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Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

Unread postby Aymelek on Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:49 am

Currently there is a rumour going around in the Bohra circles of mumbai, that the followers of Mazoon Saheb are intending to form a new sect declaring the current Mazoon as Dai after Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin. The rumour also has it that the sources from within Saifee Mahal are spilling this news out. This is compounded by the fact that no one has heard Syedna saheb utter Nass in his own words in front of common bohras.

It is also said that the Saifee Mahal is in the name of Mazoon Saheb and he has asked for eviction of all bhaisahebs from the Mansoos's camp after Syedna. This is the reason why Bhindi Bazaar development is now catching up pace, as they want to create apartments for those bhaisahebs once the unfortunate event happens.

I dont know how far the above is true but it is catching fire amongst bohras.

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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

Unread postby Momin Mukhlis on Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:49 am

A fake news by an idiot user.

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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

Unread postby think on Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:40 am

common sense dictates that after the dai is the title of mazoon and mazoon should be the next dai.
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

Unread postby shabbir4u on Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:33 am

think wrote:common sense dictates that after the dai is the title of mazoon and mazoon should be the next dai.



Another fake stories !!!!
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

Unread postby ghulam muhammed on Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:35 pm

It is true that these sorts of rumours are the hot topic amongst bohras but the authenticity of such news is doubtful. It is also true that saifee mahal stands in the name of mazun and that there is a cold war going on between him and the dai's sons which has aggravated after the nass.
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

Unread postby shabbir4u on Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:35 pm

Aymelek wrote:Currently there is a rumour going around in the Bohra circles of mumbai, that the followers of Mazoon Saheb are intending to form a new sect declaring the current Mazoon as Dai after Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin. The rumour also has it that the sources from within Saifee Mahal are spilling this news out. This is compounded by the fact that no one has heard Syedna saheb utter Nass in his own words in front of common bohras.

It is also said that the Saifee Mahal is in the name of Mazoon Saheb and he has asked for eviction of all bhaisahebs from the Mansoos's camp after Syedna. This is the reason why Bhindi Bazaar development is now catching up pace, as they want to create apartments for those bhaisahebs once the unfortunate event happens.

I dont know how far the above is true but it is catching fire amongst bohras.

Pls dont spread fake stories.Aqa Maula utter nass in front of whole world.It happen in Raudat tahera. At that time Aqa Maula was not in good health.
Pls Dont Spread fake news.
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Unread postby Bori85 on Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:02 pm

Aymelek wrote:Currently there is a rumour going around in the Bohra circles of mumbai, that the followers of Mazoon Saheb are intending to form a new sect declaring the current Mazoon as Dai after Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin. The rumour also has it that the sources from within Saifee Mahal are spilling this news out. This is compounded by the fact that no one has heard Syedna saheb utter Nass in his own words in front of common bohras.

It is also said that the Saifee Mahal is in the name of Mazoon Saheb and he has asked for eviction of all bhaisahebs from the Mansoos's camp after Syedna. This is the reason why Bhindi Bazaar development is now catching up pace, as they want to create apartments for those bhaisahebs once the unfortunate event happens.

I dont know how far the above is true but it is catching fire amongst bohras.


Now this sounds interesting, as even I was wondering how come the Mazoon Saheb and his gangs, took this Nas to Muffadal Saheb as next Dai , so quietly? I too think that there is some truth in this "rumour". And if that is the case then we can all foresee the faith of DB community in the next 5-10 years. There will be so many factions in Kothar and all the wealth collected by Kothar will be divided between themselves , ofcourse with all the fights between themselves. "Jiske haath mein , uske moonh mein" situation will be there.

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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

Unread postby MM Bukhari on Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:32 pm

Aymelek wrote:Currently there is a rumour going around in the Bohra circles of mumbai, that the followers of Mazoon Saheb are intending to form a new sect declaring the current Mazoon as Dai after Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin. The rumour also has it that the sources from within Saifee Mahal are spilling this news out. This is compounded by the fact that no one has heard Syedna saheb utter Nass in his own words in front of common bohras.

