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fating at eid ul fitar nite
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:07 am
by banda e khuda
hello, eid mubarak to all brothers sisters and ayna chotta chotta farzandoo. if any one please share the wisdom behind the fasting ritual at eid nite, how why and since when it started? does it have any real significance? is a a shraee hukum or fancy inovation from our one of our late enlighten .....................? apriciate an acadamic reply from one our leading members.
Re: fating at eid ul fitar nite
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:09 am
by SBM
This is the 1st times I heard about Roza on Eid Nite? when did that started. I hope this is an isolated action by a local Aamil.
Re: fating at eid ul fitar nite
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:37 am
by ghulam muhammed
Omabharti,
What bro. banda e khuda stated is quite true and Iam aware of this ritual in bohra community atleast since the past 40 odd years. How old is this custom is something which Iam not aware of and I personally feel that it is not within the framework of Shariah.
Re: fating at eid ul fitar nite
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:54 am
by ghulam muhammed
Fasting six days of the month of Shawwal is mentioned in a Prophetic hadith. The Prophet (S.A.W.) is reported to have said: "Whosoever fasted in Ramadan and then followed up with six fasting days of Shawwal, it is like fasting every day." (Muslim)
The meaning is that the reward is like the reward of a person who is always in fast every day of his/her life.
It is highly recommended to fast six days of the month of Shawwal, but it is not obligatory. Those who want to fast can fast after `Eid Al-Fitr any six days during Shawwal.
It is not required to fast six days continuously without any interruption. One can fast according to convenience any time during the month.
HOWEVER, BOHRAS FAST ONLY FOR ONE DAY IMMEDIATELY AFTER EID AND THEY CALL IT "VIDA NU ROZU"
Re: faSting at eid ul fitar nite
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:13 am
by contrarydrt
I have been doing this fast since i was a child. We would go to sleep at about 11 p.m. after taking a chapati and some gravy along with water. You break the fast after Fajr prayers as you break the normal fasts after Maghrib. I don't know if readers are aware that D. bohras break fast after salat and not before it as Sunni muslims do the world over.
Re: fasting at eid ul fitar nite
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:56 am
by banda e khuda
salam,
still i didnt get the answer what i was looking for, is that why we do it?. what is the doctrine behind this ritual, and who is responsible of starting it etc etc.
Re: fating at eid ul fitar nite
Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:19 pm
by anajmi
There are a lot of bohra rituals that some bohras will conveniently lay at the feet of Hazrat Ali.
Re: fating at eid ul fitar nite
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:59 am
by banda e khuda
anajmi wrote:There are a lot of bohra rituals that some bohras will conveniently lay at the feet of Hazrat Ali.
so u saying that credit for fasting at nite also goes into
Moula Ali"s a/c?
Re: fating at eid ul fitar nite
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:16 am
by anajmi
No, what I am saying is that some bohras might lay it all on Hazrat Ali's feet. I am not the one laying it on Hazrat Ali's feet.
Re: fating at eid ul fitar nite
Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 6:15 pm
by ghulam muhammed
banda e khuda wrote:still i didnt get the answer what i was looking for, is that why we do it?.
No, It is not done on the basis of hadiths of Nabi (s.a.w.) because as per the hadith one has to fast for 6 days in shawwal but bohras fast only for one day and that too immediately after Eid and call it VIDA NU ROZU (Farewel Fast). Bohras dont follow hadiths because they are mostly from sunni sources and they have their own set of hadiths based on something else and mostly contrary to sunni hadiths.
Re: fasting at eid ul fitar nite
Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 3:15 am
by banda e khuda
so bro. G. Mohammad sir u r saying that this roza at nite we do is vida no roza and we bohras have found a short cut for avoiding 6 compulsory rozas u mentioned as a hukum. i can buy this explanation as it seem logical and appropriate thanks.