The Bandwagon Effect and Crowd Behaviiour

[progticide]

Here are some more scientific studies to prove that the reformist/progressive movement was just a fad/trend and people who joined in it have no clue why they are doing what they are doing? They are just brainwashed by their corrupt leaders and failed to rationally question their motives and actions in causing a fracture in the communal harmony of a peaceful society.

I had already proved the above point in the earlier topic “The Monkey Banana and Water Spray experiment”.

But for those who still don’t believe or don’t want to believe in the scientific evidence of their victimisation by their corrupt leaders, here’s some more food for thought.

The bandwagon effect, closely related to opportunism, is a phenomenon—observed primarily within the fields of microeconomics, political science, and behaviorism—that people often do and believe things merely because many other people do and believe the same things. The effect is often called herd instinct, though strictly speaking, this effect is not a result of herd instinct. The bandwagon effect is the reason for the bandwagon fallacy's success.

The bandwagon effect is well documented in behavioral science and has many applications. The general rule is that conduct or beliefs spread among people, as fads and trends clearly do, with "the probability of any individual adopting it increasing with the proportion who have already done so". As more people come to believe in something, others also "hop on the bandwagon" regardless of the underlying evidence. The tendency to follow the actions or beliefs of others can occur because individuals directly prefer to conform, or because individuals derive information from others. Both explanations have been used for evidence of conformity in psychological experiments. For example, social pressure has been used to explain Asch's conformity experiments, and information has been used to explain Sherif's autokinetic experiment.

When individuals make rational choices based on the information they receive from others, economists have proposed that information cascades can quickly form in which people decide to ignore their personal information signals and follow the behavior of others. Cascades explain why behavior is fragile—people understand that they are based on very limited information. As a result, fads form easily but are also easily dislodged. Such informational effects have been used to explain political bandwagons.

Social scientists have developed theories to explain crowd behavior.

1. Contagion Theory - the Contagion Theory was formulated by Gustave Le Bon. According to him, crowds exert a hypnotic influence over their members. Shielded by their anonymity, large numbers of people abandon personal responsibility and surrender to the contagious emotions of the crowd. A crowd thus assumes a life of its own, stirring up emotions, and driving people toward irrational, even violent action. Le Bon's Theory, although one of the earliest explanations of crowd behavior, is still used by many people.

2. Convergence Theory - whereas the Contagion Theory states that crowds cause people to act in a certain way, Convergence theory states that people who want to act in a certain way come together to form crowds. It asserts that people with similar attributes find other like-minded persons with whom they can release underlying tendencies. People sometimes do things in a crowd that they would not have the courage to do alone because crowds can diffuse responsibility. Crowds, in addition, can intensify a sentiment simply by creating a critical mass of like-minded people.
3. Emergent-Norm Theory - according to Ralph Turner and Lewis Killian, crowds begin as collectivities composed of people with mixed interests and motives. Especially in the case of less stable crowds—expressive, acting and protest crowds—norms may be vague and changing, as when one person decides to break the glass windows of a store and others join in and begin looting merchandise. In short, people in crowds make their own rules as they go along.
Decision-making plays a major role in crowd behavior, although casual observes of the crowd may not realize it. In emergent-norm theory, people in a crowd take on different roles: some step forward as leaders, others become followers, inactive bystanders, or even opponents.

For further reading:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandwagon_effect
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_behavior

[Hussain_KSA]

Abdeys are best example of bandwagon.

[like_minded]

Its like.... being called YELLOW by a bunch of BANANAS!

[Conscíous]

Its like.... being called YELLOW by a bunch of BANANAS!

Hehehe ^^

[Global]

Insecticide,

I fail to understand which side you are on. If you are ABDE you are putting your foot in the mouth because all the symtoms listed above are eminated by ABDEs and if you are PDB, I must tell, you are doing a bang up job.

[Al Zulfiqar]

it has already been proved that pesticide is nothing but a vulgar, cheap, foul-mouthed lout under his pretensions of being a pseudo-intellectual. copy pasting stuff from wikipedia and the web to impress his fellow morons and assuage his shattered abde ego does not hold any water for those who know the crap which the syedna passes off as religion.

a kafir who does sajda to dai and sings sajda tujhe wajib hai and ghanu jeevo 24/7 and believes dai is god on earth is going to educate others???

[stranger]

it has already been proved that pesticide is nothing but a vulgar, cheap, foul-mouthed lout under his pretensions of being a pseudo-intellectual. copy pasting stuff from wikipedia and the web to impress his fellow morons and assuage his shattered abde ego does not hold any water for those who know the crap which the syedna passes off as religion.

a kafir who does sajda to dai and sings sajda tujhe wajib hai and ghanu jeevo 24/7 and believes dai is god on earth is going to educate others???

bro Zulfikar,
what u have to say ab ur own words and statement ?
i am not pin pointing anyone personaly but we can do discussions without abusing each other as well.

