Dawoodi Bohra Forum

By the way a friend of mine recently bought the book "Merchant Princes Of East Africa" from the University of Chicago, and gave it to me. It is a great study book about entrepreneurship. It is wonderfully written. I felt proud to have grown up knowing them and benefitted from their help. It is when I learnt about how our Syedna was making our Jamaat turn against such a great benefactor of the community( I was only 19 then) that I realized there was something seriously wrong with our Jamaat leaders and our people too. We have lost our back bone it seems. Remember, this was the time around the Zanzibar revolution and Tanzanian African Socialism when people were panicked and needed help. We had lost our jobs, our homes, our businesses, schools and our kids had no future in site. The Ismaili's Aga Khan was able to arrange a mass exodus for his people to all over the world.Of course there was no help coming from the Kothar; in fact the kothar was taking money out of East Africa.

and today this so called dawat reaps fruits of plants sown by adamji..........

We received this email message:
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Message: In our city of bhavnagar this moharam our jumat commiittee hastaken charge from women to sit in waaz...they have charge normally but then also thry dont have any rights to take money for spaces in masjid for waaz....i have complain about this..please help me how to teach them a lesson...

here is a jist of what each and every bohra mumineen needs to know.
censorship is most effective when no one admits it exists. The first step to freeing yourself from oppressive power is to find the courage to admit you are a fraid. The more people confess to being afraid, the less reason there is to fear and easier it is to isolate repressive forces.

Admin wrote:We received this email message:
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Message: In our city of bhavnagar this moharam our jumat commiittee hastaken charge from women to sit in waaz...they have charge normally but then also thry dont have any rights to take money for spaces in masjid for waaz....i have complain about this..please help me how to teach them a lesson...

Easy, don't pay the charge. An empty masjid will teach them a good lesson.

you do not need waez of an amil that just flatters the dai to shed a few tears on Imam hussain and neither do you need a often repeated sing song of ghano jivo or to listen to another deceptive scheme to con you out of your money. simplicity is best. It is apparent you do not like what you see is going on. your conscience says it is wrong to ask money by the goonda committee of bhavnagar for you to shed a few tears on Imam Hussain. Be Brave. Hussain is with you. your thinking is right. do not attend such money making masjids and also request your friends and family to do the same.

its not about the amount of money, its the question why money is charged on first place?

millions visits mecca every year, do they charge some money to be in first place near Baitullah?

so giving excuse of crowding is not a valid reason at all.

FMHASSANALI wrote:By the way a friend of mine recently bought the book "Merchant Princes Of East Africa" from the University of Chicago, and gave it to me. It is a great study book about entrepreneurship. It is wonderfully written. I felt proud to have grown up knowing them and benefitted from their help. It is when I learnt about how our Syedna was making our Jamaat turn against such a great benefactor of the community( I was only 19 then) that I realized there was something seriously wrong with our Jamaat leaders and our people too. We have lost our back bone it seems. Remember, this was the time around the Zanzibar revolution and Tanzanian African Socialism when people were panicked and needed help. We had lost our jobs, our homes, our businesses, schools and our kids had no future in site. The Ismaili's Aga Khan was able to arrange a mass exodus for his people to all over the world.Of course there was no help coming from the Kothar; in fact the kothar was taking money out of East Africa.

Bohra folks were even blamed '...ilokano akido sacho notto..' that is why qayamat befell them.

Admin wrote:We received this email message:
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Message: In our city of bhavnagar this moharam our jumat commiittee hastaken charge from women to sit in waaz...they have charge normally but then also thry dont have any rights to take money for spaces in masjid for waaz....i have complain about this..please help me how to teach them a lesson...

We wrote to this person to tell the women not to pay and refuse to go to masjid. In response, he writes back:
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Sir thank you for ur reply...
But nobody will listen of mine or of anyother persons....they are mad behind this...if i will say this to the people then they will say that u r mad...y u are doing this all...dont do this...n bla bla...so i want to take a strick action against all because all the members of our jummat comitttee are doing this again and again...so please give me some other way to teach them a lesson

Short of a cane to whip everyone in line, there is nothing "strick" that this person can do. He needs to know that there is no easy way. He should set an example by himself refusing to pay for him and for the women in his family. Then he should take his family and sit outside the masjid on a "chaddar" so that people can see that he is fighting against the tyranny. When people see someone taking the first step, they will start following.

not alone brother bhavnagar, not alone in this time and age. a chadar in front of bohra masjid and with your family. we do not need another udaipur. Do what Rasool would do. talk to people who you think may liten to your sensibility. turn even a few if you can to see your point of view and then may be it might make sense to a sensible few. Be careful who you talk to; kothar has inside informants and goondas everywhere.