It is also said that the Saifee Mahal is in the name of Mazoon Saheb and he has asked for eviction of all bhaisahebs from the Mansoos's camp after Syedna. This is the reason why Bhindi Bazaar development is now catching up pace, as they want to create apartments for those bhaisahebs once the unfortunate event happens.

I dont know how far the above is true but it is catching fire amongst bohras.


I really wish this news is true, and all fat tummy amils from saifi mahal are kicked out in jhopad patti of dharawi....actually thats the place they beelong too....

any ways I dont see any spiritual quality in mufaddal bs, so my vote goes to mazun bhai saheb....

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Unread postby MM Bukhari on Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:34 pm

now it will be interesting to see, who will get all this properties including masjids and dargahs.....
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

Unread postby MM Bukhari on Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:36 pm

shabbir4u wrote:
Aymelek wrote:Currently there is a rumour going around in the Bohra circles of mumbai, that the followers of Mazoon Saheb are intending to form a new sect declaring the current Mazoon as Dai after Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin. The rumour also has it that the sources from within Saifee Mahal are spilling this news out. This is compounded by the fact that no one has heard Syedna saheb utter Nass in his own words in front of common bohras.

It is also said that the Saifee Mahal is in the name of Mazoon Saheb and he has asked for eviction of all bhaisahebs from the Mansoos's camp after Syedna. This is the reason why Bhindi Bazaar development is now catching up pace, as they want to create apartments for those bhaisahebs once the unfortunate event happens.

I dont know how far the above is true but it is catching fire amongst bohras.

Pls dont spread fake stories.Aqa Maula utter nass in front of whole world.It happen in Raudat tahera. At that time Aqa Maula was not in good health.
Pls Dont Spread fake news.
AT present Mazoom saheb is in US. (Chicago)


really he UTTER nass? when?

I have not heard a word from syedna Muhamed burhanuddin, after or before the nass.
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

Unread postby MM Bukhari on Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:36 pm

its a fortunate thing that they dont have any recordings of syedna muhammed burhanuddin uttering nass, or else they would have played it after every namaaz.

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Unread postby humanbeing on Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:53 am

Can anyone put the date / place / venue of nass when it was pronounced ?
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

Unread postby MM Bukhari on Mon Oct 15, 2012 1:14 am

this new fellow is just trying to attract attention by organizing dabba schemes and maraaz and shiits, just to fumble people from the real issue of nass and ISLAAM.
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

Unread postby asad on Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:50 am

humanbeing wrote:Can anyone put the date / place / venue of nass when it was pronounced ?


4th rajab in London hospital in front of Syedna's sons and than on 17th Rajab in Sehan of Raudat Tahera which was relayed world wide.
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

Unread postby MM Bukhari on Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:58 am

asad wrote:
humanbeing wrote:Can anyone put the date / place / venue of nass when it was pronounced ?


4th rajab in London hospital in front of Syedna's sons and than on 17th Rajab in Sehan of Raudat Tahera which was relayed world wide.

did 52nd dai uttered a world, while it was world wide relay?

infact he looked like he was given heavy dose of medicine to keep him unconscious about what is realy happening.
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

Unread postby asad on Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:18 am

MM Bukhari wrote:
asad wrote:
humanbeing wrote:Can anyone put the date / place / venue of nass when it was pronounced ?


4th rajab in London hospital in front of Syedna's sons and than on 17th Rajab in Sehan of Raudat Tahera which was relayed world wide.

did 52nd dai uttered a world, while it was world wide relay?

infact he looked like he was given heavy dose of medicine to keep him unconscious about what is realy happening.


Syedna has not uttered much after the stroke last year. Sometimes he looks conscious but that too in very short spells. I have seen him instructing to do matam when some Madeh was being recited by Qaid johar for his Bday. In the nass proclamation done in front of crowd on 17th Rajab he was not able to speak properly he was just mumbling and his son in law read out the material, he was so out of sync that he said nass is being done on bhai Burhanuddin and than his son in law Moiz corrected it.