[guy_sam2005]

it has already been proved that pesticide is nothing but a vulgar, cheap, foul-mouthed lout under his pretensions of being a pseudo-intellectual. copy pasting stuff from wikipedia and the web to impress his fellow morons and assuage his shattered abde ego does not hold any water for those who know the crap which the syedna passes off as religion.

a kafir who does sajda to dai and sings sajda tujhe wajib hai and ghanu jeevo 24/7 and believes dai is god on earth is going to educate others???

Look who is talkin about copy-paste...........

[truebohra]

bro Zulfikar,
what u have to say ab ur own words and statement ?
i am not pin pointing anyone personaly but we can do discussions without abusing each other as well.

Stranger,
What can you expect from a rabid creature?

[Al Zulfiqar]

stranger,

here is a sample of progticide's postings against bhai insaf.

"quoInsaf is in great pain regarding the secrecy of a lady's funeral. Maybe all the reformist should donate money to him so that he ensures that his funeral procession is pompous and extravagant. His body should be put up for public display for atleast 1year so that every prog from across the planet can visit him and see his body rot and decay. And then, it should be mounted on a missile and the targetted to the designated burial spot so that every prog can enjoy the great funeral tamasha that he desires for himself.

Finally, Insaf is smiling that his desired funeral plans have been made known to his prog subordinates. Now, its for the prog subordinates to show their loyalty in putting this to action."

do you have better words than mine to describe the gutter level character and credibility of this low-life?

[stranger]

stranger,

here is a sample of progticide's postings against bhai insaf.

"quoInsaf is in great pain regarding the secrecy of a lady's funeral. Maybe all the reformist should donate money to him so that he ensures that his funeral procession is pompous and extravagant. His body should be put up for public display for atleast 1year so that every prog from across the planet can visit him and see his body rot and decay. And then, it should be mounted on a missile and the targetted to the designated burial spot so that every prog can enjoy the great funeral tamasha that he desires for himself.

Finally, Insaf is smiling that his desired funeral plans have been made known to his prog subordinates. Now, its for the prog subordinates to show their loyalty in putting this to action."

do you have better words than mine to describe the gutter level character and credibility of this low-life?

Bro AZ, i agree with you...this is bad on progticide's part that he uttered such word for Mr. Insaf, who is highly respected among Prog and has been instrumental in Reform movement. obviously it must have been hurted you and ur follow prog.
BUT
you have not spoke less in the thread :: ''do you think that the raudat tahera should be demolished'' againts Syedna Taher Saifuddin. Isnt It ?
I will not copy-paste ur any paragraph or statement here...u know well what u have writteN..That was equaly hurting for DB's.
because whatever u prog thinks and believes ab him but for DB's, He was 51th Dai of the community, a leader and well respected character..just as Mr. Insaf and Mr. Aliasgar for you prog..Its simple, Prog have their own faith and beliefs, so as DB have theirs.
My Point is that Niether of the party will gain from hurting sentiments of one another, instead, it will return and bite back us only.

[ghulam muhammed]

This progticide has made a real fun of himself by posting this and the monkey and banana article. If any sensible person who is well aware of the abde psyche reads these posts he will AUTOMATICALLY relate it with the abdes themselves as these scripts are tailormade for one with a slave mentaility. He has doen... "Apne hi pair pe kulhadi maarna".

[Al Zulfiqar]

He was 51th Dai of the community, a leader and well respected character...

stranger, either you seem to be completely ignorant of the life of the 51st dai or are feigning ignorance.

a dai who was twice convicted in courts, accused of lying, stealing, making false claims and showing utter contempt for the law, who forcibly appropriated all community properties and trusts and transferred them on his name under pain of baraat, who murdered his own wife and his brother and his brother's wife with whom he was openly having an illicit affair, who had his own father in-law beaten up in public several times, who regularly hired goons to harass, persecute and assault his opponents, who sought worldly titles, who lived the life of a tyrant and emperor, who elevated his family to the level of princes and princesses, who hobnobbed with people of dubious character, politicians, underworld dons and their like, who broke up hundreds of families and caused innumerable pain... you call this person a well-respected character? such a person is not only not fit to be a leader, he is absolutely not suitable to be a religious leader!

do not compare bhai insaf and engineer to him. first they are not religious leaders, secondly in moral character and behaviour they are far higher than this criminal. thirdly, i am not a reformist, just a bohra and a regular human being, disgusted at the kufr and outright loot and deception of our community in the name of our deen and moreover islam.

what the present syedna has done is to cement the tyranny started by his father and commence even newer ways to tighten the iron grip on the hapless community. all this ejamaat cards business, safai chitthis, withholding of raza, humiliating of people for payments, innovating newer and more fancifully sounding taxes, demanding total obedience, transforming the syedna into a haqiqi kaaba, god on earth etc had turned the community into a cult, which no longer follows the principles of islam. on the contrary, it is a demonised offshoot which is only mocking islam and using it to oppress, suppress and loot people.

