Sayedna not coming to US?

[jinx]

Wassup? Why is he not coming to US? Did he have Visa problem? Tax's prob? Health prob?

Most bohras are happy and relieved. We don't need him here with his nasty family.

[MOHD HUSSAIN]

Sister Jinx; The compaign to stop his & his staff's entry to US is working-Call FBI & IRS & tell them about their illegal money laundering & money collecting schemes & they are ready to listen- He is supposedly arriving in this summer to inugrate half a dozen markazes around US & canada- Please call FBI & IRS & put them on alert!

[Mal]

Thank God ....... he is not coming.... do not let him come here ....... we donot have anything for him here ....... enough is enough, we are sick and tired of his tamashas and tired of humiliations and insults ........ let he and his henchmen and so-called royal family have a flying .....!!!!!!

[Africawala]

We heard first he was coming in June and now we hear he is coming in august to open markazes in the U.S. Do you think he will come after his son left Houston in the middle of the night because IRS and FBI were after him? And will the bohoras be forced to come from all over the world for this occasion? We are doomed again if he really comes. We cannot go to work, we have to fly wherever he is going, we have to change our vacation plans, etc. and give out money to him and his lazy family members. Why don't they get jobs. Since when Islam has taught us not to work and live off of somebody. The Prophet and his daughter worked hard, so did Maula Ali who ate suki rotli, and not rasgoolas.

[MOHD HUSSAIN]

Well -Guys- I just got an E-mail that Syedna is in Dubai on his way to Germany & then on to USA- Please contact IRS & FBI to stop his visit to USA- Please tell them about their money laundering activity & also getting those tax free dollars in the name of a CULT--IRS# 1-800-829-0433(Criminal Division) & go on to the GOVt web site to contact FBI where you can tip them about his arrival in USA--

[MOHD HUSSAIN]

Here is the sample of copy of letter to FBI-- YOu can modify as you want it---

Letter to FBI

Dear Sir/Madam : The Head of Dawoodi Bohra community-A Shia sect -Mr Mohammed Burhanuddin is trying to visit USA in near future-Let me inform you that this individual is just like one of the Ayatollah of IRAN or IRAQ who preaches the same brand of fundamentalism of hate and anti west propaganda in his sermons- His priests here in usa based in all big cities do the same- Please go to their web sites malumaat.com or mumineen.org &jamaats.mumineen.org -and you will see their propaganda machine & pictures-they are increasing their presence by building lots of mosques and buying real estate here in USA. They collect millions of dollars in gifts and religious taxes which are channeled into a so called nonprofitable trust called Dawat-e- Hadiyah of north America which is nothing but a tax avoidance scam the trust is wholly owned by the chief priest and it does not give any annual reports or accounting-they are also involved in money laundering in a big scale and fradulent procurement of visas for their priests thro india and pakistan embassies- Their brand of religion is a cult and not true Islam as practiced by other peace loving muslims- Please take necessory actions NOW to curb their activity so that it does not become a big future menace here in our peaceful country--Please deny their entry visas from the appropriate embassies in India & pakistan & launch a thorough investigation into their criminal activities- Thank you for your kind attention-

[Africawala]

Dear Mohd Hussain,

Why don't you, yourself, do this? You seem to know all the connections. You do not have to be in the USA to do this. And while you are at it, why don't you tell them that they also perform FGM on young girls. They did so when Syedna was in Houston for several days, in the back of the "cammp". Also, remind them how Syedna's Shehzada in Huston skipped town in the middle of the night to avoid "corruption" charges by the government against him. We are told that he is coming to the U.S. in two weeks. You don't have much time brother.

[humble_servant_us]

peace be uponu all...

who preaches the same brand of fundamentalism of hate and anti west propaganda in his sermons

Br. Mohd. Husain

I think the above quote is not correct becoz i don't think at any time Sayedna has delivered anti west sermons...Had he done this , this community wud have changed...we see a lot of cultural invasion frm west in our community...

I understand ur hatred towards sayedna/system/etc but u shud be careful frm using false allegations...

