Traitors of Islam

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id99
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Traitors of Islam

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Unread post by id99 » Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:12 pm

Special Quotations to describe Shahzadas, Aamils, Jamaat Secretaries & Fanatics.

He is a Traitor who uses the QURAN as a threat to extract money
--a Hypocrite who uses the PANJATAN as a sword
-- a Wolf disguised in a lamb’s skin
-- a Glutton who adores his “Thaals” more than the Masjid
-- a Gold hungry creature who runs after the rolling coin to the farthest land
-- a Cheat who pilfers from Widows and Orphans.
He is a Monstrous being with an Eagle’s eye, a Tiger’s claws, a Hyena’s teeth and a Viper’s fangs

The Heads of Religion in this greedy world are not satisfied with their own munificence, but they must strive to make all members of their families SUPERIORS and OPPRESSORS.

The Glory of a King goes to his eldest son by inheritance, but the exaltation of a religious head is contagious among his Brothers & Nephews.

Thus the Christian bishop, the Muslim Imam and the Brahmin priest become like SEA REPTILES who clutch their prey with many tentacles and Suck their Blood with numerous mouths.

They preach to their followers “ LIVE like ALI and DIE like HUSAIN”, yet they adorn themselves in the best of fineries—jewellery studded with diamonds, rubies & emeralds, clothes from the choicest boutiques and homes equipped with the best of facilities and amenities.
They eat out of the Special Thaals laid out for them and journey to the farthest of lands by trampling on the lives of the poor, widows and orphans.

Is this the way Maulana Ali and Maulana Husain lived???

IS THIS THE ISLAM GOD WANTED US TO FOLLOW.
DID THE PANJATAN PAAK TEACH US THESE SATANIC WAYS.

Humsafar
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Re: Traitors of Islam

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Unread post by Humsafar » Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:24 pm

Agreed. Welcome to the Forum id99.

Al Zulfiqar
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Re: Traitors of Islam

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Unread post by Al Zulfiqar » Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:22 pm

welcome id99 to the forum. hope you will be around for a long time.

everyone knows that our clergy and all clergy love being put up on a pedestal, pampered and glorified, treated like VIP's and the higher their rank, the more arrogance and holier-than-thou attitude they display.

in every jamaat, the amil and his family act as if they are way above the hoi-polloi. their thaal has to be different, their crockery, cutlery, their safra and kundli everything has to be different and superior. a well-trained chamcha waits for them alone with folded hands, ready to obey their every wish, at their beck and call. bhai thandu lavo, bhai limbu lavo, biji murghi, tiji icecream, biryani ma extra gosht lavo, phalanu ane dhiknu lavo etc. garmi ghani chee, ek moto fan lagado and so on. as a volunteer i have seen panic in the kitchens when the amil or his wife has to be served or some special demand is made. the way the slaves scramble, as if they will be skinned alive if they incur the amil's wrath. they are served in an air-conditioned room, the amil has to have a special bichanu and pillows for his delicate back, his wife acts like a delicate fairy.

the amil's sons and daughters bark out their orders as if the host is an idiot. when i was a volunteer in poona jamaat, the tyrant amil abdeali's son expects his coke literally as cold as frozen, every glass of sherbet he drinks has to have chunks of ice in it. in fact at the amil's thaal 1-2 crates of assorted drinks have to be stationed so that they are not lacking in any variety. the amil's thaal with his son and his crony of shaikhs has to have the biggest and choicest portions, second and third helpings, even special dishes made for them which are only served in his thaal and to no one else. its pitiable seeing the way our servile abdes behave. its we who have spoilt them and its we, who as bhai insaf has mentioned, can put them in their place.

zinger
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Re: Traitors of Islam

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Unread post by zinger » Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:55 am

Al Zulfiqar wrote:welcome id99 to the forum. hope you will be around for a long time.

everyone knows that our clergy and all clergy love being put up on a pedestal, pampered and glorified, treated like VIP's and the higher their rank, the more arrogance and holier-than-thou attitude they display.

in every jamaat, the amil and his family act as if they are way above the hoi-polloi. their thaal has to be different, their crockery, cutlery, their safra and kundli everything has to be different and superior. a well-trained chamcha waits for them alone with folded hands, ready to obey their every wish, at their beck and call. bhai thandu lavo, bhai limbu lavo, biji murghi, tiji icecream, biryani ma extra gosht lavo, phalanu ane dhiknu lavo etc. garmi ghani chee, ek moto fan lagado and so on. as a volunteer i have seen panic in the kitchens when the amil or his wife has to be served or some special demand is made. the way the slaves scramble, as if they will be skinned alive if they incur the amil's wrath. they are served in an air-conditioned room, the amil has to have a special bichanu and pillows for his delicate back, his wife acts like a delicate fairy.

the amil's sons and daughters bark out their orders as if the host is an idiot. when i was a volunteer in poona jamaat, the tyrant amil abdeali's son expects his coke literally as cold as frozen, every glass of sherbet he drinks has to have chunks of ice in it. in fact at the amil's thaal 1-2 crates of assorted drinks have to be stationed so that they are not lacking in any variety. the amil's thaal with his son and his crony of shaikhs has to have the biggest and choicest portions, second and third helpings, even special dishes made for them which are only served in his thaal and to no one else. its pitiable seeing the way our servile abdes behave. its we who have spoilt them and its we, who as bhai insaf has mentioned, can put them in their place.
aapke yeh aamil kabhi mil jaayenge toh jitna unho nein khaaya hain, sab... you know kya karenge :mrgreen:

think
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Re: Traitors of Islam

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Unread post by think » Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:12 am

