and sinful.

The idea of comparing khomeini with syedna was purely on the basis of their so called claim of being the only true religous leaders of Islam and the similarities they have with regard to their personal contact with Imam uz zaman, calling themselves the true represantatives of Allah swt, extorting money from people in the guise of religous taxes and a craze for power. Above all their usage of the shia doctrine for their personal gains. There is nothing in this article which attacks shiasm but it is an attempt to make people see how they are used by vested interests.

[ghulam muhammed]

There are certain sub sects in the sunnis who too are not the patrons of Islam as confirmed by sunni scholars:-

IMPLICATIONS OF THE WORDS OF THE HOLY PROPHET (S.A.W.) :-

(1) THE SEDITION (FITNA) OF NAJD


Hazrat Abdullah ibn Umar (r.a.) narrates that: "One day the Prophet (s.a.w.) prayed to Allah: "Kindly bestow blessings for us in Syria (Sham) and Yemen". At that time a group of people from Najd were also seated. They implored: 0 Prophet of Allah (s.a.w.), kindly pray for our Najd also. But the Holy Prophet (s.a.w.) continued once again imploring: "0 Allah kindly bestow blessings for us in the countries of Syria and Yemen. Again the people from Najd implored: 0 Prophet of Allah (s.a.w.), kindly pray for our Najd also.
The narrator states that probably at the third request the Holy Prophet (s.a.w.) replied: "Najd is a place of earthquakes, and sedition (fitna) and from there the horns of the Shaitaan will emerge." (BUKHARI)

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(2) THE FITNA, AS DESCRIBED BY THE PROPHET (S.A.W.) AS A WARNING IS THE FITNA OF WAHABISM


Maulvi Husain Ahmad Sahib, the Founder Patron of the Tableeghi Jamaat describes the appearance of Mohammed bin Abdul Wahab as follows: "Mohammed bin Abdul Wahab Najdi appeared from Najd, Arabia at the beginning of the thirteenth century (A.H.). Because he adhered to false ideas and untrue beliefs he therefore waged a bloody war with the Muslims of the Ahle Sunnat Wa Jamaat. He tried to impose his ideas and false beliefs by force. He considered the wealth of the Ahle Sunnat Wa Jamaat as his legitimate booty. He regarded their massacre as blessings for himself." (ASH SHAHAAB AS SAAQIB - Page 42)

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(3) THE NAJDI GROUP


In the words of the Prophet (s.a.w.) Hazrat Shareek ibne Shahab (r.a.) narrates that the Holy Prophet (s.a.w.) stated on one occasion: "That in the final eras before Qiyamat a Jamaat will appear who shall recite the Quran, but it shall not go below their throats. They will go out of the sphere of Islam as an arrow shoots out from the bow. Their special mark of distinction shall be the shaving of their heads, or sitting and moving in groups. They will continue appearing one after another till their last group shall appear along with Dajjal." (MISKHAA T - Page 309)

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(4) THE RATIFICATION OF THE SIGN IN THE WORDS OF THE FAMOUS HISTORIAN OF ARABIA, HAZRAT ALLAMA ZAINI DAHLAAN MAKKI


He states: "This description of the Holy Prophet (s.a.w.) about the distinction of the Jamaat which will appear in the era near Qiyamat in that they will shave their heads is in fact a perfect description of the Najdi group, because indeed to shave their heads is their collective tradition. Before that, the Khawarij and other corrupt groups did not possess this distinction." (AL FATUHAT ISLAMIA - Vol. 2 - Page 268)

[Aqa Moula_Zindabad]