"The right path is distinct from the wrong"

[Masoom Sehrai]

I have just received a mail from an "abd-e-syedna" that Syedna is arriving in Houston on 25th July at 6 PM. I have not seen any official announcement, so please try to get a confirmation from other reliable sources.

[MOHD HUSSAIN]

Mr Africawala- Yes I have done my part- It is time now for everybody to chip in & write or call in FBI & us State dept- here is the Web addresses & you can type in or paste the copy of the letter that I have put in at this site--
http://contact-us.state.gov/ &
https://tips.fbi.gov/ Thank you all---Remember you must provide your name & E-mail address--

[MOHD HUSSAIN]

Here is the improved copy of the letter you want to send---



Dear Sir/Madam : The Head of Dawoodi Bohra community-A Shia sect -Mr Mohammed Burhanuddin is trying to visit USA in this july--Let me inform you that this individual is just like one of the Ayatollah of IRAN or IRAQ who preaches the same brand of fundamentalism of hate and anti west propaganda in his sermons- His priests here in usa based in all big cities do the same- Please go to their web sites malumaat.com or mumineen.org &jamaats.mumineen.org -and you will see their propaganda machine & pictures-they are increasing their presence by building lots of mosques and buying real estate here in USA. They collect millions of dollars in gifts and religious taxes which are channeled into a so called nonprofitable trust called Dawat-e- Hadiyah of north America which is nothing but a tax avoidance scam the trust is wholly owned by the chief priest and it does not give any annual reports or accounting-they are also involved in money laundering in a big scale and fradulent procurement of visas for their priests thro india and pakistan embassies- Their brand of religion is a cult and not true Islam as practiced by other peace loving muslims- Please take necessory actions NOW to curb their activity so that it does not become a big future menace here in our peaceful country--Please deny their entry visas from the appropriate embassies in India & pakistan & launch a thorough investigation into their criminal activities- Thank you for your kind attention- Sincerely-\ your name-(-P.S. It will be interesting to note that father of Mr Buhanuddin was caught smuggling diamonds in his turban at the Indian Airport not too long ago))

[Z]

Am sure Mr. Hussain has a legitimate objection to the Dai's visit, since he contributes so generously to the Dawat.

And how about disclosing to the tax authorities the tax evasion practices of Mr. Mohammed Hussain and family ...!? For consistency's sake!

[MOHD HUSSAIN]

Mr Z ;You can spit out any poison you want-This is not taking any vengeance but fighting for the corruption & dictatorship!

[WYP]

Originally posted by MOHD HUSSAIN:
Mr Z ;You can spit out any poison you want-This is not taking any vengeance but fighting for the corruption & dictatorship!

fighting for corruption & dictatorship? you should be the last comic standing! i'm composing a letter just like yours to NBC.

your letter to the fbi is just too funny, boss. habitual liars repeat the lies so many times that to them it seems like nothing but the truth. keep living in your fantasy world. dont forget to go to your markaz/masjid for free food.

[Z]

Of course, a principled man like MH would never fight for vengeance.....he fights for dictatorship by asking the FBI/IRS to create hindrances for his own fellow community members. Thats the way for reform...the progressive face of reform.

[Humsafar]

It's obvious that Mohd. Hussain meant he's against corruption and dictatorship. But it's typical of the "new-born bohra" mind to pick on little things. For court jesters like you who have prostituted their conscience to defend a petty and pathetic 'royal family' it pays to divert the attention from the main issue.

And the main issue is: Why is the Dai coming to the US (or goes anywhere else, for that matter)?

For any thinking person - orthodox or otherwise - who has even the slightest sense of reality the main reason is the money. This is so blatantly obvious and such common knowledge that to pretend otherwise you have to be either extremely stupid or be part of the racket.

What Mohd. Hussain and others like him are doing is alerting the authorities to this menace that keeps visiting them every few months/years. This menace may not affect you because either you are too stupid or too close to the action - but it is a problem for the rest of the 'subjects' who have more important priorities like paying mortgage, raising children, saving for their education etc. than giving away their hard-earned money for the upkeep of royal frat boys and girls.