Al Zulfiqar wrote:welcome id99 to the forum. hope you will be around for a long time.

everyone knows that our clergy and all clergy love being put up on a pedestal, pampered and glorified, treated like VIP's and the higher their rank, the more arrogance and holier-than-thou attitude they display.

in every jamaat, the amil and his family act as if they are way above the hoi-polloi. their thaal has to be different, their crockery, cutlery, their safra and kundli everything has to be different and superior. a well-trained chamcha waits for them alone with folded hands, ready to obey their every wish, at their beck and call. bhai thandu lavo, bhai limbu lavo, biji murghi, tiji icecream, biryani ma extra gosht lavo, phalanu ane dhiknu lavo etc. garmi ghani chee, ek moto fan lagado and so on. as a volunteer i have seen panic in the kitchens when the amil or his wife has to be served or some special demand is made. the way the slaves scramble, as if they will be skinned alive if they incur the amil's wrath. they are served in an air-conditioned room, the amil has to have a special bichanu and pillows for his delicate back, his wife acts like a delicate fairy.

the amil's sons and daughters bark out their orders as if the host is an idiot. when i was a volunteer in poona jamaat, the tyrant amil abdeali's son expects his coke literally as cold as frozen, every glass of sherbet he drinks has to have chunks of ice in it. in fact at the amil's thaal 1-2 crates of assorted drinks have to be stationed so that they are not lacking in any variety. the amil's thaal with his son and his crony of shaikhs has to have the biggest and choicest portions, second and third helpings, even special dishes made for them which are only served in his thaal and to no one else. its pitiable seeing the way our servile abdes behave. its we who have spoilt them and its we, who as bhai insaf has mentioned, can put them in their place.
This is so true

seeker110
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Re: Traitors of Islam

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Unread post by seeker110 » Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:27 pm

They all look like suffering from gluttony. Ton of white garb just hides there ugly bodies. Imagine them in genes and T-shirts. All the Noorani Cherah will disappear and the truth will be visible. Just a bunch of fat pigs. What happens when one walks on carpet alone, never a dirt pathway.

id99
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Re: Traitors of Islam

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Unread post by id99 » Sat Mar 23, 2013 4:09 pm

Thank you all for liking my post!!

I would appreciate if we use our energies in the right direction rather than abusing and cursing our own people. Bring a change against the system by not violating the rules but by slowly bringing in change within us. The best sort Gandhian way is non-participation or non-conformation to the local Jamaats. Make sure your voice is heard and be united in your own little way. Its much easier said than being done but there have been such instances where the Kotharis had to give into the demand of people. Of course not much publicized by the masses but it certainly has happened in Ratlam during the recent visit of Sayedi Muffadal Bhai Saab Saifuddin.

Most so called reformist do not confirm to the basics of Islam like Namaaz, Zakaat and not involving in Haraam (Moharammat). Just a reminder, we are fighting against the system created to control our liberties not against an individual or Islam as a whole. I urge every member in this forum to teach their children everything about Islam and most importantly moral values, which is lacking in South Asian/ African Education system. Our corrupt societies are because we lack moral values within us. Bribe/Bakshish/Salaam/Rishwat are all accepted in general by most of our community not only within the society but even in our daily lives. Some time we teach our kids how to bribe our way out of a situation in life. Its high time we should all stop all this.

There are only a few certain issues in the community that bother us, lets fight toward eradicating that and convert ourselves into a modern community which is forward looking.

seeker110
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Re: Traitors of Islam

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Unread post by seeker110 » Sat Mar 23, 2013 4:31 pm

Whenever I am around Bhora friends I usually come up with same question, as to why would anyone give his hard earned money to a rich guy who is better off than them financially, at the same time supporting the evil ways of kothar. If you still feel like giving away money give it to a charity or buy food for the needy. At least you wont feel bad after the money is exchanged. Here is a simple experiment, throw a five or ten dollar bill where a kid (poor area school) will find it. Now there is a happy story for someones life.

ghulam muhammed
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Re: Traitors of Islam

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Unread post by ghulam muhammed » Sat Mar 23, 2013 6:00 pm

seeker110 wrote:Whenever I am around Bhora friends I usually come up with same question, as to why would anyone give his hard earned money to a rich guy who is better off than them financially, at the same time supporting the evil ways of kothar.
This is the sad part of every religion ! Be it Asaram Bapu, Swami Nityanand or Sathya Sai Baba, people are well aware of the enormous wealth these conmen horde but they still fall in their trap. Its more of the lure of promises made by mortals whom they trust more then the Divine being whom they "claim" to believe in but in their subconscious mind always have doubts. Its also the pomp and glitter surrounding them and their mass propaganda such as the mojizas experienced by either some known entity (which in all likelihood could be their hired ones) or many a times people with fake identities.