AQ ZOMBIE

Why do not you ask your Aqa Moula and his Goon Shezadas to do the same instead of giving Shawls to Muslim and Bohra killers like Narendra Modi and kissing the butts of Rulers of Kuwait and other tyrannical countries, why they have no balls to tell them the same things you are asking Dr. Engineer and others to do.
Bohra Reform movement does not give out crores of rupees and dollars for election of Muslim hater American President like Bush-Chenney as Syedna's family did in 2000 election. (if interested, I can send you the list of all the Kotharis who contributed US $250,000 collectively on the behest of Kothari Goons in USA. first and foremost is Turab bhai Zakiuddin and his family who are the trustee of Dawat-e-Hadiyah USA, non profit organization)

Omabharti ZOMBIE ++++

u started ur non sense again....AZ and u hav only one prototype answer for all the questions.....u r not objective at all....ur fight was never and cannot be against religion / Unislamic practices......i was correct in saying that u r toooooo personal and jealous with the bohra adminstration.....u failed or rather trying to hide from my questions by putting the same old dirty blames.

AZ and u r the best fit for the definiations of "Vultures" which AZ has already described

[Aqa Moula_Zindabad]

bro gm,
as for jayanti and aqmz,
your desperation in being unable to defend yr leaders shows when u jump in whenever u see any opportunity to malign his detractors. the typical behaviour of cowards and vultures..!

GM can easily quote some details from Quran on this dirty man's language.......who on one hand fights for the reform and on other enjoys sitting in Amils Thaal (THAALI KA BAIGAN)

[ozmujaheed]

I really hope GM has confused the name of Khomeini with Khamenei which are 2 individuals. Respected Khomeini died many years ago and current Iran problems are a result of Khamenei who history states has a checkered past.

Agree with AZ that Khomeini was a different individual and lived a very modest life. Aftrer his death his offsprings did not claim the ayashi current Burhanudinns shazadahs enjoy. Khomeini fought for his people went to exile, and was a true leader, gave a nation of 70million and 150million Shiais a respected identity which is better than what Whahabi gave to Taliban and Al Qaeeda.

Khomeini earned his position unlike Burhanudinn who inherited a dynasti of 1 million misguided semi Indian semi Islamic cult from gujarat.

Khamanei is a different idiot ! Regarding the titles Ayatollah and Ruhullah are exegerations and Islam and Sunni of Wahahabi leaning discourgaes such titles however we also have startnge names as Amatullah, Habibllah, etc.

More comment this infallible of Imams and mythological idealogy is very much a difussion of Zorastarianism when Islam melded in Persia hence if we want to criticise Iranian practises the root cause will also question Ismaili Shia beliefs.

[Fatwa Banker]

Khomeini was a different individual and lived a very modest life. Aftrer his death his offsprings did not claim the ayashi current Burhanudinns shazadahs enjoy. Khomeini fought for his people went to exile, and was a true leader, gave a nation of 70million and 150million Shiais a respected identity which is better than what Whahabi gave to Taliban and Al Qaeeda.

You appear to use the term "respected" rather loosely. Khomeini butchered his opponents and dissidents as soon as he came to power and was a dictatorial tyrant. Burhanuddin takes advantage of wimpy, gutless and spineless souls who adore him, voluntarily.

There is a difference....

[mutmaeen]

Khomeini earned his position unlike Burhanudinn who inherited a dynasti of 1 million misguided semi Indian semi Islamic cult from gujarat.

semi indian -maybe true of you.as far as a majority of us are concerned we are fully indians.

[accountability]

GM, you are distorting facts a bit. You are comparing apple and oranges. Khomeini and Syedna saheb are world apart. I usually donot have empathy for mullahs of any kind. But khomeini was a different mullah. it is true after revoloution he was more brutal than shah in some cases. He made Bani sadr run for his life.

[accountability]

But khomeini was not worldly man, he did not accumulate wealth or properties. He did not name his son as next rahber. this is not an excuse for atrocities he committed against shah's people. The total obedience he demanded from his followers was never justified. He behaved like a typical mullah, iranians could only taste another dictatorship, from imperial to theocratic.