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Unread postby mnoorani on Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:08 am

If such an issue is there than Mazoon Saaheb is very smart, he will not rake up the issue when HH is alive. The fact is that nobody has contested the nass as yet. So it is widely accepted. Do not forget that Mazoon lost his chances of Daiship with his liasons with Nafisa Ali. Plus there is also a secret affair with Mumtaz ,that only the family knows about and leaks it when necessary. Wealthwise , he is amongst the richest . And the zaadas will probably buy off SM from him.
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Unread postby MM Bukhari on Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:26 am

I dont know what actually happened and why it happened, but I think sir Muhammed Burhanuddin shud have declared his successor while back when he was quite healthy and was able to speak.
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Unread postby MM Bukhari on Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:28 am

I cant believe that even in this age when information is so easy to pass on and communication is so frequent, yet things went wrong and people are fooling mass.
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Unread postby ghulam muhammed on Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:21 pm

asad wrote:he was so out of sync that he said nass is being done on bhai Burhanuddin and than his son in law Moiz corrected it.

God knows how many more proofs the abdes will need to acertain that "Dais are NOT masum", when such an important announcement can be fumbled up then what can one expect of this dai ?

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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

Unread postby asad on Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:37 am

I sincierly pray for a new schism in dawat, May Allah fragment Kothar, as internal fighting can only save Bohras from their clutches. I sympathise with people who dont want to see any more divisions but please understand that this status quo is killing the community.

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Unread postby JC on Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:16 pm

I will go with the NEW faction, no questions asked....
And then I will go with yet another faction, no questions asked .......
And one day, some day, soon ......... there will be no Shirk and Bidat .........
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Unread postby level_headed on Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:46 pm

Syedna Taher Saifuddin Milaad & Maqdam Majlis 1433

26 Zilqadatil Haram, 1433

Burhani Masjid, Singapore, Singapore


On 26 Zilqad al-Haram 1433 (11 October 2012), on the joyous occasion of Syedna Taher Saifuddin's (RA) Milaad Raat, Syedi Mazoon Saheb Khuzaima Bhaisaheb Qutbuddin Saheb led Maghrib/Isha namaaz in Burhani Masjid.

This was followed by milaad majlis. Majlis started with the tilawaat of Quran-e-majeed by Janab Aziz Bhaisaheb, farzand of Syedi Mazoon Saheb. Qasida Mubaraka written by Syedna Taher Saifuddin (RA) as well as one written by Aqa Maula (TUS) were recited. A Qasida written by Syedi Mazoon Saheb in the shaan of Syedna Taher Saifuddin (RA) was also recited. An audio recording of Aqa Maula's (TUS) bayaan and Mufaddal Maula's (TUS) bayaan was played.

Wadhawanu rasam was then performed. Members of Anjuman-e-Burhani (Singapore) did araz of khair maqdam to Syedi Mazoon Saheb, and Syedi Mazoon Saheb did doa for Aqa Maula's (TUS) and Mufaddal Maula's (TUS) longevity, and also for all mumineen.

Syedi Mazoon Saheb then granted all mumineen, mumenaat and farzando the sharaf of Qadambosi.

Salawaat Jaman was served.

May Allah Ta'ala grant Syedi Mazoon Saheb a long and healthy life in khidmat of Huzurala (TUS).

May Allah Ta'ala grant our Aqa Maula (TUS) a long and healthy life till qayamat, and grant His Mansoos, Syedi Mufaddal Bhaisaheb Saifuddin (TUS) a long and healthy life under the saya mubarak of Huzurala (TUS).
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

Unread postby level_headed on Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:47 pm

ab kya karoge .. yeh rumor to quash ho gaya
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