Mohd. Hussain's letter and language may no be polished but, and this may never have occurred to you, it takes more moral sophistication to challenge a corrupt potentate than to be his boot-licking slave.

[SFA]

Humsafar,

A very good reply, indeed. Congratulations.

'Subjects' are sleeping.....!!!!! or having fun with all this tamasha .... but i wonder how do they manage paying so much and not asking for Hesab...??!!!! there must be something that we are missing. Or is it fear ..?? or they have developed this habit and desire for Jaman and so-called sermons..??

[Z]

If you think that by calling people names, twisting facts, etc and alerting the authorities, you are advancing the reformist agenda, then "stupid" people like me must salute your intelligence.

It is because of "intelligent" people like you, that the reformist community has managed to improve the lot of "dumb subjects" like myself.

[Humsafar]

I doubt very much that a few volunteer efforts to alert the authorities will in any way advance the reformist agenda, but it is a symbolic act and in a symbolic way it threatens the agenda of your masters.

And that agenda - which you refuse to address - is to "collect" tens of thousands of dollars from the community, and take it outside the country by deploying all kinds of tax-evading strategies. There are two issues here: one, the manner in which these funds are collected and two, the way they are expatriated. And, of course, there is always the paramount issue of what is done with those funds.

So let's address these, everything else is beside the point.

Oh yes, we're glad that you are becoming intelligent at our expense, but we'd have preferred if you became sensible. As for twisting facts, you once again betray your "new-born bohra" mentality: worried about little things while your faith, traditions and way of life is being twisted and distorted before your very eyes.

[MOHD HUSSAIN]

Thanks Br Humsafar for answering on my behalf- Yes i might be extremist in my technique but i am telling the truth & nothing but the truth about these corrupt thugs who go everywhere in the name of inuguration of mosques,imparting those fradulent titles and collect their millions from those innocents who dare not challenge them!

[WYP]

Originally posted by MOHD HUSSAIN:
Thanks Br Humsafar for answering on my behalf- Yes i might be extremist in my technique but i am telling the truth & nothing but the truth about these corrupt thugs who go everywhere in the name of inuguration of mosques,imparting those fradulent titles and collect their millions from those innocents who dare not challenge them!

Originally posted by MOHD HUSSAIN:
Let me inform you that this individual is just like one of the Ayatollah of IRAN or IRAQ who preaches the same brand of fundamentalism of hate and anti west propaganda in his sermons- His priests here in usa based in all big cities do the same

truth and nothing but the truth??

building lots of mosques...

total of 8 mosques in the US is a lot?

They collect millions of dollars in gifts and religious taxes which are channeled into a so called nonprofitable trust called Dawat-e- Hadiyah of north America which is nothing but a tax avoidance scam the trust is wholly owned by the chief priest and it does not give any annual reports or accounting-they are also involved in money laundering in a big scale and fradulent procurement of visas for their priests thro india and pakistan embassies

what drivel!! and you and your mates call this truth and nothing but the truth?? you know, if you have contributed even one cent to dawat-e-hadiyah,, why dont you file a lawsuit?

Their brand of religion is a cult and not true Islam as practiced by other peace loving muslims...

haha..so it was dawoodi bohras that crashed those airplanes into buildings, was it? finally you admit that our brand of religion is not the same as yours..so why are you still in it trying for reform? would you try to reform hindus and christians as well? to me its the same thing. you profess to have nothing in common with the way we do things and yet you clamor for reform.

It will be interesting to note that father of Mr Buhanuddin was caught smuggling diamonds in his turban at the Indian Airport not too long ago

you probably dreamed up this one last night, eh? 'not too long ago'..haha

[MOHD HUSSAIN]

WYP=May be you need to read the history & events that happened during the reign of Syedna Taher Saifuddin- He was caught in customs while returning from his trip to Sri Lanka & this news made headlines in Indian News papers- Blitz -if I recall--He has been also caught in Fast Africa and so he was barred for many years- He has preached Sunni hate rate in Bombay Vaezes so much as to incite the riots and then he had to apologise on TV - You want me to go on ? there are pages and pages of their crimes !If you want to keep your eyes& ears closed you will never know anything! My family has suffered enough under their tyranny so I know it first hand!