[Muslim First]

khomeini was not worldly man,

AC, AS

He did allow his son to get rich and got rid of young aids who suppported him in exile. He even hanged his aid Sadek Goatbazade (pardon my spelling of his last name)

[ozmujaheed]

If in your case Khomeini was personally accountable for the people butchered during his reign then the same way Burhanudin is accountable for the corruption and opression committed by his administration in Bohra jamaat, remember all the delayed mayats, men and women separated from their families for chithi baan reasons, or non payment of wajebat, manipulating and discrediting Rasullullah SAW religion, shirk, lack of sincere loyalty to the land by not encouraging paying taxes and patriotism, strange and creepy oath taking during Misaq liust goes on

Comparing apples with coconuts

Khomeini did not hunt wildlife for fun..B enjoyed his safaris
K did not build a jemstone and gold moseleum for his father..Burhandin did
K did not create positions and wealth for his Shazadas...B did
K did not encourage bribing corrupt leaders so that they can sing his praises and feel important..
K did not ask his followers to go an pray pretend namaz in Kabaa
K did not promise janaat to his followers...B does
K did not lie in court to hide his beliefs...B and S did
K did not pretend to meet enemies of Islam in a publicity stunts..B met Modi
K did not Khomeinisize the national wealth ...B has taken over the public property and put it in his own name
K did not claim to be hakiki Kabaa...
K did not ask men and women to kiss his feet
K did not ask for $30,000 for ziafats, najwas, Gold guinea, and shenshayi, no body to greet him withouth a currency in multiples of 52s...

If we have to throw dirt then K may be guilty that he loved his Islam relgion so much that he became obsessed and intolerant to other interpretations or views...

[accountability]

I already said, they are apples and oranges. But love for islam should not translate into a killing spree. May it be Khomeini or taliban. He was blaming shah for dictatorship, but the system he put in was not even semi democratic. All candidates had to be vetted by him or gaurdian council. How did they derive this authority to label some one pious and virtueous and others not.
Even in fiqah jafferia, there is no room for such interpretation. I talked to Late Aqeel Turabi, famous shia alim from Karachi, he agreed with me that in shiism there is no such thing as vilayat e faqih. Having said that , Khomeini was not a materialist, neither he had illustrious lifestyle. He lived a simple life, he had the courage to challange shah with all his might.

[ghulam muhammed]

K did not ask his followers to go an pray pretend namaz in Kabaa

Just like bohras, they too pray pretend namaaz.

[Mubarak]

K did not ask his followers to go an pray pretend namaz in Kabaa

Just like bohras, they too pray pretend namaaz.

Awwal/Sani/Salis also prayed pretend namaz and their followers the Sunni’s too pray pretend namaz.

Unlike Mola Ali (a.s.) who was born inside the building of Kaba, Awwal/Sani/Salis were born as Kafir, practiced all haram things, worshipped idols till they realized new opportunities to be personally gained in potential big religion of Islam.

Though Awwal/Sani/Salis physically converted in Islam but their heart were still associated with idols worshipping. During Islamic namaz they kept small idols in their hands to tell their idol God that though they are pretending to pray to Mohammed’s (s.a.) Allah but their heart is truly with idol God.

In almost all school of thoughts Namaz is one of the most important pillars of Islam and ones full attention is required when one is in state of Namaz. Like religion, Military of any country is one of the most disciplined institute – attention is at its best as it is matter of life and death. Universally the state of attention in military is that both legs have to be extremely close to each other and hands unbent straight facing down. Opposite of this, in the state of relax (vishram), military personal expands his two legs and fold his hands.