Unread postby Bori85 on Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:11 pm

level_headed wrote:ab kya karoge .. yeh rumor to quash ho gaya


Mr. Level headed,

Yeh rumour "quash" ho gayaa, and to prove that you have portrayed the event happened in Singapore jamat, Arre, this is all just to show to public their unity. There is too much going on behind the close doors of Saifee Mahal, yeh to "Haathi ke daant hai, dikhaane ke aur, khaane ke aur". Ofcourse he (Mazoon Saheb) will behave all goody goody in front of public, nobody wants to wash their dirty linens in public. This behaviour of him is just s like the DB's who are seeing everything that is going wrong in the community and don't agree with those things, but still saying "Ghanu Jeevo........: in front of other DB's , because of XYZ reasons. I am sure Mazoon Saheb's also has his reasons for showing his "true" love towards Dai and the future Dai to be.
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Unread postby Bori85 on Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:22 pm

shabbir4u wrote:
Aymelek wrote:Currently there is a rumour going around in the Bohra circles of mumbai, that the followers of Mazoon Saheb are intending to form a new sect declaring the current Mazoon as Dai after Syedna Mohammed Burhanuddin. The rumour also has it that the sources from within Saifee Mahal are spilling this news out. This is compounded by the fact that no one has heard Syedna saheb utter Nass in his own words in front of common bohras.

It is also said that the Saifee Mahal is in the name of Mazoon Saheb and he has asked for eviction of all bhaisahebs from the Mansoos's camp after Syedna. This is the reason why Bhindi Bazaar development is now catching up pace, as they want to create apartments for those bhaisahebs once the unfortunate event happens.

I dont know how far the above is true but it is catching fire amongst bohras.

Pls dont spread fake stories.Aqa Maula utter nass in front of whole world.It happen in Raudat tahera. At that time Aqa Maula was not in good health.
Pls Dont Spread fake news.
AT present Mazoom saheb is in US. (Chicago)



why are you so scared, and requesting the people on this forum to not spread this stories ,whether it's true or not, it seems there is something fishy here, Maula was not in good health, he was brought in Raudat Tahera and made to repeat words written on a paper by his sons and son in law and that too , he didn't say the words properly ( as it seemed he was heavily sedated) , he didn't even knew what was going on, and the public was told , that see , Aqa Maula has done nas to Muffadal maula, and the public accepted , just like they do accept every word said by Kothar. This all "Nas" drama was created in front of our eyes, and captured in cameras, but still dawoodi bohra's are being blind about all this.
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

Unread postby Maqbool on Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:30 am

level_headed wrote:ab kya karoge .. yeh rumor to quash ho gaya

What ever it is but one thing is clear that Sayedna has not proclaimed any nuss in public and no one from DB has produced any proof in the format of video.

Even the nuss performed in the night in the presence of family members, was after sayedna suffered a stroke of paralyses. In this state how can a person proclaimed the nuss? This all leads that some thing fishy is cooked up!
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Unread postby level_headed on Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:58 am

Tamney su laagey valgey chhe - nass public ma thayee ke nahin. Aa Burhanuddin Maula ne to khulley aam nass thayee hathi ne. Tame kaya Burhanuddin Maula ne maana chhe. Every step of the way tamey logo ye mukhalifat kidhi chhe.
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

Unread postby mnoorani on Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:34 am

level_headed wrote:Tamney su laagey valgey chhe - nass public ma thayee ke nahin. Aa Burhanuddin Maula ne to khulley aam nass thayee hathi ne. Tame kaya Burhanuddin Maula ne maana chhe. Every step of the way tamey logo ye mukhalifat kidhi chhe.


Agar nass public ma thai che toh,video dikhawo. Sayedna to hosh ma bhi nahin hota aap ni bimari karan.
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Re: Dawoodi Qutbi Bohras - The New Rumour

Unread postby fearAllah on Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:41 am

level_headed wrote:Tamney su laagey valgey chhe - nass public ma thayee ke nahin. Aa Burhanuddin Maula ne to khulley aam nass thayee hathi ne. Tame kaya Burhanuddin Maula ne maana chhe. Every step of the way tamey logo ye mukhalifat kidhi chhe.


If Nass was done on baby muffy then what is the role of maazun saheb in the daawat?

If Muffy was supposed to be the 53rd Dai then he would have been in the Maazun post all these years....

If you want to know the history and role of Maazun in the dawat go and approach your fellow pagans Adam or Proggy, they will give you the insight otherwise just to give u a little hint, burhanuddin was the maazun during Taher Saifuddin era, then he became dai after his death...

So according to the above theory....who is the 53rd Dai?
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