[WYP]

Originally posted by MOHD HUSSAIN:
WYP=May be you need to read the history & events that happened during the reign of Syedna Taher Saifuddin- He was caught in customs while returning from his trip to Sri Lanka & this news made headlines in Indian News papers- Blitz -if I recall--He has been also caught in Fast Africa and so he was barred for many years- He has preached Sunni hate rate in Bombay Vaezes so much as to incite the riots and then he had to apologise on TV - You want me to go on ? there are pages and pages of their crimes !If you want to keep your eyes& ears closed you will never know anything! My family has suffered enough under their tyranny so I know it first hand!

you dont need to teach me history, brother. just teach yourself some morality. EOD

[MOHD HUSSAIN]

WYP; What is bothering you? There is nothing immoral in what I am trying to accomplish -If you can tell me any good deeds done by them or any big charitable projects done by them - by their own money -let us know it!

[Average Bohra]

Mohd Hussain,

I understand and appreciate your sentiment, but the letter is emotional and not practical, and would be ineffective. Though I am no fan of the Dai, it would be a stretch to compare him to an Ayatollah in Iran. Bohras are not a violent community, don't carry arms, and are rather passive [to the point of being "wimpy"]. I don't consider them to be violently anti-west like the Wahabis, and they generally stay away from public political discourse. Additionally, being anti-west, or building mosques is not a crime in a democratic society [only in Saudi Arabia & some choice Islamic countries].

Just Follow the money. I am of the strong belief that this so-called royalty can only be brought down by following the money trail...you may recall that this [and only this] is what eventually led to Capone’s demise in the US.

I doubt he can be prosecuted in any other country including Europe.

[jinx]

Damn, the old man is coming to Houstan. I just heard the bad news.

Bet he will be flying First class again with his sons and relatives.

It seems there is going to be a circuss with mass wedding and all.

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[Mamluk-E-Syedna]

Burn, Dai Na Dushmano, Burn in the fire of jealosy.

Khuda Ni Laanat Dai Na Dushmano Upar.

Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin Saheb (TUS) Zindabad!

[SFA]

Mamlook,

You know only two things:

1. Lanat, Dai na dushmanoo par
2. Syedana ZindaBad

The other two things u know are:
a. Jaman
b. Matam

And thats the full circle fo your life. U know nothing, u think nothing, u say nothing .... u all are like 'creatures' following the Ranee Ant. And thats all about that. You all do not have vision - the world and people have always antied those who have dare to be different and have questioned the authority - but have eventually won ... all prophets, imams all were so different and worked on 'ideas' and 'thought' for the betterment. you all live in well so u all have no idea of ocean .....

But I will send my salams on you coz a Muslim will never send lanat on fellow Muslim or anything like that.

[SFA]

Jinx,

Have a wonderful time ........ lots of tamashas and fun, Jaman and Matam .... lot of Shahzadas and Shahzadees ... coming to ur town .... get the booking, get ready, rock-n-roll .....

[Average Bohra]

This is indeed a happy occasion, now let us all sing:

You’d better watch out, you’d better not cry
You better not pout, though I’m telling you why:
Santa Claus is coming to town
Santa Claus is coming to town
Santa Claus is coming to town

He’s making a list, he’s checking it twice
He’s gonna find out whose been naughty or nice

You’d better watch out, you’d better not cry
You better not pout, though I’m telling you why:
Santa Claus is coming to town
Santa Claus is coming to town
Santa Claus is coming to town

He sees when you are sleeping
And he knows when you’re awake
He knows if you’ve been bad or good
So be good for goodness sake

You’d better watch out, you’d better not cry
You better not pout, though I’m telling you why:
Santa Claus is coming to town
Santa Claus is coming to town
Santa Claus is coming to town

He sees when you are sleeping
And he knows when you’re awake
He knows if you’ve been bad or good
So be good for goodness sake

You’d better watch out, you’d better not cry
You better not pout, though I’m telling you why:
Santa Claus is coming to town
Santa Claus is coming to town
Santa Claus is coming to town