I know this happens a lot and mostly with poor guys in community, I try really hard to get some moron to get me to some thing like this, but unfortunately it never happens, even while my nikah Amil was so cool and didnt asked any thing more, if he would have, I would have shown him stars in day light.

but any ways I will keep looking for some guy who come across me and demand some thing like this, and I will make sure he wont be in condition to ask again to any one else.

Email message:
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Subject: buying a shop in Al Mufaddal shopping Mall noor baug
Message: pls forward us the details for the above

Ask him to send the check to

c/o anajmi @ www.dawoodi-bohras.com

Email message:
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Subject: urgent bhoras problem!
Message: dear representative of bhora jamaat,
one of your member have taken big amount of money from me and not paying back.. his name Huzaifa E.... he has taken money from many people in madagascar... please kindly advise him to give back whatever he has taken from us.. before this story goes too far!!
thanks

There is no need for threat. If huzaifa is at fault then ; since you are on this site which is read all over the world , state your case openly so others take heed from your experience with huzaifa.

Beat the shiit out of him

Castrate him.

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Subject: Karbala
Message: I would like to inform u regarding Karbala Ziyarat one my friends mother above 60years old she never go Karbala Ziyarat if ur snd her m very greatfull to u Regards Thanks

Since the bohras are coming on this site with these complaints is it possible for this web site to go a step further and set up a complaints form which can then be submitted to the proper authorities? So for eg. if there is a problem with someone in Madagascar, then we can have a section where there would be a form that can be filled up for the Madagascar authorities (if the Madagascar authorities provide such a capability) with the proper details and submitted online. Same thing for other nations from where this site has been receiving these complaints.

We received this email:
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Subject: raza
Message: raza levi che ghar ma purse and imitation nu buisness karvo che ana vaste any name pan jove che please

Admin wrote:We received this email:
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Subject: raza
Message: raza levi che ghar ma purse and imitation nu buisness karvo che ana vaste any name pan jove che please

he/she has my raza now....
Name suggested is "Fancy Purse House"

and NO I dont charge any thing for my raza.

best of luck

Admin wrote:raza levi che ghar ma purse and imitation nu buisness karvo che

The Dai's reply will be :- Raza che but purse tamari ane ena andar no maal maaro

ghulam muhammed wrote:

Admin wrote:raza levi che ghar ma purse and imitation nu buisness karvo che

The Dai's reply will be :- Raza che but purse tamari ane ena andar no maal maaro

hahahaha

We received this email:
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Subject: I want to join you
Message: dear all as you know many things going wrong through out of world in bohra community specially in Ujjain and belonging I am also against of lots of burden which through on community by high priest and there family. I want your support here in Ujjain

SPECIAL PROBLEMS FROM MAFIA CLERGY NOT ONLY IN UJAIN BUT EVERYWHERE THEY ARE.

Here's an email we received. We can provide the email address of the person to those willing to help. Thanks.
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Subject: Require School Fees for my Children's
Message: I stay on rent in bhayandar, earning is very less. Hence require fees for my both childrens. Pls do the needful asap.

Another email. We have the name email address and phone number of the sender, in case you want to help.
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Subject: mavasaat
Message: me ...... indore husani mohlla ma rahu chu jamaat si ghanu pareshaan chu 5200 rupya niyaz na che ane sabeel na 200 rupya che jamaat na member ane amil saheb kam nathi karta mari amdani 5000 rupya che ghar ma mari maa beva che aap logo mari madad karo.

Admin wrote:Another email. We have the name email address and phone number of the sender, in case you want to help.
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Subject: mavasaat
Message: me ...... indore husani mohlla ma rahu chu jamaat si ghanu pareshaan chu 5200 rupya niyaz na che ane sabeel na 200 rupya che jamaat na member ane amil saheb kam nathi karta mari amdani 5000 rupya che ghar ma mari maa beva che aap logo mari madad karo.

Kindly email him back to stop 5200 rs niyaaz, even I know personally so many people who pays 2500-3000 for dabba while their income is like just 5-6000.

so what is left with them?

watsup msg :-

This child, Abdul Qadir needs urgent financial help. He is about to lose both his hands due to an electric shock and is admitted in Masina Hospital, Byculla, Mumbai. Please forward this message to all and help the child.

Please contact Rukhsana Shabbir Lokhandwala on cell no.9892176859 for further details and help.

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