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SBM
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IS THIS FOR REAL

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Unread post by SBM » Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:53 pm

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Now according to this FATWA one can go with Dai for Ziyarat of Imam Hussain and get equal to 100 Hajj Sawab and kiss Raudat Tahera and that is equal to kissing Hajar E Aswad
While Aga Khanis are coming to True Islam, The Kothari Goons are taking Abdes away from True Islam what a shame



ghulam muhammed
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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:58 pm

Kissing the Dai's feet will add some more sawabs, kissing the mansoos' and the 1000 plus zaadas feet some more. The day is not far when the Dai's palkhi will be auctioned for a few crores and kissing the palkhi will entitle the abdes of sawab as equal to hajar-e-aswad.



Al Zulfiqar
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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:19 pm

bhai sbm,

dawoodi abde bohra ties with islam are already quite tenous. they are just barely hanging by a thread when they claim to be muslims.

a time will come soon, when they will drift so far away from the core principles of islam, that they will be declared as apostates and kafirs by the rest of the muslim world.

no matter how hard the SAAFIYA (saifee mahal mafia) try to hide their dirty secrets and sweep their dirt under the carpet, enforced through fatwas, threats and pressure tactics, they will be exposed and will suffer the consequences.

allah ke ghar mein deir hai, andher nahi hai....



khudaparast
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Unread post by khudaparast » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:29 pm

I am sure mb is not even aware of any such fatwas from his side, he is just busy touching shawl and nodding his head for every thing.....


unless people wake up by there own, no one can help them, wallah ho alammm....



SBM
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Unread post by SBM » Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:23 pm

Adam and Progticide
How about replying to this Farmaan and answering the question
IS GOING TO KARBALA IS EQUAL TO 100 HAJJ and can you provide any documented proof to that thru your Taawil Knowledge



Al Zulfiqar
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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:47 pm

SBM wrote:Adam and Progticide
How about replying to this Farmaan and answering the question
IS GOING TO KARBALA IS EQUAL TO 100 HAJJ and can you provide any documented proof to that thru your Taawil Knowledge
bhai sbm,

acoording to both these respectful brothers of "kamzarf o munafiq" fame, the proof is by default. if such a farmaan has been issued in syedna's name, then syedna = Imam = nabi = allah.

how dare you question allah himself? asking for proof from scriptures is futile and unnecessary. it betrays your weak imaan and aqeeda.

please repent by going to khandala and throwing a lavish ziyafat with 52,000 USD salaam.

aey, aatey kya khandala?



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Unread post by progticide » Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:45 am

SBM wrote:Adam and Progticide
How about replying to this Farmaan and answering the question
IS GOING TO KARBALA IS EQUAL TO 100 HAJJ and can you provide any documented proof to that thru your Taawil Knowledge
Kamzarf Mushriq o Munafiq,
You are not only an enemy of Duat Aale Mohammed, but also an enemy of the Ahle Bayt and Panjatan Pak (AS).

And probably that is the reason why Allah Almighty has made you blind so that you cant see thing right in front of you.

Read the second line of the document. It says "Rasulallah (SAWW) farmave chhe".

What more documentary proof you are asking? You are questioning the truthfulness of Rasulallah(SAWW). Nauzobillah.


Indeed, you are a Mushriq and Munafiq.

Read Holy Quran, Surah Al Ahzab, Ayat 57 [Holy Quran 33:57]



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Unread post by asad » Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:11 am

progticide wrote:
SBM wrote:Adam and Progticide
How about replying to this Farmaan and answering the question
IS GOING TO KARBALA IS EQUAL TO 100 HAJJ and can you provide any documented proof to that thru your Taawil Knowledge
Kamzarf Mushriq o Munafiq,
You are not only an enemy of Duat Aale Mohammed, but also an enemy of the Ahle Bayt and Panjatan Pak (AS).

And probably that is the reason why Allah Almighty has made you blind so that you cant see thing right in front of you.

Read the second line of the document. It says "Rasulallah (SAWW) farmave chhe".

What more documentary proof you are asking? You are questioning the truthfulness of Rasulallah(SAWW). Nauzobillah.


Indeed, you are a Mushriq and Munafiq.

Read Holy Quran, Surah Al Ahzab, Ayat 57 [Holy Quran 33:57]
Progticide,

can you please ask Adam to quote this hadeeth with reference from authentic books.



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Unread post by mnoorani » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:08 am

[Kamzarf Mushriq o Munafiq,
You are not only an enemy of Duat Aale Mohammed, but also an enemy of the Ahle Bayt and Panjatan Pak (AS
).
By instructing the violent attack with weapons in the Udaipur mosque on fellow worshippers and that also on the Shahadat Day of Maula Ali proves that the kothar has drifted away from the love and respect of AALE MUHAMMED. So this will prove to you who is the actual enemy of Panjatan Paak.



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Unread post by progticide » Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:57 am

asad wrote:
progticide wrote: Kamzarf Mushriq o Munafiq,
You are not only an enemy of Duat Aale Mohammed, but also an enemy of the Ahle Bayt and Panjatan Pak (AS).

And probably that is the reason why Allah Almighty has made you blind so that you cant see thing right in front of you.