[profastian]

do not compare bhai insaf and engineer to him. first they are not religious leaders, secondly in moral character and behaviour they are far higher than this criminal. thirdly, i am not a reformist, just a bohra and a regular human being, disgusted at the kufr and outright loot and deception of our community in the name of our deen and moreover islam.

You got to be kidding me. Using ajgar/insap and morality in the same sentence. I didn't think you were that gone a case..

[Maqbool]

Here are some more scientific studies to prove that the reformist/progressive movement was just a fad/trend and people who joined in it have no clue why they are doing what they are doing? They are just brainwashed by their corrupt leaders and failed to rationally question their motives and actions in causing a fracture in the communal harmony of a peaceful society.

I had already proved the above point in the earlier topic “The Monkey Banana and Water Spray experiment”.

But for those who still don’t believe or don’t want to believe in the scientific evidence of their victimisation by their corrupt leaders, here’s some more food for thought.

What you have proved? Please re-read and and honestly see that this writepus suits to which part most,The progresive or the ortodox!!

[stranger]

He was 51th Dai of the community, a leader and well respected character...

stranger, either you seem to be completely ignorant of the life of the 51st dai or are feigning ignorance.

a dai who was twice convicted in courts, accused of lying, stealing, making false claims and showing utter contempt for the law, who forcibly appropriated all community properties and trusts and transferred them on his name under pain of baraat, who murdered his own wife and his brother and his brother's wife with whom he was openly having an illicit affair, who had his own father in-law beaten up in public several times, who regularly hired goons to harass, persecute and assault his opponents, who sought worldly titles, who lived the life of a tyrant and emperor, who elevated his family to the level of princes and princesses, who hobnobbed with people of dubious character, politicians, underworld dons and their like, who broke up hundreds of families and caused innumerable pain... you call this person a well-respected character? such a person is not only not fit to be a leader, he is absolutely not suitable to be a religious leader!

do not compare bhai insaf and engineer to him. first they are not religious leaders, secondly in moral character and behaviour they are far higher than this criminal. thirdly, i am not a reformist, just a bohra and a regular human being, disgusted at the kufr and outright loot and deception of our community in the name of our deen and moreover islam.

what the present syedna has done is to cement the tyranny started by his father and commence even newer ways to tighten the iron grip on the hapless community. all this ejamaat cards business, safai chitthis, withholding of raza, humiliating of people for payments, innovating newer and more fancifully sounding taxes, demanding total obedience, transforming the syedna into a haqiqi kaaba, god on earth etc had turned the community into a cult, which no longer follows the principles of islam. on the contrary, it is a demonised offshoot which is only mocking islam and using it to oppress, suppress and loot people.

AZ,
Cant u understand a simple statement : ' Prog have their own belief, so as DB have their own belief and faith'.
still u have to utter the same thing again n again.
You are not reformist but bohra..Ok agreed and accepted..Pardon me, its ur wish and choice but still i would like to ask you that for what purpose you are here for ? to just criticise, condemn and complaint all the time ?
and do you think, by shouting abusing word againts 51th Dai and all the abdes around, treating them as fools and moron..will do any help in uplifting the community as u wish too being a Bohra OR will change the things around ? Is this contributing anything positive ? rather than satisfying ur own ego of being highly intellectual and super intelligent person around.

[Al Zulfiqar]

stranger,

for the last time, the syedna and his bandwagon of monkeys with their rotten bananas can have whatever faith and beliefs they want. only let them not associate it with islam or even the true bohra faith.

since you have no knowledge of our scriptures and practices up until the 50th dai, you dont matter and neither do your opinions and silly interjections. what the syedna and his followers are presently practising is a bastardized version of both islam and shia ismaili mustaalian faith. it is a perversion and a mockery of religion, human rights, ethics and morality.

it is a personality cult and a kafir community. accept it and then do whatever you want behind closed doors like your secret mind control sabaks.

[stranger]

stranger,

for the last time, the syedna and his bandwagon of monkeys with their rotten bananas can have whatever faith and beliefs they want. only let them not associate it with islam or even the true bohra faith.

since you have no knowledge of our scriptures and practices up until the 50th dai, you dont matter and neither do your opinions and silly interjections. what the syedna and his followers are presently practising is a bastardized version of both islam and shia ismaili mustaalian faith. it is a perversion and a mockery of religion, human rights, ethics and morality.

it is a personality cult and a kafir community. accept it and then do whatever you want behind closed doors like your secret mind control sabaks.

Az,
Lets not get personal..I have No issue with you..On a serious note i do have no hatred for reformist as well and i will not say them Kaafir either...They do carry their own concerns and way to interpret things..Just For your information, I have not attainded a single sabak till date but its just that i do have my beliefs and faith and neither your opinions or post can change that..
but yaa...I do believe some administrative and religious section of our community needs reform but it doesnt mean it is a Cult or Kafir community.
Soon, I will open a New thread based on my observation on progressive and their stand, Inshallah... your post and suggestion will be welcomed.