As Namaaz requires ones best attention, thus Bohras like Prophet Mohammed (s.a.) and Mola Ali (a.s.) stand in state of attention i.e. both legs close to each other and hands unbent facing down. Whereas Sunni, followers of Awwal/Sani/Salis in namaz stands in state of relax – legs expanded and hands folded – Sunni’s have inherited this state from their neta Awwal/Sani/Salis who were keeping idols in their folded hand to convey to their idol God that they are PRETENDING to pray namaz but their heart is truly with their idol God.
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Ghulam Mohammed bhai, if you have not spitted venom on Bohras in your current post, I was having no time to participate on this thread. Remember if you and your jodi’daars anywhere spit Sunni venom on Dawoodi Bohras, with grace of Mola Ali (a.s.) I will counter it and will make durgati of your trio Awwal/Sani/Salis on same line that I did in thread Mola Ali (a.s.). As you have agreed that your neta Shri Abubaker/Shri Umar and Shri Usman were terrified to fight with Amr ibn Abduwad in battle of Khandaq.

[mutmaeen]

K did not ask his followers to go an pray pretend namaz in Kabaa

Just like bohras, they too pray pretend namaaz.

again this is gm's slander against bohras and shias born out of his prejudices.as u claim to be a bohra maybe ur namaz are pretentious.for the rest of bohras u hv no locus standi to judge the genuineness of their prayers as u r a commited sunni and a bigoted anti-shia anti-bohra

[ghulam muhammed]

again this is gm's slander against bohras and shias born out of his prejudices.as u claim to be a bohra maybe ur namaz are pretentious.for the rest of bohras u hv no locus standi to judge the genuineness of their prayers as u r a commited sunni and a bigoted anti-shia anti-bohra

Bro Mutmaeen,

Until this post of yours I thought you were a sane muslim who argues logically and to the point and not like the mentally retarded Mubarak but sadly your remarks are not in line with the subject. The subject "pretending namaz" was only restricted to the prayers in Kaaba during Haj and not for prayers on a daily basis. You cannot deny that during Haj bohras are instructed by the amil to "Pretend" whilst praying namaz alongwith the main jamaat and that bohras are told to follow the "arkaan" of the bohra amil only hence their concentration is more towards seeing as to how other bohras pray and act accordingly instead of concentrating on the namaz. A sincere and honest brotherly advice to you --- please come out of the shia/sunni cocoon and identify yourself as a Muslim. Both sects have enough lumpen elements which are a disgrace to Islam and humanity at large. Rest is upto you to follow.

To answer to your other question... Iam neither a commited sunni or a bigoted anti-shia anti-bohra but rather I raise certain points which are against Islamic tenats whether it be from a shia point of view or a sunni point of view. If raising a point which goes against the belief of a particular sect makes you anti then the whole reformist bohra movement should be anti-bohra according to you but you will see that it is not the case. By raising questions against the BJP, RSS or VHP and calling their acts in gujrat an act of terror doesnt mean that all hindus are terrorist, same with the Talibans etc.

[ghulam muhammed]

Ghulam Mohammed bhai, if you have not spitted venom on Bohras in your current post, I was having no time to participate on this thread. Remember if you and your jodi’daars anywhere spit Sunni venom on Dawoodi Bohras, with grace of Mola Ali (a.s.) I will counter it and will make durgati of your trio Awwal/Sani/Salis on same line that I did in thread Mola Ali (a.s.). As you have agreed that your neta Shri Abubaker/Shri Umar and Shri Usman were terrified to fight with Amr ibn Abduwad in battle of Khandaq.

Mubarak,

Actually I should be the one to say that had you not spitted venom on the noble sahabas and Ummul mumeenin I would be least interested in entering into a debate with a crooked, mentally retarded person like you having poison flowing in his veins instead of blood and the one who is a "Neem Hakim Khatre Jaan" i.e. someone with HALF knowledge for whom a sect known as "Bohras" is more pure then Islam and a book known as Daimul Islam is more sacred then the Holy Quran and whose NETA is the highly controversial Shri Ahmad Ali Raj and not the Holy Prophet s.a.w. and who follows the rulings of his neta instead of believing in the wisdom of Prophet s.a.w. and surprise of surprise calls himself the follower of Prophet s.a.w.