Read the second line of the document. It says "Rasulallah (SAWW) farmave chhe".

What more documentary proof you are asking? You are questioning the truthfulness of Rasulallah(SAWW). Nauzobillah.


Indeed, you are a Mushriq and Munafiq.

Read Holy Quran, Surah Al Ahzab, Ayat 57 [Holy Quran 33:57]
Progticide,

can you please ask Adam to quote this hadeeth with reference from authentic books.
Kamzarf Munafiq,
Why dont you first go and check with your Maulvis about this hadith? Or is it that your Maulvis have not even studied the Ahadith books that your master Ahmak stole from Jamea libraries? Or is it that he decided not to leave these ahadith books and fatimi literature with your Maulvis because he found them not worthy enough to receive this knowledge and learning?

The way you reformists/progressives plead and urge DBs on this forum to provide you with references to books and literature shows how intellectually bankrupt and religiously ignorant you reformists/progressives have become.



mnoorani
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Re: IS THIS FOR REALS

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Unread post by mnoorani » Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:53 am

"Kamzarf Munafiq,
Why dont you first go and check with your Maulvis about this hadith? Or is it that your Maulvis have not even studied the Ahadith books that your master Ahmak stole from Jamea libraries? Or is it that he decided not to leave these ahadith books and fatimi literature with your Maulvis because he found them not worthy enough to receive this knowledge and learning?

The way you reformists/progressives plead and urge DBs on this forum to provide you with references to books and literature shows how intellectually bankrupt and religiously ignorant you reformists/progressives have become.
These same people that you claim to be intelectually bankrupt, are now living in the life of luxuries illgotten at a time when there are poor mumins living in Ahmedabad. This is what the ummayyads did. They looted their own people and let them suffer , all in the name of religion. And these same progressives have the decency to let a lady do her job, even if it is as humble as being an air hostess. :wink:



Adam
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Unread post by Adam » Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:54 pm

A simple google of this Hadith Shareef would've answered your questions on references:
يا جابر زر قبر أبني الحسين فإن زيارته تعدل مائة حجة

But, instead the opposition barks at everything that comes their way.
It just comes to reflect total arrogance and ignorance. Lost sheep.



Al Zulfiqar
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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:20 pm

it seems that the phrase "kamzarf mushriq o munafiq' has become the takiya kalam of progticide.

maybe he was asked to do tasbeeh of this phrase 1000 thousand times a day by his slave masters at sabaks. now habituated to it, he probably uses it when waking up, when going to bed, when entering the toilet, when having a shower, before eating food and after niyyat for namaaz.

in a curious twist, the great (pseudo) scholar adam and his sidekick sancho panza progticide, decry the reformist minded when they ask for proof from these 2 rascals, calling them religiously ignorant, intellectually bankrupt and arrogant, when these two wily politicians used exactly the same tactics against the reformists not too long ago! so what happened adam, were you "religiously ignorant, intellectually bankrupt and arrogant" then?




Adam
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Unread post by Adam » Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:10 am

Adam wrote:A simple google of this Hadith Shareef would've answered your questions on references:
يا جابر زر قبر أبني الحسين فإن زيارته تعدل مائة حجة

But, instead the opposition barks at everything that comes their way.
It just comes to reflect total arrogance and ignorance. Lost sheep.



asad
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Unread post by asad » Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:22 am

Adam wrote:A simple google of this Hadith Shareef would've answered your questions on references:
يا جابر زر قبر أبني الحسين فإن زيارته تعدل مائة حجة

But, instead the opposition barks at everything that comes their way.
It just comes to reflect total arrogance and ignorance. Lost sheep.
Thanks for Hadeeth in Arabic, can you please quote the reference from Fatimid literature



mnoorani
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Unread post by mnoorani » Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:42 am

Adam wrote:A simple google of this Hadith Shareef would've answered your questions on references:
يا جابر زر قبر أبني الحسين فإن زيارته تعدل مائة حجة

But, instead the opposition barks at everything that comes their way.
It just comes to reflect total arrogance and ignorance. Lost sheep.
Dear ADAM
Why dont you quote any hadees that endorses the extravagant live style of the Dai , at a time when the economic downturn has rendered many helpless and many mumins are without decent jobs. State a hadees that allows for the decoration of mazaars with gold and silver where at a time a sick mumin cannot afford to pay for basic medical needs.



Bohra spring
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Re: IS THIS FOR REALS

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Unread post by Bohra spring » Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:08 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote:Kissing the Dai's feet will add some more sawabs, kissing the mansoos' and the 1000 plus zaadas feet some more. The day is not far when the Dai's palkhi will be auctioned for a few crores and kissing the palkhi will entitle the abdes of sawab as equal to hajar-e-aswad.
How much sawab for kissing the hand of an air hostess who stole the smile :) ...

Progticide...puss puss ! Come try to bite :twisted:



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Unread post by askz » Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:03 pm

ghulam muhammed wrote:Kissing the Dai's feet will add some more sawabs, kissing the mansoos' and the 1000 plus zaadas feet some more. The day is not far when the Dai's palkhi will be auctioned for a few crores and kissing the palkhi will entitle the abdes of sawab as equal to hajar-e-aswad.
well spoken GM brother, lage raho........ :wink: :D