Regarding your crap of 'durgati', Iam having a big laugh on your childish behaviour by seeing the "donkey praising his own tail" who does not realise his own 'durgati' in Allah's darbar. So please follow your neta and be proud of your laanats and venom as there is nothing one can do as you have already sealed your fate. When munkir and nakir question you in your grave then show them your book of deeds which will be full of laanats and for which you will be very proud. Now how proud will Allah swt and His Prophet s.a.w. be is anyones guess. Atleast the sane and true followers of Prophet s.a.w. will not want their book of deeds to be full of abuses especially for the ones who have left this world. So go on and rejoice and be proud of your dubious character.

[ghulam muhammed]

Ayatollah Khomeini and the rest of the Ayatollahs (like syedna and his shahzadas) exploit the teachings of Shi’ism in order to further their own power and status.

Bro Mutmaeen,

Before you level allegations against me of being anti-shia etc. etc. please read the above line wherein it is clearly mentioned that the subject of discussion is the exploitation of Shia teachings by certain vested elements to further their own power and status. Now just because Khomeini is a shia you take it as an attack on shiasm in the same manner that just because Burhanudin saab is a bohra and so any misdeeds by him is percieved to be an attack on bohraism by certain members on this forum. Atleast that is not what I expected from you. Further, I have clearly stated that the post is an article published in the media and not something penned by me although I agree that I have tried to point out similarities between the two sectarian leaders.

[ozmujaheed]

I have complete faith and respect for Ahlul Bayt and their position in relation to our Prophet,

but this is crap from deviant Shia teachings that Abubakr, Umar and Uthman (as Bohras call Awal, Sanini Salis) are dis-honarable is wrong. True Shias of the Propphet and Muslims would not continue this rediculous historical man-made story after modern knowledge and wisdom. This website and the ADMIN should filter and prevent such abuses to respected pioneers of Islam the same way you expect others to show respect to our own Ahlul Bayt and prevent vulgar abuses to our own saints and Imams.

Can the contributors refer to an specific teachnings or sermons where Khomeini or Shia IthanAsheri teaches Shias to go and not follow Imam of Masjids in Makkah and Madinah..where they are told to question the selection of a Sunni Imam.

If that is the case why do you faction of modern day Shias and Bohras even bother going for Hajj if you disagree with the way Hajj is managed. Do you believe Hajj is a ritual which means one can disguise and fradualantly perfrom physical ritual even though your Niyaat and spiriltuality is different..is this the way you guys go for Allah's forgiveness and mercy with so many doubts in your mind eg pretend pray and pretend expressions and actions. Allah does not reside in Makkah so your rituals are pointless if your intentions are diffrent. How can you ask forgiveness for one sin and same tiome perform other sins..what some heavenly accounting standard will give you a nett Total Sawads after accounting for Gross Sins ...typical banyans.

[Aqa Moula_Zindabad]

..................someone with HALF knowledge for whom a sect known as "Bohras" is more pure then Islam and a book known as Daimul Islam is more sacred then the Holy Quran and whose NETA is the highly controversial Shri Ahmad Ali Raj and not the Holy Prophet s.a.w........

Mr. Insaaf

Pls can u throw some more light on the above statement.....Was sheikh Ahmad Ali raj controversial???? As i have alwayz heard praises for him in all ur posts and what GM is trying to say about Sheikh Ahmed ali Raj.....is there any controversy in his teachings as compared to the Holy Prophet

Note : My question is only for Mr Insaaf.....I request Pupplers like AZ and his henchmen to stay away from this as it diverts the topic.

[mutmaeen]

bro gm

as u say if ur pretend namaz was restricted to haj arkaan then i apologise for my post.but its also a fact that mostly ur posting try to bring out the negative of shia faith and are full of eulogies to the sunni school of thought.daim ul islam is a sacred book for most shias and nothing wrong in quoting from it